Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 Mod warning post#7005

LuckyLloyd

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I think Houillers reign/sacking should be looked on differently. At that time Liverpool could financially compete with everyone bar United. At this stage we're miles behind City, Chelsea and even United. CL should give us a bit more power but until we sort out our stadium we'll need to over-perform.

We are in the top 10 clubs in the world in terms of revenue generation as it stands. We can compete.

Houllier gave us ~6 great years. He got us qualified for the CL at the end of season two while also winning three comps. He got to 2nd in the league and CL QFs the next year. Then we had two years of 4th place finishes; early European exits and a League Cup. And everyone was happy to upgrade.

The same will be true for Rodgers. Eventually you need to consistently win smaller victories (domestic cups / CL qualification) or at least challenge for the big boy comps (2nd in the league / CL semis or better) or people will grow tired (and the former won't save you in of itself in the long long run).

Read the Arsenal thread. They are unhappy and many want Wenger gone despite the extraordinary consistency of his reign.

MD1990

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

We are in the top 10 clubs in the world in terms of revenue generation as it stands. We can compete.

Houllier gave us ~6 great years. He got us qualified for the CL at the end of season two while also winning three comps. He got to 2nd in the league and CL QFs the next year. Then we had two years of 4th place finishes; early European exits and a League Cup. And everyone was happy to upgrade.

The same will be true for Rodgers. Eventually you need to consistently win smaller victories (domestic cups / CL qualification) or at least challenge for the big boy comps (2nd in the league / CL semis or better) or people will grow tired (and the former won't save you in of itself in the long long run).

Read the Arsenal thread. They are unhappy and many want Wenger gone despite the extraordinary consistency of his reign.

Houllier's football was terrible to watch & very defensive
Rodgers style of play is much better but but will probably be harder to do as well in Europe unless we sign a top class CB like Benatia

Nuri Sahin

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Stitch half a Liverpool and half a pats jersey together .

Half jersey wanker? :pac:

gimli2112 wrote: »

@ Nuri

I think we won the CL despite Harry not because of him.

To be fair I really thought we had turned a corner when we signed Kewell, shame it never worked out. Always remember it was him that won the header that led to Mellor's wonder strike against Arsenal to beat them in the last minute.

For sure. Like you and I'm sure many here too, signing Kewell was going to really take us to the next level I believed. To be fair to him, before that first injury he was the player we had all seen at Leeds tear it up week in and week out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-7VRaP5p4Q

gafferino

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

We are in the top 10 clubs in the world in terms of revenue generation as it stands. We can compete.

Houllier gave us ~6 great years. He got us qualified for the CL at the end of season two while also winning three comps. He got to 2nd in the league and CL QFs the next year. Then we had two years of 4th place finishes; early European exits and a League Cup. And everyone was happy to upgrade.

The same will be true for Rodgers. Eventually you need to consistently win smaller victories (domestic cups / CL qualification) or at least challenge for the big boy comps (2nd in the league / CL semis or better) or people will grow tired (and the former won't save you in of itself in the long long run).

Read the Arsenal thread. They are unhappy and many want Wenger gone despite the extraordinary consistency of his reign.

We are down to 12th now. It really is a two tier rich list now with the top 6-7 generating significantly more than the rest. We can compete...ish. We need consistent CL.

ush

gafferino wrote: »

I agree, we need to be winning things.

Yes. EPL and CL.

Chucky the tree

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

We are in the top 10 clubs in the world in terms of revenue generation as it stands. We can compete.

Houllier gave us ~6 great years. He got us qualified for the CL at the end of season two while also winning three comps. He got to 2nd in the league and CL QFs the next year. Then we had two years of 4th place finishes; early European exits and a League Cup. And everyone was happy to upgrade.

The same will be true for Rodgers. Eventually you need to consistently win smaller victories (domestic cups / CL qualification) or at least challenge for the big boy comps (2nd in the league / CL semis or better) or people will grow tired (and the former won't save you in of itself in the long long run).

