Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 Mod warning post#7005

5starpool

Dickerty wrote: »

I dunno - we got rid of a lot of expensive players, so the only guys on serious money are Suarez and Stevie (and the latter will drop off in the next 2 seasons), and next tier of Johnson, Sturridge, Agger and Lucas,
whereas City and Chelsea probably have 5/6 players paid at that top level. If FFP has ANY basis, we should be able to complete on wages based on great commercial revenue and better TV/PL placement money, and CL money to begin from next season too!

I think we can defo afford 2 more big name, big money players...

Agueroooo wrote: »

I don't think we will be shopping in the bargain basement nor do I think we will be trying to buy the elite type players either.

my guess is we will continue with the similar type targets as before (Costa, Mkhitaryan, Kono) but now with the ability of actually landing them.

I really do not have a problem with that as our scouting has been very impressive of late.

Just imagine if we had landed Costa .

I agree with most of what Agueroooo says there. We have the ability to compete for really good players who would command 60-100k per week in wages, at least initially. FFP doesn't magically mean that we will be lsoing the run of ourselves. While revenue next season should be significantly higher than this season (it'll be 2 years before those figures are out though), we won't lose the run of ourselves in terms of wages. While just about ok in FFP terms, we still had hefty losses in the last couple of quarters, so 1 CL qualification will not mean we spend 80 on transfer fees and increase our wage bill by a large chunk.

Bandana boy

Grayditch wrote: »

It's probably a good thing I can't find a score predictor/league calculator thingamajig, or I'd jinx the absolute ****e out of us.

http://www.the-mustard.com/predictor.html

5starpool

djPSB wrote: »

I think we can afford it but the Board won't offer players ridiculous money and they are kind of right in a way.

Just because you pay a player 300k per week, it doesn't mean he'll perform. I would to see the likes of Sturridge offered a deal like what Rooney was given.

Suarez is different, his performances are almost guaranteed.

What? you want us to pay Sturridge 15m a season? That's crazy talk. I can see him getting a bump in the summer with a new deal, but it won't be near the Suarez money, never mind Rooney.

djPSB

5starpool wrote: »

What? you want us to pay Sturridge 15m a season? That's crazy talk. I can see him getting a bump in the summer with a new deal, but it won't be near the Suarez money, never mind Rooney.

Apologies typo. Definetley not.

wicorthered

The Cardiff game aint on normal TV stations, where's a good place in Dublin to catch the game?

K-9

Agueroooo wrote: »

I don't think we will be shopping in the bargain basement nor do I think we will be trying to buy the elite type players either.

my guess is we will continue with the similar type targets as before (Costa, Mkhitaryan, Kono) but now with the ability of actually landing them.

I really do not have a problem with that as our scouting has been very impressive of late.

Just imagine if we had landed Costa .

That's a good description.

If when we are in competition with Spurs for a player we'll have CL to offer, plus hopefully more money to offer on wages with CL money and commercial deals.

Having said that FSG will be prudent, they aren't going to offer 150k a week to 3/4 players. They'll know keeping CL football will require investment, but no point spending everything in the one shop!

If Chelsea decide to Willian us, there isn't a hell of a lot we can do.

8-10 wrote: »

Suarez would have been tearing it up in La Liga instead of him

Hadn't Henry come out with his statement at that stage?

barone

question. would ye change our front two for anyone else ? bar messi/ronaldo

not saying there the best strikers in the world,but as a twosome they are awesome and scare defences ****less .. possibly one of the best partnerships in world football today,on this seasons form

Kess73

barone wrote: »

question. would ye change our front two for anyone else ? bar messi/ronaldo

not saying there the best strikers in the world,but as a twosome they are awesome and scare defences ****less .. possibly one of the best partnerships in world football today,on this seasons form

On this season's form there is nobody at all I would have in place of them.

Speak Now

wicorthered wrote: »

The Cardiff game aint on normal TV stations, where's a good place in Dublin to catch the game?

Its on Setanta yeah?

Blondie919

barone wrote: »

question. would ye change our front two for anyone else ? bar messi/ronaldo

not saying there the best strikers in the world,but as a twosome they are awesome and scare defences ****less .. possibly one of the best partnerships in world football today,on this seasons form

If it ain't broke don't fix it!!

mooseknunkle

wicorthered wrote: »

The Cardiff game aint on normal TV stations, where's a good place in Dublin to catch the game?

