clearance of pile of branches (grab truck)

4th horsemen

I have a big pile of branches in my field that i want to get cleared.
I am looking for someone who has a grab truck in the Galway area,
who can basically drive up and pick up the big pile of branches and put them in back of lorry and take it away and be done with it in one go.

Does anyone know if company or person that can do this around Galway.
I cleared a good bit myself last summer when hiring a van and doing two big loads but to much work and time.

want a grab truck who can come and clear all in one go with minimal effort and time. Not guys with vans etc, and not going to be burning it.

See pic of the pile that needs clearing

wildlifeboy

burn it all. job done!

Norfolk Enchants_

wildlifeboy wrote: »

burn it all. job done!

+1
Can't see you getting a truck anywhere near that until the ground firms up.

GY A1

4th horsemen wrote: »

I have a big pile of branches in my field that i want to get cleared.
I am looking for someone who has a grab truck in the Galway area,
who can basically drive up and pick up the big pile of branches and put them in back of lorry and take it away and be done with it in one go.

Does anyone know if company or person that can do this around Galway.
I cleared a good bit myself last summer when hiring a van and doing two big loads but to much work and time.

want a grab truck who can come and clear all in one go with minimal effort and time. Not guys with vans etc, and not going to be burning it.

See pic of the pile that needs clearing

not an awful lot there, could u carry it to a car trailer, wont get far in a field or garden with all this rain, or leave for a few months,
will be lighter then also

Oldtree

wildlifeboy wrote: »

burn it all. job done!

Before you "burn it" there are a few things you need to do, see point 4 onwards here:

http://www.galway.ie/en/Services/Environment/WasteManagement/Backyardburning/
otherwise you will be subject to prosecution.

Oldtree

4th horsemen wrote: »

I have a big pile of branches in my field that i want to get cleared.
I am looking for someone who has a grab truck in the Galway area,
who can basically drive up and pick up the big pile of branches and put them in back of lorry and take it away and be done with it in one go.

Does anyone know if company or person that can do this around Galway.
I cleared a good bit myself last summer when hiring a van and doing two big loads but to much work and time.

want a grab truck who can come and clear all in one go with minimal effort and time. Not guys with vans etc, and not going to be burning it.

See pic of the pile that needs clearing

It isn't a huge pile and it would make an excellent insect habitat until it biodegrades away in a few years. Have you a corner that it could be put in? Maby put a saw through it to make it smaller.

Another option is a chipper that will reduce it to 1 tenth of its volume at least and can be used as a mulch or again left in a corner.

Ichabod Crane

wildlifeboy wrote: »

burn it all. job done!

What about the wildlife wildlifeboy?:eek:
I'd leave it for a while longer(until the end of April perhaps)just in case there's hibernating hedgehogs in there.

wildlifeboy

I had my tongue in cheek saying burn it. i had a very similar size pile myself last april and i bunged it in a corner to rot. its less than half the size now. every couple of weeks i snapped the bigger branches and put them on top.

Oldtree

Naughty wildlifeboy , I have piled up my branches as well as log piles as homes for the lovely critters that keep down the aphids in the polytunnel in summer, don't use any sprays

My Potatoes

Do you have an open fire? Use a loppers to cut it down into kindling. But leave it as is 'til the summer anyway.

4th horsemen

As mentioned in my original post, I WON'T be burning it

It looks like a small pile in the picture but there is a lot there, It's been there since we got the house this time last year and been there few years prior to that and I've added to it when clearing trees etc but have all the big branches etc taken out for my stove.

I hired a Box van and took 2 loads to the dump last summer and there is still a massive pile there only with more awkward leftovers that you can't really saw through.

There is a drive all the way in along the side of my garden within 2 yards of the pile so driving in won't be a problem.
Prob be no harm to wait for drier weather tho but it's right at beginning of my field right near the drive in.

There is also to much to be moving it and it will not solve the problem.

I could get van again and do bout 4 runs but it's to much f...ing around. Seen a fella on donedeal with small lorry with metal grill sides and grab on it offering just what I want but he is in limerick!! So was hoping someone or some company has similar service.

See add: http://www.donedeal.ie/gardenplants-for-sale/stuck-for-a-truck-rubbish-removeals/4358344

This would be perfect, Come - Collect - and be done with it.

I know i can spend weeks cutting it and taking brambles out of it etc etc but it's to much feckin around doin that.
Altho might not have choice but that's why I'm posting here to see

rje66

4th horsemen wrote: »

As mentioned in my original post, I WON'T be burning it

It looks like a small pile in the picture but there is a lot there, It's been there since we got the house this time last year and been there few years prior to that and I've added to it when clearing trees etc but have all the big branches etc taken out for my stove.

I hired a Box van and took 2 loads to the dump last summer and there is still a massive pile there only with more awkward leftovers that you can't really saw through.

