Farming Chit Chat sallies Fourth

Brown Podzol

.Kovu. wrote: »

What if you have your ground planted

She'd have no cows to milk and be off spending all the time. Short answer, no cows and no wife.:D

Sam Kade

I rang a very smart woman today about maiden heifers she had advertised on the paper. The conversation went something like this
Me: how many have you for sale?
Woman: how many do you want?
Me: it depends on the price, how much are you looking for them?
Woman: how much would you pay for them?
Me: around 650
Woman: huh! Actually we can't sell them we must have a herd test first, goodbye

What was that all about? Surely if you are selling anything you must be prepared to answer questions and give some information about what you have for sale.
Anyway if you by some chance you are reading this you just got rid of a perspective buyer and I would have been prepared to pay more if they were suitable.

Reggie.

Sam Kade wrote: »

I rang a very smart woman today about maiden heifers she had advertised on the paper. The conversation went something like this
Me: how many have you for sale?
Woman: how many do you want?
Me: it depends on the price, how much are you looking for them?
Woman: how much would you pay for them?
Me: around 650
Woman: huh! Actually we can't sell them we must have a herd test first, goodbye

What was that all about? Surely if you are selling anything you must be prepared to answer questions and give some information about what you have for sale.
Anyway if you by some chance you are reading this you just got rid of a perspective buyer and I would have been prepared to pay more if they were suitable.

You ll always have people like that

_Brian

Charliebull wrote: »

where would a man go to get a look at them there maps you refer to Brian

_Brian wrote: »

When I'm back at the laptop I'll post a link to the article I was using.

Here's the link I was using.. Now I haven't had time to read though all of the paper but the maps give good giudance.

http://www.teagasc.ie/publications/2011/823/Trace_Elements.pdf

Maybe there are better more detailed maps out there but this one showed what I was looking for so I didn't search any further.

Greengrass1

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

It is not rocket science placing a water trough in the middle of the field is an answer to a lot of these issue, but most drystock and older farmers would have a hearth attack. Put a few posts beside it and fence to them this allows a field to become 4 paddocks.

Most dairy farmers forget that they supplement early and late in the season so it is a factor on turnout date. The biggest factor I see is resistance to reseeding by drystock farmers

Yep that's the biggest prob. One neighbour my father would be fairly friendly with and would be talking most week. I told him I'd spray off an acre for him and spread the fert and post emerged spray on it for nothing just so he would see the difference in the grass. His land is in top nick so I suggested DD.
Nope no go

_Brian

_Brian wrote: »

Here's the link I was using.. Now I haven't had time to read though all of the paper but the maps give good giudance.

http://www.teagasc.ie/publications/2011/823/Trace_Elements.pdf

Maybe there are better more detailed maps out there but this one showed what I was looking for so I didn't search any further.

Was just reading through the detail and interestingly soil with high Iron (Fe) content also suppresses copper (Cu) uptake, many or even most of our field drains both old and new would run orange with rust from the Iron deposits in the soil..

Reggie.

_Brian wrote: »

Was just reading through the detail and interestingly soil with high Iron (Fe) content also suppresses copper (Cu) uptake, many or even most of our field drains both old and new would run orange with rust from the Iron deposits in the soil..

We are the same

Base price

Reggie. wrote: »

We are the same

We are the same here. We automatically give copper to everything whether they are showing signs of deficiency or not.

rangler1

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Yep that's the biggest prob. One neighbour my father would be fairly friendly with and would be talking most week. I told him I'd spray off an acre for him and spread the fert and post emerged spray on it for nothing just so he would see the difference in the grass. His land is in top nick so I suggested DD.
Nope no go

You're judging it in a dairy situation, is it worth the difference in the profit margin in a sheep/cattle situation, probably cost the profit of eighty ewes to reseed 10% of my land every year.....sounds like a busy fool scenario here

Greengrass1

rangler1 wrote: »

You're judging it in a dairy situation, is it worth the difference in the profit margin in a sheep/cattle situation, probably cost the profit of eighty ewes to reseed 10% of my land every year.....sounds like a busy fool scenario here

Would you not be able to carry more ewes and get better lamb growth?

freedominacup

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Would you not be able to carry more ewes and get better lamb growth?

