Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 Mod Warning: Post #7871

keane2097

No

brinty wrote: »

Dunno why Vermaelen is not playing at Arsenal and seems to be on the way out

It's because Mert and Koscielny are the best CB pair in the EPL. Vermaelen is very overrated thanks to scoring a few goals in his first season. Arsenal were better with Djourou playing CB than they were with Vermaelen for about a season and a half.

bangkok

just a quick question based on man city last night.... if you had the choice....

IMO

Hart - de gea.............de gea
zabaleta-rafael...........zabaleta
Evra-clichy................Evra
Demachilis-rio............Rio
Kompany-Vidic...........oooooooohhhhh tough one but I'll go vidic
Navas-Mata...............Mata
Toure-Who cares........Toure
Fernandinho-fellaini....Fernandinho
Kolorav-Januzaj.........januzaj
RVP-Negrado.............RVP
Rooney-Silva.............ROONEY

7 utd 4 city

tallaghtmick

No

bangkok wrote: »

just a quick question based on man city last night.... if you had the choice....

IMO

Hart - de gea.............de gea
zabaleta-rafael...........zabaleta
Evra-clichy................Evra
Demachilis-rio............Rio
Kompany-Vidic...........oooooooohhhhh tough one but I'll go vidic
Navas-Mata...............Mata
Toure-Who cares........Toure
Fernandinho-fellaini....Fernandinho
Kolorav-Januzaj.........januzaj
RVP-Negrado.............RVP
Rooney-Silva.............ROONEY

7 utd 4 city

Just an honest question.....but what age are you?

TheDoc

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

My worry would be the fact our form is deteriorating over the last few weeks; we are getting worse, not better. So the idea we could somehow get past the quarters is one that doesn't even register for me. As much chance we will sign Messi and win the league...

What I'm sure most managers, be it our next opponents in the league, or the champions league especially, are worried about is when it finally snaps. The infamous "backlash". Oddly enough something the club has done down the years, hit a vein of poor form, bad result, then boom, Absolutely lash someone out of it.

Obviously this year has been pretty unprecedented in the length of bad form, or lack of any form, but you'd hope at some point something clicks, and we just give someone a lashing. Not in score line, just in a dominating performance.

If it was to happen, while it would be great at any stage, you'd nearly get sily and wish it to happen in a really tough tie in the Champions League

For the record, I'm very confident about the Olympiakos game regardless of league form. It will hopefully be an extract for the squad and team to remove the woes of premier league football and focus on one tie.

Great opportunity to get into the next round, should really take advantage.

bangkok

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Just an honest question.....but what age are you?

which players would you go for?? like I said in the beginning....IMO..........

bullvine

No

Kompany is the best defender in the league if not on the planet..

LostBoy101

No

brinty wrote: »

Course we can dream but get your facts straight, Mata can't play CL and Januzaj is an 18 year old kid..

You can't win anything with kids they said :rolleyes:

Your Airbag

bangkok wrote: »

just a quick question based on man city last night.... if you had the choice....

IMO

Hart - de gea.............de gea
zabaleta-rafael...........zabaleta
Evra-clichy................Evra
Demachilis-rio............Rio
Kompany-Vidic...........oooooooohhhhh tough one but I'll go vidic
Navas-Mata...............Mata
Toure-Who cares........Toure
Fernandinho-fellaini....Fernandinho
Kolorav-Januzaj.........januzaj
RVP-Negrado.............RVP
Rooney-Silva.............ROONEY

7 utd 4 city

U wot m8?

KH25

No

bullvine wrote: »

Kompany is the best defender in the league if not on the planet..

And Negredo is on fire this season. Absolute tank of a man.

bangkok

Your Airbag wrote: »

U wot m8?

everyday of the week, evra is much more complete player, Didier Deschamps would agree with me on that as well...

bullvine

No

in fairness though Rio is better than Demechelis .......

bullvine

No

bangkok wrote: »

everyday of the week, evra is much more complete player, Didier Deschamps would agree with me on that as well...

Hard to argue with that

tallaghtmick

No

bangkok wrote: »

which players would you go for?? like I said in the beginning....IMO..........

Well im not 10 so I wont be answering that but seriously what age are you?

thelad95

No

bullvine wrote: »

in fairness though Rio is better than Demechelis .......

I thought demichelis was actually solid enough last night and had no option but to take messi down. Even at that though he was clearly City's worst player.

bangkok

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Well im not 10 so I wont be answering that but seriously what age are you?

doesn't matter if im 5 or 55, I have an opinion on football.......

astonaidan

bangkok wrote: »

just a quick question based on man city last night.... if you had the choice....

