Farming Chit Chat sallies Fourth

farmersfriend

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Burn shield? Ye mother put that on it. Did a great job

Where would ye be without the mammies!

Greengrass1

farmersfriend wrote: »

Where would ye be without the mammies!

I know. Would be lost without mine

Nekarsulm

farmersfriend wrote: »

Where would ye be without the mammies!

Anyone remember their Mammies putting "Gentian Violet" on burns?

C0N0R

.Kovu. wrote: »

Did anyone else in the border counties express an interest in the Social Farming Across Borders? Got an application form this morning in the post, meetings in Fermanagh though so it would be far enough away.

Tell me more?? Is it closed for people now?

Kovu

C0N0R wrote: »

Tell me more?? Is it closed for people now?

I put my name down to keep up with info on it a good while back.
Website here may be of more use to you than me trying to explain it!

It's not closed yet, they're taking applicants, or so the website says.

whelan2

on the river wrote: »

Turn your device off and on again and check your Internet connection

still happening running malaware now on it

Oldtree

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Anyone have a good cure for a bad burn? After burning the whole palm of my hand. Grapped a piped that had just been welded without thinking

Get to a doctor or A&E, if there isn't much pain then the burn may be very deep, ie the nerves are shot. On your way to the doctor or A&E, use grease (butter, marg) for a dry burn (you use water for a steam burn!)

Oldtree

_Brian wrote: »

There's a great burn gel that you get in the chemists.. forget its name, in a smallish white bottle... Takes the heat out and seals it over so the burn heals quickly...

Is that Flamazine? it is no longer reccomended.

onyerbikepat

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Anyone have a good cure for a bad burn? After burning the whole palm of my hand. Grapped a piped that had just been welded without thinking

Aloe Vera plant. Just break the leaves and rub the juice onto the burns. I've a relative that keeps a plant just for burns.
I've done that too with welded parts. You feel stupid for doing it, but you learn teh hard way.

Greengrass1

Oldtree wrote: »

Get to a doctor or A&E, if there isn't much pain then the burn may be very deep, ie the nerves are shot. On your way to the doctor or A&E, use grease (butter, marg) for a dry burn (you use water for a steam burn!)

Ah I wouldnt go to A&E unless I will as half dead. Grand now once the burn ointment did its job. Still a good sting in it

on the river

whelan2 wrote: »

still happening running malaware now on it

Could be a virus
Did you update your virus protection

Zr105

_Brian wrote: »

There's a great burn gel that you get in the chemists.. forget its name, in a smallish white bottle... Takes the heat out and seals it over so the burn heals quickly...

If it's the one I'm thinking of its just called cool gel, the description matches anyways, its good stuff, but as others have said an aloe Vera plant is a great yoke!

sea12

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Ah I wouldnt go to A&E unless I will as half dead. Grand now once the burn ointment did its job. Still a good sting in it

Sore dose gg. We've all done it. Some heat off the hand still I'd say.

Greengrass1

sea12 wrote: »

Sore dose gg. We've all done it. Some heat off the hand still I'd say.

Yep. The burn shield helped a lot. Hard to milk alright

Oldtree

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Ah I wouldnt go to A&E unless I will as half dead. Grand now once the burn ointment did its job. Still a good sting in it

Still and all you need your hand and if its a bad burn the nerves could go...... the ointment may only be killing the pain as against a cure. Could always ask the pharmasist what they think. Or indeed ask mammy (anyones) she will set you straight.

sea12

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Yep. The burn shield helped a lot. Hard to milk alright

Still ok to type though!


Smiley face

Oldtree

on the river wrote: »

Could be a virus
Did you update your virus protection

I use norton but even with that you need to be careful, all kinds of nasties in everything these days.

Greengrass1

sea12 wrote: »

Still ok to type though!


Smiley face

Ye I'm using my index finger.........takes ages. I'm like an oul fella ha

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

i am sure you will find it easy enough:rolleyes:

Ah

Reggie.

_Brian wrote: »

There's a great burn gel that you get in the chemists.. forget its name, in a smallish white bottle... Takes the heat out and seals it over so the burn heals quickly...