Cue rangler, "ah, ahem, ah, ah, cough, ah.....ah";)

rangler1

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Would you not be able to carry more ewes and get better lamb growth?

Can you guarantee that, lamb thrive is very fickle...... any way the question was, is the difference in margin worthwhile

Farmer Pudsey

rangler1 wrote: »

You're judging it in a dairy situation, is it worth the difference in the profit margin in a sheep/cattle situation, probably cost the profit of eighty ewes to reseed 10% of my land every year.....sounds like a busy fool scenario here

Reseeding is not as expensive as farmers make out, DD costs about 150/acre including seed. Sheep are better to maintain grassland than cattle and are less fickle than cattle. You be able to stock at a higher rate, have better quality silage, have earlier grass I see that at present I have grass a 3-4 weeks earlier than old pasture. IMO it is generally cost neutral. At these sums would it be the profit on two ewes for one year, I expect that you could stock another ewe/acre and still have lambs finished 10 days earlier.

The biggest issue would be what to do with grass at end of year.

jt65

Ok lads and lassies , any body in the Mid West Region or indeed willing to travel,

2 up coming events well worth attending


Next Sunday Limerick Classic Car will put on a fantastic display at Limerick Racecourse > Adm is just €5 and all profits after expenses will go to charity

http://www.limerick-classic-car-club.com/page3.htm
,

Then on June 8th , the pink ribbon walk in the Killaloe area , I will taking part sporting my pink bra, so that reason alone is enough to attend.

http://www.pinkribbonwalk.ie/

thanks for reading please spread the word.

Kovu

Every year I put our own bred heifers to the same land with my dad, every year there are no problems.

This year we bought in three as shown in pics thread. One of them managed () to find a nailed plank to walk on.
Very very glad I bought heifers that are quiet, managed to halter her in the paltry bit of a crush and pull a 2 1/2 inch rusty nail out of her foot.

Tomorrow, walk the land.

Again.

whelan2

.Kovu. wrote: »

Every year I put our own bred heifers to the same land with my dad, every year there are no problems.

This year we bought in three as shown in pics thread. One of them managed () to find a nailed plank to walk on.
Very very glad I bought heifers that are quiet, managed to halter her in the paltry bit of a crush and pull a 2 1/2 inch rusty nail out of her foot.

Tomorrow, walk the land.

Again.

is she covered for tetanus? we lost a smashing heifer a few years ago when she got a nail in her foot:cool:

knockmulliner

.Kovu. wrote: »

Every year I put our own bred heifers to the same land with my dad, every year there are no problems.

This year we bought in three as shown in pics thread. One of them managed () to find a nailed plank to walk on.
Very very glad I bought heifers that are quiet, managed to halter her in the paltry bit of a crush and pull a 2 1/2 inch rusty nail out of her foot.

Tomorrow, walk the land.

Again.

I would also give her a shot of antibiotics to cover her for infection penstrepe or such.

whelan2

got a text of a positive, can i get another tag and retest it that way or does it have to be blooded?

dzer2

whelan2 wrote: »

got a text of a positive, can i get another tag and retest it that way or does it have to be blooded?

Got one last yr so put him to one side for the knacker feed him away expected him to die after all that was said he made it to factory weight at 10 months 850 euro. Its not all its cracked up to be

whelan2

dzer2 wrote: »

Got one last yr so put him to one side for the knacker feed him away expected him to die after all that was said he made it to factory weight at 10 months 850 euro. Its not all its cracked up to be

i am in year 3 of the scheme, had 1 positive early on in the scheme. Thought i was clear .

kake

dzer2 wrote: »

Got one last yr so put him to one side for the knacker feed him away expected him to die after all that was said he made it to factory weight at 10 months 850 euro. Its not all its cracked up to be

A client of ours had 1 last year too. Isolated him from the rest of the herd and fed him. Got €800 for him at 12 months.