Read the Arsenal thread. They are unhappy and many want Wenger gone despite the extraordinary consistency of his reign.

Compete against who? Revenue standings will tell us very little about how well we can compete.

OwaynOTT

ush wrote: »

Yes. EPL and CL.

andloads of €1 All-Cash cards

ush

gafferino wrote: »

See Wenger at Arsenal. At what point does qualifying for CL and essentially doing nothing else for 9 years become too little.

Winning a domestic cup wouldn't make it look much better.

K-9

ush wrote: »

Winning a domestic cup wouldn't make it look much better.

Tbh Arsenal winning the Cup seems to have as much to do with answering opposition fan jibes of no silverware as actual enjoyment of winning the thing!

DrumSteve

Anyone heading along to this YNWA show in the Gaiety in April?

Heading along myself, though I'm hoping against hope it won't be full of people wearing the full kit.

monkey9

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Stitch half a Liverpool and half a pats jersey together .

I'd be kicked out of LOI circles for doing that!! :pac:

monkey9

DrumSteve wrote: »

Anyone heading along to this YNWA show in the Gaiety in April?

Heading along myself, though I'm hoping against hope it won't be full of people wearing the full kit.

Well I'll be wearing my half and half Liverpool/Pat's jersey anyway.

smileyj1987

monkey9 wrote: »

Well I'll be wearing my half and half Liverpool/Pat's jersey anyway.

I'll be going as a full kit wanker if Liverpool win the league . I will also post pics on boards !!!

xerces

DrumSteve wrote: »

Anyone heading along to this YNWA show in the Gaiety in April?

Heading along myself, though I'm hoping against hope it won't be full of people wearing the full kit.

Yup, heading to a show on Friday 11th.

Boom_Bap

The scouts were out and about

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2014/03/lfc-scout-report-miralem-pjanic/

mike65

All together now

Pjanic on the street of Liverpool, Panic on the streets of Manchester...

LuckyLloyd

MD1990 wrote: »

Houllier's football was terrible to watch & very defensive
Rodgers style of play is much better but but will probably be harder to do as well in Europe unless we sign a top class CB like Benatia

Well, I don't care about that. Wengerball is the beautiful game too and many of them still want rid.

Agueroooo

Boom_Bap wrote: »

The scouts were out and about

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2014/03/lfc-scout-report-miralem-pjanic/

Ohhhhh Yes Please !

retalivity

reckon the match in the Aviva will sell out, and if so, how quickly?

wouldn't mind going as I wont get to a premier league match til next season at the earliest, but the day and time of it is a balls.

smileyj1987

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Well, I don't care about that. Wengerball is the beautiful game too and many of them still want rid.

I agree . I want LFC to win trophies and that's what I'll remember houllier for . He brought back a trophy winning mentality and that is always welcome .

Augmerson

mike65 wrote: »

All together now

Pjanic on the street of Liverpool, Panic on the streets of Manchester...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlYXp_3A64k

Like that song so it's gettin' posted.

DrumSteve

smileyj1987 wrote: »

I'll be going as a full kit wanker if Liverpool win the league . I will also post pics on boards !!!

It's on it April chief.

gimli2112

smileyj1987 wrote: »

I agree . I want LFC to win trophies and that's what I'll remember houllier for . He brought back a trophy winning mentality and that is always welcome .

I remember being overjoyed to be in the League Cup final in 2001 playing Cardiff. Certainly want to be winning things every now and then

smileyj1987

DrumSteve wrote: »

It's on it April chief.

You will see me at the aviva in a full kit then . Long sleeve jersey too . That's if Liverpool won the league .

tibor

Boom_Bap wrote: »

The scouts were out and about

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2014/03/lfc-scout-report-miralem-pjanic/

WTF is Ian Ayre doing scouting players?!? :eek:

smileyj1987

tibor wrote: »

WTF is Ian Ayre doing scouting players?!? :eek:

He could be a decent motorbike mechanic too .

mike65

Man Utd 2013/14 season compilation vid.

