Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 Mod warning post#7005

Vinz Mesrine · 23-02-2014 6:26pm

I'm in a pickle.

I backed Spurs to win

super_furry · 23-02-2014 6:27pm

Is Ricky Van Wolfswinkle an actual footballer or is it all some elaborate Make A Wish deal?

Sir Gallagher · 23-02-2014 6:27pm

I put a fiver on Spurs at 9/1. Just to put the mockers on them.

Nuri Sahin · 23-02-2014 6:31pm

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

I'm in a pickle.

I backed Spurs to win

I have €50 on them pre-game. Have no problem losing it.

edit - I mean, I'm 100% going to collect.

K-9 · 23-02-2014 6:33pm

It's very tense considering we know Spurs will win.

Mickalus · 23-02-2014 6:33pm

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

I have €50 on them pre-game. Have no problem losing it.

edit - I mean, I'm 100% going to collect.

We should talk before the next game, I like the way you throw money away.

Nuri Sahin · 23-02-2014 6:37pm

Mickalus wrote: »

We should talk before the next game, I like the way you throw money away.

Chumps change sure

Make it up and then some more often than not.

Agueroooo · 23-02-2014 6:37pm

Don't you's open even as much as your legs.

Vinz Mesrine · 23-02-2014 6:40pm

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

I have €50 on them pre-game. Have no problem losing it.

edit - I mean, I'm 100% going to collect.

€33 in a 5-500 challenge on it.

daithijjj · 23-02-2014 6:41pm

Just seen that the keeper for Napoli (Cabral) is ruled for 6 months so that should see Reina making at least extra appearances.

klose · 23-02-2014 6:42pm

Norwich are useless in the final third

Edit: bah god he nearly broke the crossbar

Vinz Mesrine · 23-02-2014 6:43pm

So that's 3 of us with money on Spurs. We need to do this every weekend.

Nuri Sahin · 23-02-2014 6:43pm

Holy..

Fowler87 · 23-02-2014 6:43pm

klose wrote: »

Norwich are useless in the final third

Would teach our defence a thing or two going by this game though:pac:

Lapin · 23-02-2014 6:45pm

Fowler87 wrote: »

Keep her lit Norwich!

They're on fire.

Should be 4 -0

Fowler87 · 23-02-2014 6:45pm

arrrgghh

AdamD · 23-02-2014 6:46pm

Shades of Riise vs United there

Nuri Sahin · 23-02-2014 6:46pm

Agueroooo wrote: »

Don't you's open even as much as your legs.

Wouldn't need to open your legs mate if you just followed my NBA bets :pac:

Nuri Sahin · 23-02-2014 6:47pm

Spurs goal(s) incoming!

Vinz Mesrine · 23-02-2014 6:49pm

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Spurs goal(s) incoming!

They've shown nothing today.

What was the consensus here on Soldado before he signed for Spurs? I was very disappointed that we signed Sturridge and didn't make a move for Soldado last year

willowthewisp · 23-02-2014 6:49pm

Can see a pen here

Morzadec · 23-02-2014 6:49pm

opr wrote: »

That was probably the most attacking setup in terms of personal, position and tactics that I've seen under Rodgers which is saying something. We had at times the two full backs pushed up the pitch with Henderson/Coutinho pushed right up behind the attack in a 1-2 midfield. So when we attacked at times the team looked something like this

Sterling
Suarez
Sturridge

Johnson
Coutinho
Henderson
Flanagan
Gerrard
Skrtel
Agger

^^^Mad stuff altogether.

I don't think we pressed effectively enough high up the pitch which meant we didn't retain or recycle the ball enough. I thought Allen coming on changed that considerably. He was very good when he came on. It does though mean when the ball is turned over high up the pitch that a quick pass into central midfield and we're generally looking at being cut wide open with only Gerrard and two defenders to beat. Ideally I'd like a strong, fast powerful player where Gerrard is in that system.

Rodgers actually tried to play a very similar way when he first arrived at Liverpool but pragmatism won out with a more conservative approach which was more tailored to the players at his disposal. He clearly feels like he can make it work with the current group.

Opr

mike65 wrote: »

A team consists of a few sub-groups and one of them is clearly not working
GK
CB----CB
DM

All really need to start talking to each other or at least pointing a lot, as in "play it there" or "drop closer here" as it is Mig is stuck on his line while the rest hardly know where each other is - or is going to be.

Came on to ask this question, and we have 2 opposing views here - to what extent is our poor defensive record down to personnel as opposed to tactics?

Do the tactics need to be tweaked or the personnel changed?

It's probably a little of both, but it does seem that a lot of out defensive woes come from individual errors.

I think a big thing is Gerrard. For me he's had some top performances in DM in the last month and the benefit of having him starting attacks from deep was evident with the winner today, particularly with the options he has to pick out.

However, when we're playing the type of setup outlined by opr above, Gerrard is certainly not mobile or athletic enough to get through the absolute mountain of defensive work asked of him. To play bombing fullbacks AND two CMs running beyond the front 3 requires a DM of phenomenal defensive ability, speed, fitness and athleticism. Is playing Gerrard in a 1-2 (particularly when one of those 2 is the very attack mixed Coutinho) asking for trouble?

At the same time, do we want to curb our incredible attacking ability? Do we want to tell 2 goal Henderson to hold his forward runs? Do we want to replace someone with the flair and speed of Coutinho, with a more solid all-rounder like Allen?