Medicare burnshield hydrogel

Base price

.Kovu. wrote: »

I put my name down to keep up with info on it a good while back.
Website here may be of more use to you than me trying to explain it!

It's not closed yet, they're taking applicants, or so the website says.

I think that it is a good initiative for those who can gear themselves towards it as in, prepared for the responsibility and commitment. I know one of the farmers involved in the pilot scheme.

Kovu

Base price wrote: »

I think that it is a good initiative for those who can gear themselves towards it as in, prepared for the responsibility and commitment. I know one of the farmers involved in the pilot scheme.

I'd be interested in the meetings for 12 weeks but they're just so far away from me! How have they found it so far do you know? Have they had to make any changes around the yard etc?

visatorro

after taking peanut better down outta the press and spread on toast, lovely. best before dec 2013! gf wants to throw it out. i reckon there is that many chemicals in it, it should never go off!!

Reggie.

visatorro wrote: »

after taking peanut better down outta the press and spread on toast, lovely. best before dec 2013! gf wants to throw it out. i reckon there is that many chemicals in it, it should never go off!!

Same argument the whole time in my house

Base price

.Kovu. wrote: »

I'd be interested in the meetings for 12 weeks but they're just so far away from me! How have they found it so far do you know? Have they had to make any changes around the yard etc?

PM sent.

Kovu

Base price wrote: »

PM sent.

Hope you sent it to the right .Kovu. :eek:

There's another poster with the same name but with no '.'s' surroundng the name. Think I may have to change again as it does cause confusion!

Base price

Anyone else having a problem with tags recently. We normally have to replace a few every year (5 or 6) mostly in older cattle but seldom in calves. We had the outdoor calves in for dosing & copper yesterday and I now have to apply for 17 tags :eek:. Only one of the calves had a torn ear the rest have a hole but no tag.

whelan2

Base price wrote: »

Anyone else having a problem with tags recently. We normally have to replace a few every year (5 or 6) mostly in older cattle but seldom in calves. We had the outdoor calves in for dosing & copper yesterday and I now have to apply for 17 tags :eek:. Only one of the calves had a torn ear the rest have a hole but no tag.

is it the bvd tags they are losing, i think they replace them for free

Genghis Cant

Base price wrote: »

Anyone else having a problem with tags recently. We normally have to replace a few every year (5 or 6) mostly in older cattle but seldom in calves. We had the outdoor calves in for dosing & copper yesterday and I now have to apply for 17 tags :eek:. Only one of the calves had a torn ear the rest have a hole but no tag.

Yeah, similar story here, I was remarking the other day that its nearly all right ear tag that's missing. Why ever that would be the case.

GrandSoftDay

Genghis Cant wrote: »

Yeah, similar story here, I was remarking the other day that its nearly all right ear tag that's missing. Why ever that would be the case.

Heard a fella in the vets last week saying the same thing, said it was all the Bvd tags that were falling out. Haven't noticed any great difference here though.

Base price

I did not notice if there were more on the right or left ears. To be honest, since I am out of the breeding scene, I only twigged the white and black buttons sometime in February and the reason for same :eek:
Put it down to been too busy and feck all time to read the journal etc.
I remember when the yellow tags were first introduced (with the four letter prefix for each herd) a good gust of wind would blow them out.
Seems like history is repeating itself

Kovu

Base price wrote: »

I did not notice if there were more on the right or left ears. To be honest, since I am out of the breeding scene, I only twigged the white and black buttons sometime in February and the reason for same :eek:
Put it down to been too busy and feck all time to read the journal etc.
I remember when the yellow tags were first introduced (with the four letter prefix for each herd) a good gust of wind would blow them out.
Seems like history is repeating itself

96/97 wasn't it?
I only remember it was around then as I bought my very first suck calf that year in Carrigallen. Bought because her tag said 3D at the bottom. Wasn't too pushed with colour or quality at that age then!:o:D

GrandSoftDay

.Kovu. wrote: »

96/97 wasn't it?
I only remember it was around then as I bought my very first suck calf that year in Carrigallen. Bought because her tag said 3D at the bottom. Wasn't too pushed with colour or quality at that age then!:o:D

Still have a 49p and 71w here. Their days are numbered now though I'm afraid.