There is a drive all the way in along the side of my garden within 2 yards of the pile so driving in won't be a problem.
Prob be no harm to wait for drier weather tho but it's right at beginning of my field right near the drive in.

There is also to much to be moving it and it will not solve the problem.

I could get van again and do bout 4 runs but it's to much f...ing around. Seen a fella on donedeal with small lorry with metal grill sides and grab on it offering just what I want but he is in limerick!! So was hoping someone or some company has similar service.

See add: http://www.donedeal.ie/gardenplants-for-sale/stuck-for-a-truck-rubbish-removeals/4358344

This would be perfect, Come - Collect - and be done with it.

I know i can spend weeks cutting it and taking brambles out of it etc etc but it's to much feckin around doin that.
Altho might not have choice but that's why I'm posting here to see

To try and find a grab in your area ask anyone you see using a mini digger or any body who drives a jcb. These guys generally know grab operators.

Norfolk Enchants_

Unlike my esteemed friend above I wasn't joking about burning, there really isn't an issue if done responsibly and you haven't got overly sensitive neighbours.

4th horsemen

My other half's father says same thing but I'm not fond of burning it, have a barrel which I used for burning bits but will take me all year to do it that way and don't want to burn the big pile as it is to close to my wooden fence and to big a pile to let go up in smoke. I personally would find that a dodgy thing to do.

I know burning is the quick and easy way of clearing the pile but:
1. I wouldn't be comfortable burning a big pile like that - in case i start fires elsewhere, and to close to my fence etc
2. Don't want a big dirty black burn patch which will still have a lot of ash and crap left over to clear then (I want to extend the back garden into the field!)
3. Just don't like burning stuff Go back 30 years when i was a kid and I'd have had no problem starting a bonfire with that pile!!

I know of all the different ways of doing it but want to see can I get it done the way I want before I manually bring it to dump over the summer months

Oldtree

Norfolk Enchants_ wrote: »

Unlike my esteemed friend above I wasn't joking about buring, there really isn't an issue if done responsibly and you haven't got overly sensitive neighbours.

You need to update yourself on Irish law before giving advice to a poster to do something that is against the law here. There is a serious issue of fines

Burning household waste can incur a fine of up to €3,000 or 12 months in prison upon summary conviction in a district court.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/environment/waste_management_and_recycling/burning_household_waste.html

Norfolk Enchants_

4th horsemen wrote: »

My other half's father says same thing but I'm not fond of burning it, have a barrel which I used for burning bits but will take me all year to do it that way and don't want to burn the big pile as it is to close to my wooden fence and to big a pile to let go up in smoke. I personally would find that a dodgy thing to do.

I know burning is the quick and easy way of clearing the pile but:
1. I wouldn't be comfortable burning a big pile like that - in case i start fires elsewhere, and to close to my fence etc
2. Don't want a big dirty black burn patch which will still have a lot of ash and crap left over to clear then (I want to extend the back garden into the field!)
3. Just don't like burning stuff Go back 30 years when i was a kid and I'd have had no problem starting a bonfire with that pile!!

I know of all the different ways of doing it but want to see can I get it done the way I want before I manually bring it to dump over the summer months

I wouldn't recommend setting fire to the big pile you have in the picture, I'd start a small fire to the side maybe 10 yards away and just feed that from the big pile. Done carefully and responsibly it is the best solution imo.

Oldtree wrote: »

You need to update yourself on Irish law before giving advice to a poster to do something that is against the law here. There is a serious issue of fines

Burning household waste can incur a fine of up to €3,000 or 12 months in prison upon summary conviction in a district court.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/environment/waste_management_and_recycling/burning_household_waste.html

Thanks Oldtree I'm well aware of the law and respect it fully, may I suggest you go and research the difference between household waste and green waste, before you become that nuisance neighbour who is always the first to quote health and safety and the laws pertaining to same.

Oldtree

Norfolk Enchants_ wrote: »

I wouldn't recommend setting fire to the big pile you have in the picture, I'd start a small fire to the side maybe 10 yards away and just feed that from the big pile. Done carefully and responsibly it is the best solution imo.

Thanks Oldtree I'm well aware of the law and respect it fully, may I suggest you go and research the difference between household waste and green waste, before you become that nuisance neighbour who is always the first to quote health and safety and the laws pertaining to same.

What part of:

It is illegal to burn household or garden waste at home or in your garden

did you not understand? Your bad advice/opinion can get the OP into trouble.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/environment/waste_management_and_recycling/burning_household_waste.html

Is the council here in mayo a nuisance neighbour? They hire a helicopter to spot such burning infringements and appear to take the issue more seriously than you do:

http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3299&Itemid=26
http://www.advertiser.ie/mayo/article/12659

Trying to attack me does not change the laws here in Ireland. please point me towards your perceived difference in law between household waste and green waste when it comes to backyard burning that you respect.