But . . . .


He had 7 PI's this year out of 20 cows.

All cows have been button tagged and all are clear. It's quite possible that he transferred the disease himself on his clothes, wellingtons, meal buckets etc.

It's just not worth the chance! You risk the health of your own herd and worse than that you risk the health of other farms that you may come in contact with!

mahoney_j

whelan2 wrote: »

got a text of a positive, can i get another tag and retest it that way or does it have to be blooded?

Whelan I'd blood test him as it's a different test tested in a different lab.could just be a false positive.also get mother and any other descendants of calf tested.this happend neighbour of mine earlier in spring and did as I outline above and all clear.obviously isolate calf immediately

Genghis Cant

dzer2 wrote: »

Got one last yr so put him to one side for the knacker feed him away expected him to die after all that was said he made it to factory weight at 10 months 850 euro. Its not all its cracked up to be

What's the point in me and many like me shooting a positive calf if everyone else aint?
Either we want to eradicate BVD or we don't.
It's a joke that it's not compulsory.

A cow called Daisy

whelan2 wrote: »

i am in year 3 of the scheme, had 1 positive early on in the scheme. Thought i was clear .

In third year of scheme as well. Had first positive as well. Calf and mother blood tested. Cow ok, calf positive and sent to knackery.
Never vaccinated at any stage. So should I
1. Cull cow?
2. Vaccinate all, and if so, when? And is date a.i. starts significant

tanko

A cow called Daisy wrote: »

In third year of scheme as well. Had first positive as well. Calf and mother blood tested. Cow ok, calf positive and sent to knackery.
Never vaccinated at any stage. So should I
1. Cull cow?
2. Vaccinate all, and if so, when? And is date a.i. starts significant

I'd keep the cow if the blood test is negative for her, she just came into contact with BVD while she was pregnant.
Ask your vet about vaccinating but I would if I was you, breeding animals need to be protected from all the BVD virus being spewed out from positive animals which are being "fattened" all over the country.
It is better if you complete vaccinations before ai starts but this isn't always possible.

whelan2

A cow called Daisy wrote: »

In third year of scheme as well. Had first positive as well. Calf and mother blood tested. Cow ok, calf positive and sent to knackery.
Never vaccinated at any stage. So should I
1. Cull cow?
2. Vaccinate all, and if so, when? And is date a.i. starts significant

we never vaccinated here. Will see what comes up on retest. This cow is a 3rd calver, so her 2 previous calves would have been tested .

Kovu

knockmulliner wrote: »

I would also give her a shot of antibiotics to cover her for infection penstrepe or such.

Ya, we gave her a shot of betamox as well, not covered for tet though so we'll be watching her close the next few days.

whelan2

.Kovu. wrote: »

Ya, we gave her a shot of betamox as well, not covered for tet though so we'll be watching her close the next few days.

we had a neighbouring farmer who would only throw a pallet in a gap rather than fencing it. The end result was loads of rotten pallets in gaps that broke down. Disaster . Heifer stood on one of these and died of tetanus:mad::(

on the river

whelan2 wrote: »

we had a neighbouring farmer who would only throw a pallet in a gap rather than fencing it. The end result was loads of rotten pallets in gaps that broke down. Disaster . Heifer stood on one of these and died of tetanus:mad::(

ya lazy farmer beside me also. wont do any fencing only throwing pallets and branches into gaps. somethings just never change. :mad:

whelan2

ahi rang me there, telling me to isolate and retest etc. I was saying its strange as i am in year 3 of the scheme etc, she said another farmer had a positive one today also , it was the final calf to finish off his 3 years in the scheme:eek:

A cow called Daisy

whelan2 wrote: »

ahi rang me there, telling me to isolate and retest etc. I was saying its strange as i am in year 3 of the scheme etc, she said another farmer had a positive one today also , it was the final calf to finish off his 3 years in the scheme:eek:

That is very unfortunate. And I for one am not a sceptical person:rolleyes:

whelan2

we got 2 -female- pot bellied pigs today. Would they drink milk?

