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Swansea sack Laudrup

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  • #152
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    In British English, a journeyman is a player who has represented many different clubs over his career.

    That would be the common understanding in regards to Soccer anyways.


  • #153
    geeky
    Registered Users Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    At the risk of completely derailinget the thread, a bit of historical context explains why some refer to journeymen to indicate a lack of quality.

    Under the medieval guild system, a master in a skilled trade would train up an apprentice who, in theory, would eventually become a master (after completing his masterpiece to impress guild high-ups). But not everyone had the patience to stick around working for room and board until they became a master, or the skill to produce their masterpiece. So, these trained apprentices would work elsewhere, doing perfectly acceptable work without reaching the standard of the masters.

    These guys would often travel to wherever work was, leading to the name 'journeyman'. As a result, the term can apply both to players who've had lots of clubs and pros who've had a decent career without ever being player of the year.

    Tangent over!


  • #154
    Pro. F
    Registered Users Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    Lukker- wrote: »
    That would be the common understanding in regards to Soccer anyways.

    But an incorrect understanding based on the confusion caused by the word "journey" in journeyman.


  • #155
    Pro. F
    Registered Users Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    geeky wrote: »
    At the risk of completely derailinget the thread, a bit of historical context explains why some refer to journeymen to indicate a lack of quality.

    Under the medieval guild system, a master in a skilled trade would train up an apprentice who, in theory, would eventually become a master (after completing his masterpiece to impress guild high-ups). But not everyone had the patience to stick around working for room and board until they became a master, or the skill to produce their masterpiece. So, these trained apprentices would work elsewhere, doing perfectly acceptable work without reaching the standard of the masters.

    These guys would often travel to wherever work was, leading to the name 'journeyman'. As a result, the term can apply both to players who've had lots of clubs and pros who've had a decent career without ever being player of the year.

    Tangent over!

    Nope. That use of the word "journey" relates to being paid by the day, not to travelling. The Oxford Dictionary definition here.


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