Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 Mod warning post#7005

shamrock55

shamrock55 wrote: »

Im just watching lfc tv and aldos team of 87-88, and it just got me thinking if our current 11 would beat that team?[CENTER

brucie
nicol gillespie hanson ablet

houghton spackman mcmahon barnes

beardsley aldo

this is the team that beat forest 5-0 in one of the greatest displays ever for a liverpool team, so you could put whealen in there instead of spackman normally

just wondering would any of our current side get in that team and could our current team beat them

personally i think the above back 4 and keeper stays the same, id put stevie instead of spackman or whealan,and of course luis most probably instead of beardsley,

i think if the 2 teams played 10 games in a row our current team might get 1 win and a couple of draws at best

what you guys think?[/CENTER]

any ideas on this??

Agent Coulson

Paulegend wrote: »

we aint going to spend more than 10 million on that position in the summer considering we have options. besides center defence on paper our attacking center mid is our strongest position.

Well considering you veiw on us getting Hummels, Shaw, Coleman, Moura, Keane and Basquets by loaning players in exchange.

I'm sure we could find more £10 million for a player in that position or sure we could loan out someome else Aspas maybe and get Messi as a back up.

Paulegend

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Well considering you veiw on us getting Hummels, Shaw, Coleman, Moura, Keane and Basquets by loaning players in exchange.

I'm sure we could find more £10 million for a player in that position or sure we could loan out someome else Aspas maybe and get Messi as a back up.

touche


but in real world the difference is we will probably spend up to 50 million this summer at the most. that includes any player sales. i doubt we will see more than that been spent. if that figure is close to reality then how could we possibly spend money on that position?

we might however get a player who can play both there and out wide. that is very possible

jcsoulinger

shamrock55 wrote: »

any ideas on this??

I think football players and the game have evolved allot since then, making comparisons is difficult and of no relevance really. The current squad of players would beat the older team every time IMO.

djPSB

Paulegend wrote: »

well as far as im concerned suso will be like a new player coming to us. in terms of his "run" here never really got going. so he will be new to the team in a way. so he is an unknown factor. he has looked like he has a lot of potential though. (no reason why suso cant be backup to coutinho next season. coming on from the bench with 10 or so minutes to go and starting in the cup games)

alberto has looked decent and i think its fair that he can be mentioned as a backup player. (should be playing back up to suso in the cup games. perhaps they could both be slotted in for some games)

tex is young. unfair to think of him as someone who can fill a void but at his age next season he should be expected to play in at least up to 10 games (probably from the bench)

aspas could also play there.

we aint going to spend more than 10 million on that position in the summer considering we have options. besides center defence on paper our attacking center mid is our strongest position.

we need a wide player and to sort out the full backs. possibly a center back depending on who leaves. then we need a defensive type mid. i think they will be the areas we focus on this summer.

Tex looked just as accomplished as Suso or Alberto in his cameo against Fulham.

Was confident on the ball and didn't try to hide. Bearing in mind it was very tough game to make your debut in.

hefferboi

I'd love if we could set up a b team and play it in the championship like in Spain. We'd have a handy team.

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Ibe

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shamrock55

jcsoulinger wrote: »

I think football players and the game have evolved allot since then, making comparisons is difficult and of no relevance really. The current squad of players would beat the older team every time IMO.

Did you used to watch that team of 88, i doubt this current team would get near it tbh

Iang87

shamrock55 wrote: »

Did you used to watch that team of 88, i doubt this current team would get near it tbh

No way team of 88 are nearly in there 50s now. I fancy our current side










.......ok i have my coat

Boom_Bap

hefferboi wrote: »

I'd love if we could set up a b team and play it in the championship like in Spain. We'd have a handy team.

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Reina
McLaughlin/Kelly--Llori---Toure---Robinson/Smith

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Teixera

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Alberto

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Ibe

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Borini

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I think there are talks of doing something like this.

....and I just found the thing i read on it -> http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/9165365/Scudamore-confirms-B-league-plans

Thud

shamrock55 wrote: »

Did you used to watch that team of 88, i doubt this current team would get near it tbh

yes but the team of 88 prob went on the lash most weekends after their games (and possibly before), fitness levels would be day and night

8-10

Paulegend wrote: »

in 10 years time will people remember the europa league he won or the time he finished 4th???

Is this another joke or serious post?

Agent Coulson

Which memeber of our current would get into the 88 team only 1 for me.

brucie
nicol gillespie hanson ablet

houghton mcmahon barnes

beardsley aldo Suarez

I'd repalce Spackman with Suarez and go 433 that's about it really.

Paulegend

8-10 wrote: »

Is this another joke or serious post?

what are you on about???

of course a manager is going to choose actually winning a trophy over finishing 4th place with a team he probably wont spend his career with.

just think Rafa at chelsea. it would have been ridiculous if he came out and said that 4th is more important to him than winning a trophy.

surely you dont need a lesson as to why????