_Brian

whelan2 wrote: »

we got 2 -female- pot bellied pigs today. Would they drink milk?

Damn sure they would - make pigs of themselves

whelan2

_Brian wrote: »

Damn sure they would - make pigs of themselves

cool got them for nothing off my toyboy friend:D:D they kept breaking out on the road from his house will post a pic later

_Brian

whelan2 wrote: »

cool got them for nothing off my toyboy friend:D:D they kept breaking out on the road from his house will post a pic later

Onions, lemons and oranges.
They seem happy to eat anything only these three things.

Genghis Cant

whelan2 wrote: »

cool got them for nothing off my toyboy friend:D:D

So............. Your Toyboy porked ya?:D

Butcher Boy

whelan2 wrote: »

cool got them for nothing off my toyboy friend:D:D they kept breaking out on the road from his house will post a pic later

can you put up a picture of the pigs as well.:D:D

Genghis Cant

Butcher Boy wrote: »

can you put up a picture of the pigs as well.:D:D

There's one up already in the photo thread.

Charliebull

Genghis Cant wrote: »

There's one up already in the photo thread.

yea the one on the left is the toyboy

Charliebull

A cow called Daisy wrote: »

That is very unfortunate. And I for one am not a sceptical person:rolleyes:

yes i for one am glad my last cow has turned up empty so

A cow called Daisy

whelan2 wrote: »

we got 2 -female- pot bellied pigs today. Would they drink milk?

_Brian wrote: »

Onions, lemons and oranges.
They seem happy to eat anything only these three things.

They great with apple............sauce!

Have you named them yet. Call them after some of the posters that here on boards. Have few ideas but maybe see what their 'personality' is like first.

And let us know who you decide to call them after:)

Reggie.

A cow called Daisy wrote: »

They great with apple............sauce!

Have you named them yet. Call them after some of the posters that here on boards. Have few ideas but maybe see what their 'personality' is like first.

And let us know who you decide to call them after:)

Bet she calls one after me

td5man

Reggie. wrote: »

Bet she calls one after me

Breakfast & dinner.

Kovu

Reggie. wrote: »

Bet she calls one after me

Tweedledum & Tweedledee or Humpty & Dumpty.

Galtee & Denny

Actually that reminds me. I once kept a spider I found and named him Galtee.

Damo810

.Kovu. wrote: »

Tweedledum & Tweedledee or Humpty & Dumpty.

Galtee & Denny

Actually that reminds me. I once kept a spider I found and named him Galtee.

Did ya ever name that limo heifer?

Kovu

Damo810 wrote: »

Did ya ever name that limo heifer?

Jesus what did I call her again. Jinx I think it was, with our herd name before that. (I'm not telling ye that, you'd be all turning up at my house for tay!!:D)

moy83

.Kovu. wrote: »

Jesus what did I call her again. Jinx I think it was, with our herd name before that. (I'm not telling ye that, you'd be all turning up at my house for tay!!:D)

And pate

_Brian

whelan2 wrote: »

cool got them for nothing off my toyboy friend:D:D they kept breaking out on the road from his house will post a pic later

Just wondering.
Will ye keep them on as pets or can they be eaten ??

whelan2

_Brian wrote: »

Just wondering.
Will ye keep them on as pets or can they be eaten ??

i dunno, is it pot bellied pigs you have?

_Brian

whelan2 wrote: »

i dunno, is it pot bellied pigs you have?

Nope,
Ours are Glosticure Old Spot crossed with a Max Grow Boar, bred for the table.