ULSU elections rumours 2014

jonny_bravo

Any chance of the 'aul SU "click" being broken up this year and let a newcomer with new ideas into the gang I wonder? Seems like the same old names keep popping up year after year and nothing "new" ever being passed?

Russellynx

Clique yeah

Popoutman

jonny_bravo wrote: »

Any chance of the 'aul SU "click" being broken up this year and let a newcomer with new ideas into the gang I wonder? Seems like the same old names keep popping up year after year and nothing "new" ever being passed?

That's funny - of the 5 positions in the current crew, 3 were brand new SU officers. Their only previous SU interactions would have been as members of C&S committees looking after their own club/soc members.

What more do you want? I'll happily take someone that actually cares about the students and what can be done for them, as shown by the likes of Emma and Caitriona.

Jester252

Popoutman wrote: »

That's funny - of the 5 positions in the current crew, 3 were brand new SU officers. Their only previous SU interactions would have been as members of C&S committees looking after their own club/soc members.

What more do you want? I'll happily take someone that actually cares about the students and what can be done for them, as shown by the likes of Emma and Caitriona.

Well Emma and Caitriona aren't outsiders to the SU.
Both also had a massive advantage over outside people

wnolan1992

Jester252 wrote: »

Well Emma and Caitriona aren't outsiders to the SU.
Both also had a massive advantage over outside people

That's never going to change. The majority of votes come from people who are engaged with the SU/C&S. Those people are obviously going to vote for a known quantity, someone they've had dealings with in the past, someone they know cares about the Union based on their previous engagement as opposed to a wild candidate appearing in the clearing and saying "Vote for me!".

The only way it could ever change is if more people who have no dealings with the SU or C&S vote than those that do, and that's never likely to happen tbh.

jonny_bravo

What more do I want? Well I'd like the greater population of ul to be recognized, I'd like someone who goes up and out of their way to communicate with the people outside of those associated with the previously stated clique, I'd like someone new with absolutely no connection with the present ulsu team.

For someone like myself' and a vast majority of the studemt body who hasn't a real interest in the political stance of the ulsu elections, it seems as if the positions are somewhat bias in terms of who runs what year and who they are in association with... I know myself from being a 'class rep' that the su team in general aren't the friendliest bunch to approach if you are the ordinary lad or an outsider. A lot of them like to blow their own trumpets rather make a substantial change for the better.

Cadroc

jonny_bravo wrote: »

What more do I want? Well I'd like the greater population of ul to be recognized, I'd like someone who goes up and out of their way to communicate with the people outside of those associated with the previously stated clique, I'd like someone new with absolutely no connection with the present ulsu team.

For someone like myself' and a vast majority of the studemt body who hasn't a real interest in the political stance of the ulsu elections, it seems as if the positions are somewhat bias in terms of who runs what year and who they are in association with... I know myself from being a 'class rep' that the su team in general aren't the friendliest bunch to approach if you are the ordinary lad or an outsider. A lot of them like to blow their own trumpets rather make a substantial change for the better.

Which of the current Sabbats are you talking about? In my experience they're all very open to someone who shows an interest.

I'd prefer to have a sabbat who would actually do their job, rather than going getting thrown out of the stables.

As for the 'who runs what year and who they are associated with'.. That holds some merit. Three of the four sabbats are Kayakers.

Jester252

wnolan1992 wrote: »

That's never going to change. The majority of votes come from people who are engaged with the SU/C&S. Those people are obviously going to vote for a known quantity, someone they've had dealings with in the past, someone they know cares about the Union based on their previous engagement as opposed to a wild candidate appearing in the clearing and saying "Vote for me!".

The only way it could ever change is if more people who have no dealings with the SU or C&S vote than those that do, and that's never likely to happen tbh.

I have no doubt that it won't it change, I was just pointing out to another poster that the sabats are far from new to the SU. The Kayak club is a power player in ULSU politics.

Russellynx

You've got my vote jonnie

Reiver

Cadroc wrote: »

As for the 'who runs what year and who they are associated with'.. That holds some merit. Three of the four sabbats are Kayakers.

Its the usual way of things though isn't it? You nearly always get someone who was either involved in C/S or Class Reps or An Focal or something. They like being involved and giving something back. Generally when someone just wanders in off the radar, they don't get through (that fella Gallery for example running for president)

Kayakers are one of the biggest clubs on campus, requires a lot of work for them to run but they seem to be successful (IVs a 5th time won in a row this year!). So the fact people like Lily and Catriona go on isn't too much of a surprise.

Russellynx

How many colleges take kayaking seriously though? One , two?

Chavways

Russellynx wrote: »

How many colleges take kayaking seriously though? One , two?

There's at least 8 colleges that are in the running each year. 14 colleges take part in total. The Kayak Club won the IV's this year by a very very small margin.