4th place is not remembered. despite what wenger said it doesnt come with a trophy

DrumSteve

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Which memeber of our current would get into the 88 team only 1 for me.

brucie
nicol gillespie hanson ablet

houghton mcmahon barnes

beardsley aldo Suarez

I'd repalce Spackman with Suarez and go 433 that's about it really.

Gerrard ahead of McMahon.

Paulegend

djPSB wrote: »

Tex looked just as accomplished as Suso or Alberto in his cameo against Fulham.

Was confident on the ball and didn't try to hide. Bearing in mind it was very tough game to make your debut in.

of course. im not denying that he looks quality. im just saying that the others have played and shown more with the first team. even if it is marginal. i think we would all agree that suso has shown more potential in his games at liverpool and on loan.

alberto and tex are players i like though

Agent Coulson

DrumSteve wrote: »

Gerrard ahead of McMahon.

Said our current squad. Not when Gerrard was in his prime. In his prime he would be in the 88 team, not now he wouldn't get into it.

8-10

Paulegend wrote: »

what are you on about???

of course a manager is going to choose actually winning a trophy over finishing 4th place with a team he probably wont spend his career with.

just think Rafa at chelsea. it would have been ridiculous if he came out and said that 4th is more important to him than winning a trophy.

surely you dont need a lesson as to why????

4th place is not remembered. despite what wenger said it doesnt come with a trophy

Maybe it's just me but I don't even know what manager won the Europa League 5 years ago let alone 10! (looked it up - Mircea Lucescu, and actually should have known Rafa Benitez 10 years ago but he's not exactly remembered for that)

I think both are as forgettable as each other but maybe that's just me.

Nuri Sahin

Slow day is slow.

mike65

Paulegend wrote: »

what are you on about???

of course a manager is going to choose actually winning a trophy over finishing 4th place with a team he probably wont spend his career with.

just think Rafa at chelsea. it would have been ridiculous if he came out and said that 4th is more important to him than winning a trophy.

surely you dont need a lesson as to why????

4th place is not remembered. despite what wenger said it doesnt come with a trophy

Ah come on now any fool knows that 4th place is like the Championship Play Off victory, its not a cup - its the door to better a place full of money! I'd have CL qualification over a poxy EL title any day.

djPSB

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Slow day is slow.

If you had a choice...

Would you fight ten duck sized Luis Suarez or one Luis Suarez sized duck?

jcsoulinger

shamrock55 wrote: »

Did you used to watch that team of 88, i doubt this current team would get near it tbh

Not at the time, I was too young. But have seen footage from that time and think the standard has improved allot since.

I am pie

brucie
nicol gillespie hanson ablet

houghton mcmahon barnes

beardsley aldo Suarez

Would change to:

Brucie (at the start of the season I would have thought Ming)
Nicol Sahko Hanson Enrique

Gerrard

Coutinho (sorry, he's got so much more in his locker than Ray) Barnes

Beardsley Aldo Suarez

Gillespie would struggle with more mobile players, he was OK but not of Lawrenson's class. LB a weak spot, Ablett was ok, great guy but not an international or top class LB, offered not so much going fwd..not that Enrique is top class, but shades it for me. Ablett was replaced by Burrows and Staunton soon enough after the 88 season. Ray's goalscoring record was not great and in the 2 seasons following 89 and 90 he played a lot less games. I dunno, for me he's a cult favourite but not one of the greats.

I see more potential in Coutinho than Houghton. Gerrard cn do everything McMahon can and more. I feel wrong leaving out Sturridge, but it's hard to drop Aldo.

Gbear

djPSB wrote: »

If you had a choice...

Would you fight ten duck sized Luis Suarez or one Luis Suarez sized duck?

Ducks are at least as vicious as Suarez. One man-sized duck would be a ferocious beast.

I am pie

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Said our current squad. Not when Gerrard was in his prime. In his prime he would be in the 88 team, not now he wouldn't get into it.

He would.

Nerdlingr

Assaidi after doing his knee ligaments. Out for 6 weeks.

Turtyturd

A duck...Ducks have no teeth...next question.

Agent Coulson

I am pie wrote: »

He would.

He wouldn't

gafferino

Nuri Sahin

A honey badger is more Suarez like. Crazy, little ****ers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg

Paulegend

8-10 wrote: »

Maybe it's just me but I don't even know what manager won the Europa League 5 years ago let alone 10! (looked it up - Mircea Lucescu, and actually should have known Rafa Benitez 10 years ago but he's not exactly remembered for that)

I think both are as forgettable as each other but maybe that's just me.

mike65 wrote: »

Ah come on now any fool knows that 4th place is like the Championship Play Off victory, its not a cup - its the door to better a place full of money! I'd have CL qualification over a poxy EL title any day.

of course. we are fans. we want champions league football.

all im saying is it makes sense that a manager will prefer to have a trophy on his cv rather than the sentence "i finished 4th that one year"

im not denying which is more important. im just saying that for a manager i can see why they would choose the opposite to us fans

if he is planning to be at spurs in 10-15 years from now then id be thinking he wants 4th over the EL but if he is using them as a stepping stone to further his career the it will be the EL he wants

googled eyes

Just for sh1ts and giggles

shamrock55

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

A honey badger is more Suarez like. Crazy, little ****ers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg

they always go for the balls apparently, scratch the bejeebus outta them:eek:

shamrock55

jcsoulinger wrote: »

