Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 Mod warning post#7005

Mr Alan

Excuses for Mignolet :rolleyes:

mav79

Mr Alan wrote: »

Excuses for Mignolet :rolleyes:

Blaming Mignolet for todays defensive horror show.:rolleyes:

Mr Alan

mav79 wrote: »

Blaming Mignolet for todays defensive horror show.:rolleyes:

Who did that? Must've missed it

Ardent

Skrtel and Agger weren't helped by the lack of pressing by the midfield in front of them. The amount of times Shelvey and co got away to run at the back line in the first half was unreal.

klose

Mig could do nothing about 2/3 of swanseas goals today, not sure why hes being talked about really. The defence is the glaring issue imo, i thought id never say it after watching him for a few years but flanno is literally our best fit defender at the moment.

Tusky

Mr Alan wrote: »

Excuses for Mignolet :rolleyes:

Excuses? The only criticism of him appears to be that he was reluctant to come off his line. We conceded precisely zero goals as a result. He was not the issue today and has not been the issue all season.

Mr Alan

Tusky wrote: »

Excuses? The only criticism of him appears to be that he was reluctant to come off his line. We conceded precisely zero goals as a result. He was not the issue today and has not been the issue all season.

He wasn't at fault for goals today, agreed, but he had a poor game. I'm baffled by people making excuses for him in here is all.

Mr Alan

Defence definitely wasn't helped by our midfield alright. Need Lucas back soon as possible.

Nuri Sahin

Mr Alan wrote: »

Excuses for Mignolet :rolleyes:

Weren't you one of the people excusing Reina for so long?

Repeated rolleyes

Mr Alan

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Weren't you one of the people excusing Reina for so long?

Repeated rolleyes

No. I was one of the people who said letting Reina go on loan was retarded though. And I stand by that opinion as I feel having a goalkeeper of Reinas ability would have been beneficial this season when Mignolet could have done with dropping.

DrumSteve

I think saying Mig is a dud is a bit much.

Without some of his earlier performances we would not be where we are now.

Tusky

Mr Alan wrote: »

He wasn't at fault for goals today, agreed, but he had a poor game. I'm baffled by people making excuses for him in here is all.

But he has a pretty good excuse - the defensive displays in front of him have been shocking. Even the most confident, established goalkeepers in the world would look a bit shaky with that defence in front of them.

Mr Alan wrote: »

No. I was one of the people who said letting Reina go on loan was retarded though. And I stand by that opinion as I feel having a goalkeeper of Reinas ability would have been beneficial this season when Mignolet could have done with dropping.

Mingolet was excellent at the start of the season, then he had a poor spell and since then he has been decent. Look back at Reina's final season for Liverpool, his lows were significantly lower than Mingolet's and he didn't have many highs.

Mr Alan

DrumSteve wrote: »

I think saying Mig is a dud is a bit much.

Without some of his earlier performances we would not be where we are now.

Any good he's brought has been offset by bad mistakes he has made IMO.

I'm not saying he's a dud, but there's still serious question marks.

ush

DrumSteve wrote: »

I think saying Mig is a dud is a bit much.

Without some of his earlier performances we would not be where we are now.

Dr Steve will fix him.

Nuri Sahin

Mr Alan wrote: »

No. I was one of the people who said letting Reina go on loan was retarded though. And I stand by that opinion as I feel having a goalkeeper of Reinas ability would have been beneficial this season when Mignolet could have done with dropping.

Why don't Chelsea do that with Courtois and Cech in that case? They can surely afford to keep both on their books if they so wish.

There's only one club with two keepers of good standing on their books and that's Real Madrid with Casillas and Diego Lopez.

The vast majority of keepers are going to be unsettled somewhat with non-consistent back line, one that's chopping and changing pretty much week in and week out.

Mr Alan

Tusky wrote: »

But he has a pretty good excuse - the defensive displays in front of him have been shocking. Even the most confident, established goalkeepers in the world would look a bit shaky with that defence in front of them.

He has looked shaky in most facets of his performance for a couple of months now. **** all of it is to do with the players in front of him. As I said, bewildered by people looking for excuses for him.

Using your same logic, maybe the defence looks shakey because they've no confidence in the goalie behind them?

opr

Tusky wrote: »

Excuses? The only criticism of him appears to be that he was reluctant to come off his line. We conceded precisely zero goals as a result. He was not the issue today and has not been the issue all season.

He comes for virtually nothing ever.

The amount of times he kicked long today because he wasn't comfortable playing it out from the back under a bit of pressure was a joke. Rodgers' actually went mental on the sidelines after one of the times he opted to kick it long instead of play the pass.

Opr

Mr Alan

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Why don't Chelsea do that with Courtois and Cech in that case? They can surely afford to keep both on their books if they so wish.

There's only one club with two keepers of good standing on their books and that's Real Madrid with Casillas and Diego Lopez.

The vast majority of keepers are going to be unsettled somewhat with non-consistent back line, one that's chopping and changing pretty much week in and week out.

Look at some of the non-entities at our club/on our wage bill & there is no reason we couldn't have done it.

Mig is far from a dud but when balls come in high to the box he makes me nervous.

hefferboi

Goalkeeper is far from the problem position for us.