Russellynx

how many colleges take it seriously was the question, e.g. just galway and ul have a proper kayak club the rest are just people on the piss

jonny_bravo

Cadroc wrote: »

I'd prefer to have a sabbat who would actually do their job, rather than going getting thrown out of the stables.

I don't know who you might be referring to there but as for professionalism, I can't say paddy rockett is completely free from acting the tool in terms of maturity on the job.

Also I don't think it is fair to mix someone's personal life with their profession. People are free to do what they like on their free time but whether they make the right decisions in light of their roles is another debate...

Chavways

Russellynx wrote: »

how many colleges take it seriously was the question, e.g. just galway and ul have a proper kayak club the rest are just people on the piss

As well as DCU, DIT, Trinity, UCC, UCD and Maynooth....

Reiver

Russellynx wrote: »

how many colleges take it seriously was the question, e.g. just galway and ul have a proper kayak club the rest are just people on the piss

You sound like some watchdog from the ICU, clubs just aren't about competing. Irrespective of their competition, running a club still takes a lot of effort and voluntary work from people, they're a large club and they do a lot for their members.

Do we have any concrete names of people running?

Russellynx

yeah i think wright, kilsaran, cemex are concrete names for sure

Reiver

Good to know we'll have some quality supplies for building that new student centre. A building is only as strong as its foundation.

marblepaper

Cathal has my vote for PSU. Shame about Emma Porter, I think they did a great job this year. Are the others seeking re-election ? ? ? Any certainties though ? I need to inform myself before I vote.

Cadroc

President
Tommy Bolger
Lorna Bogue
Tríona O'Sullivan
Mark Nother
Brian Stewart

Welfare
Darragh Roche
Carol Hennessey

Education
Adam Moursey
Mike Forde

PSU
Cathal Ronan
Tony Sheridan

That list is a mixture of rumours I've heard and names from this page. I'd like to see Ginge run for PSU, he'd do a great job and is well liked in the C&S. Well respected.

I don't know much about most of the names rumoured. Does anyone have any info on them?

Cadroc

President
Tommy Bolger
Lorna Bogue
Tríona O'Sullivan
Mark Nother
Brian Stewart

Welfare
Darragh Roche
Carol Hennessey

Education
Adam Moursey
Mike Forde

PSU
Cathal Ronan
Tony Sheridan

That list is a mixture of rumours I've heard and names from this page. I'd like to see Ginge run for PSU, he'd do a great job and is well liked in the C&S. Well respected.

I don't know much about most of the names rumoured. Does anyone have any info on them?

Gael23

Triona O Sullivan and Lorna Bogue are the two real contenders for president from that list. If she does stand, Triona will give Lorna a run for her money.

Russellynx

i want ring side seats for that cat fight.

NewShoes

Cadroc wrote: »

President
Tommy Bolger
Lorna Bogue
Tríona O'Sullivan
Mark Nother
Brian Stewart

Welfare
Darragh Roche
Carol Hennessey

Education
Adam Moursey
Mike Forde

PSU
Cathal Ronan
Tony Sheridan

That list is a mixture of rumours I've heard and names from this page. I'd like to see Ginge run for PSU, he'd do a great job and is well liked in the C&S. Well respected.

I don't know much about most of the names rumoured. Does anyone have any info on them?

I'd seriously doubt that Adam would run for something in the Union again, he left it last year, and hasn't been involved that much this year, and having spoken to Darragh, I know he isn't running!!!

Jester252

I would be surprised if Tríona is running. Also does anybody know when Lorna Bogue was the editor of An Focal?

NewShoes

Jester252 wrote: »

I would be surprised if Tríona is running. Also does anybody know when Lorna Bogue was the editor of An Focal?

I'd be inclined to agree with you about Triona, but with all the rumors every year, and she did return to Student Council this year...
Lorna was editor for An Focal the first year after the Comms Officer was removed, last year I think?

Reiver

Tríona would be a strong contender. How many members of the International society are there? Shes very well known around the Union etc as well. Be interesting to see if she goes for it.

NewShoes

Reiver wrote: »

Tríona would be a strong contender. How many members of the International society are there? Shes very well known around the Union etc as well. Be interesting to see if she goes for it.

Nearly 1000 members I think?

Jester252

Reiver wrote: »

Tríona would be a strong contender. How many members of the International society are there? Shes very well known around the Union etc as well. Be interesting to see if she goes for it.

Do study abroad/Erasmus students get a vote? If they do Triona, if she runs, would already have a juggernaut of support before the campaign begins

Reiver

Yep. They've been able to vote the last few years anyways. And I think because the way the enrolment is done, the ones from last semester also can vote if necessary. All thats needed is motivating them to do so.

But yeah, that does amount up to ALOT of votes before E-DAY!