GY A1

you can burn garden waste or leaves or branches but firstly u need permisson from ur local county council by notifying them with their relevant form,

edit, the above is permitted for farmers

"There is an exemption to allow farmers to dispose by burning of untreated/uncontaminated wood, trees, trimmings, leaves, bushes or similar materials generated by agricultural practices as a very last resort. (This exemption does not apply unless the waste is generated by agricultural practices so it would not apply to leaves/grass/bushes in a domestic garden for example)"

GY A1

here ya go
from mayo co
Backyard Burning

The term Backyard Burning is applied to the uncontrolled burning of waste. The term also refers to the burning of any waste in open fires, ranges and other solid fuel appliances or in the open. It includes the burning of green waste and also to the burning of waste on building sites. This term also refers to the use of what are commonly described as rubbish burners or domestic waste incinerators.

The Problems

Burning used to be seen as a nuisance to the householder because it ruined a neighbour's washing with smuts. In the past the nuisance caused directly by smoke was considered the only reason not to burn waste. Traditionally waste was made up of simple things like wood, paper and organically produced food waste. However modern science has changed much of this. The application of chemicals to preserve and enhance things and the widespread use of metals and plastic in most manufacturing items has changed much of what is in our waste today.

Toxic Fumes

When we burn most waste items, toxic and dangerous by-products are created. These are not subsequently destroyed by the fire and are emitted into the air we breathe. These pollutants can have profound long term health implications. Tiny amounts of some pollutants emitted by the backyard burning of chlorinated products like certain types of plastics and solvents. These are sufficient to have undesirable health effects. They can also contaminate our back-gardens when they precipitate out of the air and land on the ground. This type of uncontrolled burning should be avoided at all costs. For example burning wood that is painted or treated with a preservative can be the cause of emitting very toxic fumes. The same is true when paper, which is plastic coated or contains certain inks, or glue used to bind pages together in book form, is burned.

The Law

Back yard burning of waste is prohibited by SI No 504 of 2013 - Waste Management (Prohibition of Waste Disposal by Burning (Amendment) Regulations (amended) 2013. The main points of the new legislation are as follows however this explanation does not act as a substitute for the law.

It is an offence to burn any type of waste including garden waste.
The use of devices to burn waste such as the “domestic waste incinerators” is an offence.
It is an offence to burn household waste by use of stoves or open fires.
There is an exemption to allow farmers to dispose by burning of untreated/uncontaminated wood, trees, trimmings, leaves, bushes or similar materials generated by agricultural practices as a very last resort. (This exemption does not apply unless the waste is generated by agricultural practices so it would not apply to leaves/grass/bushes in a domestic garden for example)
This exemption only applies until the 1st January 2016, after which time all burning will be disallowed unless an application is made for a Certificate of Registration under the Waste Management (Facility Permit and Registration) Regulations.
Until 1st Jan 2016: The onus is on farmers to investigate all other more environmentally friendly methods of treatment of their green waste such as reduction, reuse, and recycling by shredding, composting or wood chipping before disposal by burning.
The exemption applies when all other options of disposal of the green waste generated by agricultural practices are found not to be practicable or economically viable.
The farmers (holder of the waste) will have to apply to the local authority and sign a statutory notice in advance of the proposed burning of such waste.
Strict conditions apply when using burning as a means of disposal of green waste (generated by agricultural practices) such as limiting nuisance and protection of human health and not causing environmental pollution.
The use of untreated or uncontaminated wood waste and other similar materials can be used in barbeques for the purpose of cooking food.
Burning of untreated or uncontaminated wood waste or similar materials may take place at events as may be determined locally by the local authority.


Procedures for farmers wishing to burn green waste generated by agricultural practices

The applicant must submit a signed application form. Please include the following (1) Proof that cost of mulching is not economically viable, (2) Photo of nature and volume of waste, (3) Discovery map (Scale 1:50 000) with 'X' marked clearly on location where burning is intended.

Application Form for Burning of Green Waste

Mulching as a means of waste management

An alternative way of managing woody materials cleared from agricultural lands would be to mulch, chip or shred materials. The final product then becomes a resource that can be used for landscaping or gardening purposes on your property.

Equipment to carry out mulching may be available from local tool hire companies but if quantities are large you may want to use the services of Tree Surgeons which would have specialist equipment to carry out mulching.

Oldtree

GY A1 wrote: »

here ya go
from mayo co
Backyard Burning

The term Backyard Burning is applied to the uncontrolled burning of waste. The term also refers to the burning of any waste in open fires, ranges and other solid fuel appliances or in the open. It includes the burning of green waste and also to the burning of waste on building sites. This term also refers to the use of what are commonly described as rubbish burners or domestic waste incinerators.