DrumSteve

Mr Alan wrote: »

Any good he's brought has been offset by bad mistakes he has made IMO.

I'm not saying he's a dud, but there's still serious question marks.

If the defence was performing well id be more inclined to agree with you.

mav79

After watching some of Reina's displays for Napoli this year, I doubt he would have been a better option than Mignolet at any stage.

Vinz Mesrine

Mr Alan wrote: »

Defence definitely wasn't helped by our midfield alright. Need Lucas back soon as possible.

Who would you drop? Gerrard and Hendo in their current roles are undroppable imo.

daithijjj

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Why don't Chelsea do that with Courtois and Cech in that case? They can surely afford to keep both on their books if they so wish.

There's only one club with two keepers of good standing on their books and that's Real Madrid with Casillas and Diego Lopez.

The vast majority of keepers are going to be unsettled somewhat with non-consistent back line, one that's chopping and changing pretty much week in and week out.

Probably because they are players at either end of their careers (Courtois and Reina i mean). Chelsea loaned a young keeper and brought in an old hand in Schwarzer.

Turtyturd

mav79 wrote: »

After watching some of Reina's displays for Napoli this year, I doubt he would have been a better option than Mignolet at any stage.

Didn't he get dropped at one stage?

'The Rodgers' managed to get one over on a manager Rafa managed a draw against btw.:pac:

Zapp Brannigan

Hopefully Skrtel will cop on now and stop grabbing attackers in the box.

Washington Irving

Mignolet is far from perfect, but I feel a lot more comfortable with him in goal than I was with Reina for his last two seasons.

I know the argument has been made that Reina proved himself as a top class keeper for Liverpool in previous years and while he was fantastic he did play with a solid backline in front of him and in a defensively sound Benitez system where he wasn't put into difficult positions near as much as Mignolet has been.

klose

Mr Alan wrote: »

Look at some of the non-entities at our club/on our wage bill & there is no reason we couldn't have done it.

I would have rather we sold reina but loaning him out was correct tbh, who keeps a 100k+ wages per week declining keeper on the bench?

Utopia Parkway

mav79 wrote: »

After watching some of Reina's displays for Napoli this year, I doubt he would have been a better option than Mignolet at any stage.

He lost his place has he not? At least he did until recently. I know he played against Swansea during the week.

Nuri Sahin

Mr Alan wrote: »

Look at some of the non-entities at our club/on our wage bill & there is no reason we couldn't have done it.

Reina was never going to risk his WC place by sitting on the bench for a year quote potentially, even if he's merely as a cheerleader for the national side.

5live

Just wondering....

Has anybody seen Rodgers and Keegan in the same place at the same time?

No??

Nuri Sahin

mav79 wrote: »

After watching some of Reina's displays for Napoli this year, I doubt he would have been a better option than Mignolet at any stage.

He's been average at best alright.

Turtyturd

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

Hopefully Skrtel will cop on now and stop grabbing attackers in the box.

He will have to be careful. Nearly every defender does it at nearly every set piece but the spotlight is currently on him. Hopefully he can ride it out.

Gmol

A few points from the match today, we were way too open, Gerrard kept losing Shelvey and a better player would have scored 3. Agger is poor against more physical strikers. This affects Skrtels game. I think Agger will be moved on this summer.
Allen should have come on for Coutinho at half time. Moses is crap. I wouldn't even bother having him on the bench at this stage.

klose

Gmol wrote: »

A few points from the match today, we were way too open, Gerrard kept losing Shelvey and a better player would have scored 3. Agger is poor against more physical strikers. This affects Skrtels game. I think After will be moved on this summer.
Allen should have come on for Coutinho at half time. Moses is crap. I wouldn't even bother having him on the bench at this stage.

I read rodgers said he brought toure on for agger to add more physicality, not exactly what you would want to hear if you were him. Id imagine either him or skrtel will be gone in the summer.

Norwich 1-0 :cool:

Not a chance they'll hang on, not a chance

Nuri Sahin

Ssssh!

edit - Rarnes, why

NapoleonInRags

go on the Canaries!!

Lapin

Norwich score !!!!

Nuri Sahin

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Ssssh!

edit - Rarnes, why

ninja edit (me that is)

ush

Lapin wrote: »

Norwich score !!!!

Jinxed.

brevity

STTAAAAAP!!!

WHATS THE MATTER WITH YOU ALL!

mike65

STFU the lot of you!

Fowler87

Keep her lit Norwich!

Nuri Sahin

rarnes1 wrote: »

ninja edit (me that is)

Don't worry, I stuck a little bit on Spurs @ 5/1 there to cancel it out.

@The_Real_Ade
#THFC will 100% win today. I guaranteeeeeeeeeeeee it. Not a hope they'll drop points today. A cert. Banker!

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mike65

Fowler87 wrote: »

Keep her lit Norwich!

yes I know Ipswich are the Tractor Boys but its still looks right to me.

Washington Irving

There isn't even a game on. What are you all talking about? Some U21 thing?

Hangballlouie

I love the madness of this season.

Champions elect and it feels so good.

Devilman40k

Still expect 4-1spurs... (I got this lads)

Fowler87

Soldado on now. Surely Spurs will score now....