DrumSteve

smileyj1987 wrote: »

You will see me at the aviva in a full kit then . Long sleeve jersey too . That's if Liverpool won the league .

Got my wires crossed there!

K-9

mike65 wrote: »

Man Utd 2013/14 season compilation vid.

Aye, seemed a bit too long to be true.

~Rebel~

tibor wrote: »

WTF is Ian Ayre doing scouting players?!? :eek:

I would guess if he's there, it's a step beyond just scouting. Hunter has probably seen him a lot, and Ayre has joined this time for an informal inquiry perhaps, just to see where they stand.

rob316

K-9 wrote: »

Aye, seemed a bit too long to be true.

Thinking of getting the DVD for my comedy collection at home.

gafferino

DrumSteve wrote: »

It's on it April chief.

Yep. We will have it wrapped up by then. At the latest.

dd972

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26744653

Harry Kewell's calling time on his career, could have been an Anfield great if it wasn't for the injury and weight issues, people forget what a good player he promised to be at Leeds.

gafferino

Can someone LUCKY please start the match thread.

Kunkka

I'll do it, if we draw or lose I won't post in the SF again!

Mint Sauce

So apparently we have not lost to Sunderland at Anfeild since 1983...

5starpool

Match thread was started yesterday. It's probably lurking on page 2 or 3.

I actually won't be able to watch the game live tonight, but I have it on record and will be on media blackout (hopefully) so that I can watch it when I get home, hopefully no later than 9.

Kunkka

I jumped in there

Devilman40k

5starpool wrote: »

Match thread was started yesterday. It's probably lurking on page 2 or 3.

I actually won't be able to watch the game live tonight, but I have it on record and will be on media blackout (hopefully) so that I can watch it when I get home, hopefully no later than 9.

Tell the truth you'll be checking the match thread continuously, watching us pull our hair out at shocking defending while mike touches his wood over Suarez's latest moment of genius

tony1980

Not sure if posted already...:D

5live

5starpool wrote: »

Match thread was started yesterday. It's probably lurking on page 2 or 3.

I actually won't be able to watch the game live tonight, but I have it on record and will be on media blackout (hopefully) so that I can watch it when I get home, hopefully no later than 9.

I'll PM you with details as they happen so the result doesn't come as a shock:-)

5live

tony1980 wrote: »

Not sure if posted already...:D

He should come down off the fence there...

GTR63

tony1980 wrote: »

Not sure if posted already...:D

joe123

tony1980 wrote: »

Not sure if posted already...:D

Looks like hes going to belt someone at the end there!:pac:

MarkY91

tony1980 wrote: »

Not sure if posted already...:D

i would blame the has been players more so than moyes. he did great job at everton. got to feel sorry for aul moysey

Nuri Sahin

Boom_Bap wrote: »

The scouts were out and about

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2014/03/lfc-scout-report-miralem-pjanic/

Could be a few players we'd be looking at from both teams, let alone just Pjanic.

Nuri Sahin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpztSLAjO6o

GTR63

MarkY91 wrote: »

i would blame the has been players more so than moyes. he did great job at everton. got to feel sorry for aul moysey

Yeah I want Moyes to be left alone & get a vote of confidence. :pac: :pac: :pac: :pac: :pac:

5starpool

Devilman40k wrote: »

Tell the truth you'll be checking the match thread continuously, watching us pull our hair out at shocking defending while mike touches his wood over Suarez's latest moment of genius

5live wrote: »

I'll PM you with details as they happen so the result doesn't come as a shock:-)

Oh, I'll be tempted, but I intend to not check my phone at all, and if it rings or I get a text I'll tell the missus to screen it first for spoilers. I'll get the line ups from twitter about 7, and that'll be me internet wise until after the game (I hope).

Knex*

I remember in some old Championship Manager, early 00s anyway, I tried to sign Harry Kewell from Leeds with a bit of 60m.

They were having none of it.

He had the world at his feet before injuries kicked in, and it was such a shame the way his career tailed off after all that early promise.