Its on Setanta @ 14:30

8-10

K-9 wrote: »

Hadn't Henry come out with his statement at that stage?

Very possibly, I just feel it looked a lot like contingency planning. He's a pretty similar player to be fair.

mike65

barone wrote: »

question. would ye change our front two for anyone else ? bar messi/ronaldo

not saying there the best strikers in the world,but as a twosome they are awesome and scare defences ****less .. possibly one of the best partnerships in world football today,on this seasons form

hard to know if changing them would work - Zlatan + Costa for example might sound good but could be a mis-match.

The only thing I do know is that Liverpool would not have enough money to buy a better combination of existing star strikers, the club would still get out bid for the absolute top level names.

Knex*

wicorthered wrote: »

The Cardiff game aint on normal TV stations, where's a good place in Dublin to catch the game?

Sinnotts or the Woolshed.

8-10

mike65 wrote: »

hard to know if changing them would work - Zlatan + Costa for example might sound good but could be a mis-match.

The only thing I do know is that Liverpool would not have enough money to buy a better combination of existing star strikers, the club would still get out bid for the absolute top level names.

I'd love to see either Zlatan or Aguero next to Suarez but it's not going to happen at Liverpool

klose

Id say the team still needs a decent bit of surgery in the summer, moses and cissokho will return to their parent clubs which leaves us with

gks

Mignotlet
Reina
Jones

defenders

Agger
Skrtel
Sakho
Toure
Coates
Illori
Johnson
Flanno
Kelly
Enrique
Wisdom
Robinson

midfielders

Gerrard
Allen
Hendo
Lucas
Coutinho
Alberto

attackers

Suarez
Sturridge
Sterling
Borini
Aspas
Ibe
Suso
Teixiera
Assaidi

if we get champions league well need some first team quality coming in. On the goalkeeper side, reina will be sold, jones needs upgrading but can remain 3rd choice, so reina out and hopefully a young quality keeper comes in but that will be a hard task.
We are bloated on centre halfs, coates will assumably be sold. Its hard to know what will happen with agger/skrtel. Toure will probably be periphary at best and illori assumably becomes 4th choice. Full back remians a problem, enrique is m.i.a, robinsons ship has probably sailed. Flanno is doing superb but i would still like to see a starting eleven quality lb come in. Right back is a head scratcher, johnson could easily be gone in the summer, kelly is probably off too and wisdom although doing well on loan is still young and raw. Again, we probably need a starting quality rb to come in.
Midfield is very light for a team that prefers 3 in the middle, atleast one quality, if not two midfielders need to be brought in.
Attack is good, assaidi will be sold probably and one of aspas/borini will probably be off too. I still think a winger would be nice e.g kono/shaqiri. Younger plays could be loaned out.

I guess id be happy with a back up gk a full back who can play lb/rb e.g montoya whod go for feck all a quality midfielder and another attacker. I think 4 players in of quality would be good going.

Kunkka

We definitely need to add to our midfield to increase squad depth. We've been very unlucky with injuries with our back 4 this year but I'm happy enough with who we have. Maybe some cover with a flexible left/right back would be nice to have. Up front we can't complain with the goal tally but I'd try to sign someone young with heaps of potential who won't mind being rotated. I don't think Aspas is at the level we are going to be playing at in the CL but I'm open to change my mind when he has been with us a little longer but I have to be honest nothing I have seen has warranted keeping him.

gafferino

Mamadou Sakho is under no illusions about the size of the challenge facing him upon his return to full fitness, but it is a test that the French defender is keen to embrace in Liverpool's final nine games

"Two-and-a-half months is a long time to be out and it was tough. It took much longer than we thought but I had to listen to my body.

"Initially we thought it was the muscle in my hamstring but it turned out to be the tendon which was causing the problem and that took more time to heal. I worked really closely with the medical staff to get back.

"It will be difficult to get back in the team because everyone is playing well, but at a big club like Liverpool you expect competition for places.