Not at the time, I was too young. But have seen footage from that time and think the standard has improved allot since.

you would need to have watched them every week to understand how good that team really was, plus i dont think the standard has improved all that much, training methods and fitness yes, but you cant teach pure tallent

jcsoulinger

shamrock55 wrote: »

you would need to have watched them every week to understand how good that team really was, plus i dont think the standard has improved all that much, training methods and fitness yes, but you cant teach pure tallent

I disagree, You can get a fair idea of the standard of any given team by watching them play once or twice. The ball is moved an awful lot quicker today how do you account for that? If you took Suarez or Sturridge right now got in the delorean and went back to 88 do you think they would score more or less goals on average?

8-10

Paulegend wrote: »

of course. we are fans. we want champions league football.

all im saying is it makes sense that a manager will prefer to have a trophy on his cv rather than the sentence "i finished 4th that one year"

im not denying which is more important. im just saying that for a manager i can see why they would choose the opposite to us fans

if he is planning to be at spurs in 10-15 years from now then id be thinking he wants 4th over the EL but if he is using them as a stepping stone to further his career the it will be the EL he wants

Which one do you think it is then based on the team he's put out tonight? And the players he has on the bench?

mike65

googled eyes wrote: »

Just for sh1ts and giggles

You provocateur, you!

Kirby

Well that picture illustrates a fairly good point about Rafa and his perception by most Liverpool fans compared to Rodgers.....but that would be treading old ground at this stage so I think it's best we not get into that again.

K-9

Kirby wrote: »

Well that picture illustrates a fairly good point about Rafa and his perception by most Liverpool fans compared to Rodgers.....but that would be treading old ground at this stage so I think it's best we not get into that again.

Well there's the small matter of Istanbul, but I doubt many would have predicted Rodgers would do that well.

murpho999

Kirby wrote: »

Well that picture illustrates a fairly good point about Rafa and his perception by most Liverpool fans compared to Rodgers.....but that would be treading old ground at this stage so I think it's best we not get into that again.

I think the picture illustrates that a goatee might suit Rodgers too.

Turtyturd

googled eyes wrote: »

Just for sh1ts and giggles

Awwwh...here it goes.

googled eyes

Chicago, New York and Charlotte: Time to show America which club has the best fans in the world

www.lfctour.com

osnola ibax

osnola ibax wrote: »

Mourinhos argument re champions league football isn't going to last long

What I mean is, he stated that Liverpool have the advantagein the league race because we don't have CL football, but either will Man City or arsenal in another games time

Morzadec

googled eyes wrote: »

Just for sh1ts and giggles

Needs context. Some Europa games in there for Rodgers, some tough CL games for Rafael. Though Rodgers perhaps managing in a more competitive league.

Either way Rodgers is doing a fantastic job, though nothing is achieved yet -Spurs still on our tail

Kirby

Kirby wrote: »

Well that picture illustrates a fairly good point about Rafa and his perception by most Liverpool fans compared to Rodgers.....but that would be treading old ground at this stage so I think it's best we not get into that again.

Until Rodgers brings home some silverware he won't even be in the same bracket tbh

Agent Coulson

There has been only one Liverpool manager in the last 50 years not to win a trophy and I hope Brendan doesn't sit beside him in the history books.

Morzadec

Morzadec wrote: »

Needs context. Some Europa games in there for Rodgers, some tough CL games for Rafael. Though Rodgers perhaps managing in a more competitive league.

Either way Rodgers is doing a fantastic job, though nothing is achieved yet -Spurs still on our tail

Scratch that, just realized its league only.

Raga had a poor first season in the league butt he CL more than made up for it, so that's not included here.

But still, Rodgers took us over as an 8th placed team. So really phenomenal achievement IF (big if) we maintain our form to get over the line to 4th (or more).

Nuri Sahin

Turtyturd wrote: »

Awwwh...here it goes.

This thread needs some..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDbNaLqVw8c

\o/

barone

look at rodgers eyes.. black out the rest .. its king kenny

mike65

Anyone watching Konoplyanka? Probably the best player out there, some lovely touches and pace (left Dawson for dead a couple of times, okay not that hard). The pitch is a typical east European disgrace - he'd be brilliant on grass!

Nuri Sahin

mike65 wrote: »

Anyone watching Konoplyanka? Probably the best player out there, some lovely touches and pace (left Dawson for dead a couple of times, okay not that hard). The pitch is a typical east European disgrace - he'd be brilliant on grass!

Not me, though partly in fear a MOTM performance will see Spurs sign him in the summer

Some Aqua fella is looking fairly decent at the moment for Fiorentina (my dark horse for the EL despite Italian clubs not really taking it seriously over the years!) though.

edit - feck it, I'll give Kono a watch so.

Goldado is well and truly broken.