IMO

Hart - de gea.............de gea (Draw)
zabaleta-rafael...........zabaleta (Zabaleta)
Evra-clichy................Evra (Clichy, not even close this season tbh)
Demachilis-rio............Rio (Rio)
Kompany-Vidic...........oooooooohhhhh tough one but I'll go vidic (Well this is just wrong Kompany is up there with Silva as the best)
Navas-Mata...............Mata (Mata)
Toure-Who cares........Toure (Toure)
Fernandinho-fellaini....Fernandinho (Fernandinho)
Kolorav-Januzaj.........januzaj (Not sure why you didnt put Adnan against Silva so I will, Silva)
RVP-Negrado.............RVP (RVP)
Rooney-Silva.............ROONEY (He is really against Kun Aguero, so Kun Aguero)

7 utd 4 city

So its more like 7.5 City, 3.5 united some off your choices are baffling

tallaghtmick

No

bangkok wrote: »

doesn't matter if im 5 or 55, I have an opinion on football.......

So im guessing 15 or something, your "opinions" are typical of school ground "banter" Whats it been twice now you have tried asking us to get into a pointless debate over players or players turning manager :rolleyes:

Mitch Connor

No

astonaidan wrote: »

So its more like 7.5 City, 3.5 united some off your choices are baffling

He said it was based off last nights team.

bangkok

Mitch Connor wrote: »

He said it was based off last nights team.

thank you.

bangkok

astonaidan wrote: »

So its more like 7.5 City, 3.5 united some off your choices are baffling

also clichy over evra?? clichy has only played 12 games this season, evra has over 30 and is the current French left back

Your Airbag

bangkok wrote: »

everyday of the week, evra is much more complete player, Didier Deschamps would agree with me on that as well...

Evra used to be miles ahead of him, no question, but Evra has dropped off so much this season people are asking for Buttner to start ahead of him.

Evra is living off his reputation and Deschamps picking doesn't mean a whole lot tbh.

Evra is a liability and has individually cost us, at a minimum, 4 points this season. Clichy is no world beater but I rather see him, Valencia, Lindegard or ever your nan play instead of Evra.

Cue Evra going into some great form. You'll all know who to thank when he does.

keane2097

No

bangkok wrote: »

just a quick question based on man city last night.... if you had the choice....

IMO

...

Evra-clichy................Evra

...

Kompany-Vidic...........oooooooohhhhh tough one but I'll go vidic

....

bangkok

anyone who wants buttner to play over evra.............:eek::eek::eek::eek:
evra is still one of our main creator of chances....

Mikeyt086

No

bangkok wrote: »

also clichy over evra?? clichy has only played 12 games this season, evra has over 30 and is the current French left back

Clichy's missus over Evra. Have you been paying attention?

Actually, never mind. I'll be on twitter until this all blows over.

weldoninhio

Mitch Connor wrote: »

He said it was based off last nights team.

Its one of the most ridiculous comparisons I've ever seen.

Spanish Johnny

brinty wrote: »

Lads been think this one over for a few days
What would ye think of picking up Vermaelen and C-Ashley this summer for the defence??
Dunno why Vermaelen is not playing at Arsenal and seems to be on the way out
C-Ashley available on a free
Are they worth a cheeky bid/offer??

Just from an Arsenal perspective the reason he isn't playing is obviously because of Mertesacker and Koscielny but also because Vermaelen makes a lot of mistakes.

He is our Club captain and admire his blood and thunder style, goal scoring, etc but the reality is you first and foremost want your defenders to defend.

I think his goalscoring and last ditch tackles glossed over a lot of his frailties (was making those tackles due to his own mistakes most of the time).

Good player - glad we have him as backup but don't think he would be a significant upgrade on Evans, Smalling or Jones.

That said if you want to throw us another 20 million we'l have a think about it.:P

Hank Scorpio

No

bangkok wrote: »

anyone who wants buttner to play over evra.............:eek::eek::eek::eek:
evra is still one of our main creator of chances....

You haven't got a long lost brother called Man City 10 have you?

Both players aren't up to being first choice

Backstreet Moyes

bangkok wrote: »

anyone who wants buttner to play over evra.............:eek::eek::eek::eek:
evra is still one of our main creator of chances....

He creates much more for the opposition than he does for United.

bucketybuck

No

thelad95 wrote: »

I thought demichelis was actually solid enough last night and had no option but to take messi down.