"Things are never easy in football. I am working hard and I am ready for when the manager needs me. There are still nine games to play and a lot to play for. I also need to win my place in the France squad for the World Cup."

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/159431-i-m-ready-for-when-the-boss-needs-me

djPSB

Knex. wrote: »

Sinnotts or the Woolshed.

Was in Woolshed for United game.

Excellent place to watch a match. You'll never walk alone was going by the end of the game.

gafferino

Smicer coming back for the 'Celebration of the 96' next month. Really liked him, seemed like a nice fella too.

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/159452-smicer-it-s-been-nine-years-too-long

oh...and he did this...............

Nuri Sahin

I'd be gutted for Sakho if he missed out on the World Cup after his heroic performance vs Ukraine in the Playoffs. His leadership and ability/potential were on full show that day.

edit - Saul would be upset because he wants to see him and Matuidi dance again.

Dickerty

klose wrote: »

Id say the team still needs a decent bit of surgery in the summer, moses and cissokho will return to their parent clubs which leaves us with

gks

Mignolet - IN
Reina - OUT
Jones - OUT
NEW BACKUP KEEPER NEEDED

defenders

Agger - IN
Skrtel - IN
Sakho - IN
Toure - IN
Coates - OUT
Illori - IN
Johnson - IN (on new lower deal)
Flanno - IN
Kelly - OUT
Enrique - IN
Wisdom - IN
Robinson - PL LOAN
NEW LB NEEDED, MAY MEAN MOVING ON ENRIQUE

midfielders

Gerrard - IN
Allen - IN
Hendo - IN
Lucas - IN
Coutinho - IN
Alberto - IN (NOT SURE A LOAN WOULD BENEFIT MUCH)
NOT ENOUGH COVER HERE, 1 DEFENSIVE AND 1 ATTACKING MINDED CM

attackers

Suarez - IN
Sturridge - IN
Sterling - IN
Borini - IN
Aspas - OUT
Ibe - PL LOAN
Suso - IN
Teixiera - LOAN
Assaidi - OUT
ATTACKING MINDED CM MAY BE THE NEW ATTACKER, WITH BORINI AS BACKUP STRIKER

So I make that 1 FB, 2 midfielders and 1 attacked. Moreno, M'Vila, Dzagoev, Muriel?

brevity

"Your not terrible Muriel"

http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/19/liverpool-line-up-17million-deal-for-top-transfer-target-luis-muriel-4657800/

Grayditch

brevity wrote: »

"Your not terrible Muriel"

I lolled.

billy2012

brevity wrote: »

"Your not terrible Muriel"

http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/19/liverpool-line-up-17million-deal-for-top-transfer-target-luis-muriel-4657800/

Yes please!!!!

Dickerty

Grayditch wrote: »

I lolled.

Me too!

"Goodbye, Porpoise Spit!"

billy2012

Good ol Kolo

Thud

Dickerty wrote: »

Just thinking again - we can be in the market for the best players again!
I was so sick of saying "They won't come to us" due to no CL, and a general lack of competitiveness.

So if someone like Kroos, Shaqiri, Hulk, Witzel, and freebies like Montoya or Menez, we are absolutely in the conversation...

other side of the coin..
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/370513/EXCLUSIVE-Manchester-United-rocked-as-PSG-star-Edinson-Cavani-rejects-Old-Trafford-move

barone wrote: »

question. would ye change our front two for anyone else ? bar messi/ronaldo

not saying there the best strikers in the world,but as a twosome they are awesome and scare defences ****less .. possibly one of the best partnerships in world football today,on this seasons form

Cavani would make a nice back up

BoardsMember

If Hulk comes to Liverpool I will not watch a game until he leaves, live/recorded/highlights, whatever. He's absolute muck.

LuckyLloyd

BoardsMember wrote: »

If Hulk comes to Liverpool I will not watch a game until he leaves, live/recorded/highlights, whatever. He's absolute muck.

He's not muck. He's been a 1 in 2 forward for a while now. He's overpaid currently, but there is a bundle of talent there.

Bandana boy

BoardsMember wrote: »

If Hulk comes to Liverpool I will not watch a game until he leaves, live/recorded/highlights, whatever. He's absolute muck.

I heard somewhere that he is incredible

the incredible pudding

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

He's been a 1 in 2 forward for a while now.