Base price

.Kovu. wrote: »

96/97 wasn't it?
I only remember it was around then as I bought my very first suck calf that year in Carrigallen. Bought because her tag said 3D at the bottom. Wasn't too pushed with colour or quality at that age then!:o:D

Yes, I think you are about on the mark. I have the old herd registers in a filing cabinet in the attic but don't have a ladder to gain access.

@ GSD - Last Autumn I helped a elderly local farmer to update the medicine section of his herd book due to a Dept inspection. He had all the receipts but they were not written up in the book. He had suckler cows in their late teens and twenties with brass tags.
His oldest cow was a shorthorn cross cow that was 24 years of age. She never failed to calf and gave him 3 sets of twins.

A cow called Daisy

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

Still have a 49p and 71w here. Their days are numbered now though I'm afraid.

Neighbours wife has a 40 DD........

Reggie.

A cow called Daisy wrote: »

Neighbours wife has a 40 DD........

Steady....

GrandSoftDay

A cow called Daisy wrote: »

Neighbours wife has a 40 DD........

That's an awful weight to be carrying around!

Reggie.

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

That's an awful weight to be carrying around!

Imagine the back pain

Damo810

A cow called Daisy wrote: »

Neighbours wife has a 40 DD........

That must be some sight coming down the road!

Base price

Steady on there lads - I think ye are losing the run of yourselves and getting over excited.
No offence to you lads but most of us farming ladies have handled more then most of ye could ever dream of.
Life and all .......

Oldtree

Base price wrote: »

Steady on there lads - I think ye are losing the run of yourselves and getting over excited.
No offence to you lads but most of us farming ladies have handled more then most of ye could ever dream of.
Life and all .......

:D:D

whelan2

seriously the angleberry thread is closed. This place is unreal :mad:. My suggestion of what we did was done after vets telling us to do so worked for us

Rovi

whelan2 wrote: »

seriously the angleberry thread is closed. This place is unreal :mad:. My suggestion of what we did was done after vets telling us to do so worked for us

The 'veterinary advice' thing causes us mods considerable grief from time to time.
That thread was an excellent example.
This stuff has now come to the attention of the site owners/administrators, and the whole thing (the asking for/giving of veterinary advice) is now under review.
The general site rules explicitly state that the giving/requesting of medical or professional advice is prohibited:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/faq.php?faq=bie_faq_guidelines#faq_bie_faq_guidelines_medicalpro
We've been running under the radar here in F&F for a long time regarding this sort of thing, but it's now being looked at at a much higher pay grade than us forum mods.
The question being posed is does veterinary advice fall under the medical/professional rule?
We must remember that the vast majority of the membership of this site, and by extension, the site owners and administrators, are NOT farmers or closely involved with the industry.
To their eyes, it's a no-brainer that veterinary stuff is of course medical/professional, and that it should be very carefully watched and stringintly moderated.

We forum mods are arguing that farmers and stock keepers are 'professional' and 'competent' in their own right, and that the discussion of veterinary matters is perfectly acceptable within that context.

Some of the stuff in that Angleberries thread didn't do 'our' side of the discussion much good

moy83

Rovi wrote: »

The 'veterinary advice' thing causes us mods considerable grief from time to time.
That thread was an excellent example.
This stuff has now come to the attention of the site owners/administrators, and the whole thing (the asking for/giving of veterinary advice) is now under review.
The general site rules explicitly state that the giving/requesting of medical or professional advice is prohibited:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/faq.php?faq=bie_faq_guidelines#faq_bie_faq_guidelines_medicalpro
We've been running under the radar here in F&F for a long time regarding this sort of thing, but it's now being looked at at a much higher pay grade than us forum mods.
The question being posed is does veterinary advice fall under the medical/professional rule?
We must remember that the vast majority of the membership of this site, and by extension, the site owners and administrators, are NOT farmers or closely involved with the industry.
To their eyes, it's a no-brainer that veterinary stuff is of course medical/professional, and that it should be very carefully watched and stringintly moderated.