Hijack: His biggest mistake was not taking Messi down straight away, the two paces taken then meant it was a penalty and red card instead of a freekick and red card.

sReq | uTeK

bangkok wrote: »

Haha I have been involved and played football, still playing now for the last 20 years I think I know what I'm talking about

Quote of the century...Moyes is a premier league manager even he doesn't know what it's about, steady on.

sReq | uTeK

bucketybuck wrote: »

Hijack: His biggest mistake was not taking Messi down straight away, the two paces taken then meant it was a penalty and red card instead of a freekick and red card.

He was getting sent off even of he takes him down right away, either way off and a free..... 40 minutes with 10 against 11. Or hope the player misses/scores and continue with 11.

Mind you he played well up to that.

bangkok

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Quote of the century...Moyes is a premier league manager even he doesn't know what it's about, steady on.

ridiculous statement, of course moyes knows what its about. didn't he manage a good everton team for 10 years in the prem league and highlighted straight away a need for a world class midfielder in the summer when he joined

The_Kew_Tour

No

When is this mid term break over?

Never heard of that type of thing back in my day:pac:

How Soon Is Now

No

Yous can be such a patronizing bunch of ****s in here at times ya know that :pac:

The_Kew_Tour

No

Dani Alves:pac::pac:

"I didn’t realise until about five years ago that Manchester had two teams. Of course Manchester United have been one of the most famous and successful clubs in Europe for many years – but I thought they were the only one."

astonaidan

bangkok wrote: »

also clichy over evra?? clichy has only played 12 games this season, evra has over 30 and is the current French left back

Being the current french left back means nothing tbh, if there is one team talent isnt the main factor its France. RVP has played feck all this year but you still rated him higher than Negredo.

Vinz Mesrine

"playing for the last 20 years", there is no way a 25+ year old posts like that

BloodBath

No

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

He was getting sent off even of he takes him down right away, either way off and a free..... 40 minutes with 10 against 11. Or hope the player misses/scores and continue with 11.

Mind you he played well up to that.

I said at the start of the game himself and Lescott were the weak links in that team and it showed. Hart is suspect as well. If any team puts pressure on those 3 they will make big mistakes.

Demichelis had a reasonable game but he's always liable to do something stupid. If you're going to take a man down as the last man it better be for a free kick and preferably late in the game otherwise it's not worth it.

kryogen

not one i fancy to score

kryogen

kryogen wrote: »

not one i fancy to score

Sorry for the off topic, was just in this thread when the Arsenal got the penalty

Dunno what it is about Ozil, just never imagine him as a penalty taker, I see him as a little bit gutless even though thats a bit too strong for what I mean.

You could also see how uncomfortable he was going to take it, why do they let/make players who are not confident take penalties?

Huge moment

/off topic

Rayne Wooney

Want Arsenal to go through, if Bayern go out it's anyone's to win

Your Airbag

Januzaj rejects chance to play for Kosovo. I wonder will he declare for England.

Ravel Morrison has gone to QPR on a 93 day loan deal.

Headshot

No

Jan should know better and stay well clear of England

weldoninhio

Your Airbag wrote: »

Januzaj rejects chance to play for Kosovo. I wonder will he declare for England.

Ravel Morrison has gone to QPR on a 93 day loan deal.

He cant play for England!!! They have an agreement where none of the UK teams (Scotland/Wales/England) can't naturalise players. Same way Rangel couldn't play for Wales and Arteta and Almunia could never play for England.

Mikeyt086

No

Your Airbag wrote: »

Januzaj rejects chance to play for Kosovo. I wonder will he declare for England.

I expect him to play for Albania due to his Dad, but wouldn't be surprised to see him declare for Belgium as he spent most of his life there and had most of his footballing education there.

Timmyctc

No

Tony Mutha****ing Kroos

ARsenal game.

Hows Bankok getting on? Ive been avoiding the thread during the midterm

grames_bond

Timmyctc wrote: »

Tony Mutha****ing Kroos

ARsenal game.

Yeah - should be easy for us to buy him alright! :pac:

Crann na Beatha

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Paul Tergat

Phoenix wrote: »

Would Januzaj get into Belgiums team for this coming WC?

I dont think he has done enough. I assume hes fighting with Mirallas who has been really good this season

Your Airbag

Kroos bossing it tonight. There is an interesting theory about him floating around too

A summer move away from Bayern might seem more likely if true.