We only deal with 1 in 1 forwards now

careca

gafferino wrote: »

Smicer coming back for the 'Celebration of the 96' next month. Really liked him, seemed like a nice fella too.

Yep, liked him too, reckon I was the only one of my mates who did, all the rest thought he was ****

His last minute volley (winner) against Chelsea was special too.

BoardsMember

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

He's not muck. He's been a 1 in 2 forward for a while now. He's overpaid currently, but there is a bundle of talent there.

Any time I have seen him he has been muck. All power, no technique or subtlety. It'd be like signing Heskey again. We're better than that, we play better football, we dont want to go back to that.

Nuri Sahin

There's only one Zenit player I'd love to see us sign, and it ain't Hulk.

Nuri Sahin

BoardsMember wrote: »

Any time I have seen him he has been muck. All power, no technique or subtlety. It'd be like signing Heskey again. We're better than that, we play better football, we dont want to go back to that.

I've given Hulk a lot of stick over the years (and he usually responds by being average for the most part at best.. then scoring an absolute worldie like he has done against Liverpool or Dortmund -_-), but that's very harsh.

Kunkka

BoardsMember wrote: »

It'd be like signing Heskey again.

So what's your point?

We need this deal done tomorrow.

Agent Coulson

BoardsMember wrote: »

If Hulk comes to Liverpool I will not watch a game until he leaves, live/recorded/highlights, whatever. He's absolute muck.

But he is already here

hefferboi

Witsel would have me creaming pant.

hefferboi

How have I only seen this now!? This is brilliant. You need to watch both!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsj35KUZeos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xorebi86XOY

Nuri Sahin

hefferboi wrote: »

Witsel would have me creaming pant.

Was excellent last night, unsurprisingly.

Francie Barrett

I reckon the four below are definitely gone.

Reina is definitely gone. Those bridges have been burned a long time ago and there's no point going over it.
Coates will almost certainly be out the door too. Apparently he's a month away from being fit, so hopefully he can get game time in Uruguay, get a World Cup spot and impress there so we can get something back for him.
Robinson - I get the feeling that Rodgers lost patience with him after that game against Oldham awhile back. Also, if he was truly wanted, I think he would have signed a contract by now (transfermarkt says his contract expires in the Summer).
Assaidi has been a bit-part player at Stoke and hasn't exactly been racking up goals/assists. There are too many players ahead of him now.

There's a few who I have no idea about.

If Alberto wasn't a Rodgers signing, I would say he was almost definitely out the door at the end of the season. If a player is delivering (Suarez or Sturridge), then who cares if they aren't tracking back. But for a player like Alberto, who hasn't delivered, you just cannot excuse his lack of work rate, tracking back and determination. The fact he isn't even making the matchday squad these days suggests that he isn't performing in training either.

Aspas at least is still in the matchday squads, and getting a few token minutes.

Borini - will he be content to warm the bench? (assuming we bring in another big signing like Konoplyanka)

Kelly is one we don't seem to speak about at all anymore. By all accounts, he is back and fully fit. Right now though, it just looks like there is no place for him even as a squad player.

gafferino

Is there a presser today?

hefferboi

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Was excellent last night, unsurprisingly.

He was excellent against us last year too. Dominated midfield.

NabyLadistheman

BoardsMember wrote: »

If Hulk comes to Liverpool I will not watch a game until he leaves, live/recorded/highlights, whatever. He's absolute muck.

Christ.

Dickerty

hefferboi wrote: »

Witsel would have me creaming pant.

Sounds like a side order with your Sunday carvery - "Marrowfats? Creamed pant?"

Francie Barrett

I don't know why people get their knickers in a twist over a player who we have just about no chance in getting.

Might as well just be done with it and start demanding that we put a bid in for Messi.

Cartman78

Bandana boy wrote: »

I heard somewhere that he is incredible

He has a fierce temper as well....you won't like him when he's angry

5starpool

gafferino wrote: »

Is there a presser today?

Should have been one earlier alright, but I didn't see anything about it yet.

Grayditch

Cartman78 wrote: »

He has a fierce temper as well....you won't like him when he's angry

We'd see a few of these for him in the stands:




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