We forum mods are arguing that farmers and stock keepers are 'professional' and 'competent' in their own right, and that the discussion of veterinary matters is perfectly acceptable within that context.

Some of the stuff in that Angleberries thread didn't do 'our' side of the discussion much good

Thats fair enough Rovi , probably doesn't do farmers reputation much good either if joe public reads some of those remedies

whelan2

Rovi wrote: »

The 'veterinary advice' thing causes us mods considerable grief from time to time.
That thread was an excellent example.
This stuff has now come to the attention of the site owners/administrators, and the whole thing (the asking for/giving of veterinary advice) is now under review.
The general site rules explicitly state that the giving/requesting of medical or professional advice is prohibited:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/faq.php?faq=bie_faq_guidelines#faq_bie_faq_guidelines_medicalpro
We've been running under the radar here in F&F for a long time regarding this sort of thing, but it's now being looked at at a much higher pay grade than us forum mods.
The question being posed is does veterinary advice fall under the medical/professional rule?
We must remember that the vast majority of the membership of this site, and by extension, the site owners and administrators, are NOT farmers or closely involved with the industry.
To their eyes, it's a no-brainer that veterinary stuff is of course medical/professional, and that it should be very carefully watched and stringintly moderated.

We forum mods are arguing that farmers and stock keepers are 'professional' and 'competent' in their own right, and that the discussion of veterinary matters is perfectly acceptable within that context.

Some of the stuff in that Angleberries thread didn't do 'our' side of the discussion much good

while i well understand that alot of people -myself included- come on here to ask other peoples opinions of various health issues of animals, its great to hear other peoples experiences/treatments and outcomes of various ailments& conditions. I know i for one have learnt a lot of things from asking such questions or reading other peoples thoughts on animal health. So is this not allowed any more?

Rovi

whelan2 wrote: »

while i well understand that alot of people -myself included- come on here to ask other peoples opinions of various health issues of animals, its great to hear other peoples experiences/treatments and outcomes of various ailments& conditions. I know i for one have learnt a lot of things from asking such questions or reading other peoples thoughts on animal health. So is this not allowed any more?

It is allowed, but we must tread very carefully pending a decision from the site admins on the whole thing.

We forum mods are suggesting a general guideline along the lines of: "Would you do it with a Department of Agriculture Veterinary Inspector watching you, or would you write it down in your Veterinary Remedies Record?"
If it doesn't pass that test, it's probably not suitable for public publication here.

whelan2

Rovi wrote: »

It is allowed, but we must tread very carefully pending a decision from the site admins on the whole thing.

We forum mods are suggesting a general guideline along the lines of: "Would you do it with a Department of Agriculture Veterinary Inspector watching you, or would you write it down in your Veterinary Remedies Record?"
If it doesn't pass that test, it's probably not suitable for public publication here.

yes i totally understand that. In fairness most people do go by that thinking on here

_Brian

I'd say this is always going to be a contentious issue. Many of Joe Public wouldn't be best impressed if they seen animals being treated using legitimate methods, never mind some of the alternative methods mentioned from time to time.
We could always restrict access to the forum, aren't some others access by request only.

Then Joe Public wouldn't wander in accidentally while were dehorning calves or curing angle berries and get themselves all queezy.

whelan2

Reggie. wrote: »

Imagine the back pain

ah you get used to it:o

Rovi

whelan2 wrote: »

In fairness most people do go by that thinking on here

Absolutely!
'Most' people are perfectly sensible and post away using common sense and discretion.

However, some people appear to think that this place is exactly the same as having a private chat with their like-minded colleagues, where they can natter away about stuff that they'd never speak of in the presence of strangers or persons in positions of authority/officialdom.
The reality, as most of us know and understand, is that this place is composed almost entirely of 'strangers', with a fair smattering of Official Ireland, the media, and who knows who else listening in.