The Problems

Burning used to be seen as a nuisance to the householder because it ruined a neighbour's washing with smuts. In the past the nuisance caused directly by smoke was considered the only reason not to burn waste. Traditionally waste was made up of simple things like wood, paper and organically produced food waste. However modern science has changed much of this. The application of chemicals to preserve and enhance things and the widespread use of metals and plastic in most manufacturing items has changed much of what is in our waste today.

Toxic Fumes

When we burn most waste items, toxic and dangerous by-products are created. These are not subsequently destroyed by the fire and are emitted into the air we breathe. These pollutants can have profound long term health implications. Tiny amounts of some pollutants emitted by the backyard burning of chlorinated products like certain types of plastics and solvents. These are sufficient to have undesirable health effects. They can also contaminate our back-gardens when they precipitate out of the air and land on the ground. This type of uncontrolled burning should be avoided at all costs. For example burning wood that is painted or treated with a preservative can be the cause of emitting very toxic fumes. The same is true when paper, which is plastic coated or contains certain inks, or glue used to bind pages together in book form, is burned.

The Law

Back yard burning of waste is prohibited by SI No 504 of 2013 - Waste Management (Prohibition of Waste Disposal by Burning (Amendment) Regulations (amended) 2013. The main points of the new legislation are as follows however this explanation does not act as a substitute for the law.

It is an offence to burn any type of waste including garden waste.
The use of devices to burn waste such as the “domestic waste incinerators” is an offence.
It is an offence to burn household waste by use of stoves or open fires.
There is an exemption to allow farmers to dispose by burning of untreated/uncontaminated wood, trees, trimmings, leaves, bushes or similar materials generated by agricultural practices as a very last resort. (This exemption does not apply unless the waste is generated by agricultural practices so it would not apply to leaves/grass/bushes in a domestic garden for example)
This exemption only applies until the 1st January 2016, after which time all burning will be disallowed unless an application is made for a Certificate of Registration under the Waste Management (Facility Permit and Registration) Regulations.
Until 1st Jan 2016: The onus is on farmers to investigate all other more environmentally friendly methods of treatment of their green waste such as reduction, reuse, and recycling by shredding, composting or wood chipping before disposal by burning.
The exemption applies when all other options of disposal of the green waste generated by agricultural practices are found not to be practicable or economically viable.
The farmers (holder of the waste) will have to apply to the local authority and sign a statutory notice in advance of the proposed burning of such waste.
Strict conditions apply when using burning as a means of disposal of green waste (generated by agricultural practices) such as limiting nuisance and protection of human health and not causing environmental pollution.
The use of untreated or uncontaminated wood waste and other similar materials can be used in barbeques for the purpose of cooking food.
Burning of untreated or uncontaminated wood waste or similar materials may take place at events as may be determined locally by the local authority.


Procedures for farmers wishing to burn green waste generated by agricultural practices

The applicant must submit a signed application form. Please include the following (1) Proof that cost of mulching is not economically viable, (2) Photo of nature and volume of waste, (3) Discovery map (Scale 1:50 000) with 'X' marked clearly on location where burning is intended.

Application Form for Burning of Green Waste

Mulching as a means of waste management

An alternative way of managing woody materials cleared from agricultural lands would be to mulch, chip or shred materials. The final product then becomes a resource that can be used for landscaping or gardening purposes on your property.

Equipment to carry out mulching may be available from local tool hire companies but if quantities are large you may want to use the services of Tree Surgeons which would have specialist equipment to carry out mulching.

as mentioned towards the start of the thread:

Oldtree wrote: »

Before you "burn it" there are a few things you need to do, see point 4 onwards here:

http://www.galway.ie/en/Services/Environment/WasteManagement/Backyardburning/
otherwise you will be subject to prosecution.

And other than agricultural practices there is no exemption or application for permission.

Norfolk Enchants_

Oldtree wrote: »

What part of:

It is illegal to burn household or garden waste at home or in your garden

did you not understand? Your bad advice/opinion can get the OP into trouble.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/environment/waste_management_and_recycling/burning_household_waste.html

Is the council here in mayo a nuisance neighbour? They hire a helicopter to spot such burning infringements and appear to take the issue more seriously than you do:

http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3299&Itemid=26
http://www.advertiser.ie/mayo/article/12659

Trying to attack me does not change the laws here in Ireland. please point me towards your perceived difference in law between household waste and green waste when it comes to backyard burning that you respect.

Alright Oldtree keep your shirt on, there's no one accusing you of anything although if the shoe fits.....
I agree with the law and it's blanket application, although personally I have no issue with and fail to see the difference between a wood fire inside the home and one properly managed outdoors. Perhaps you'd care to explain?
With regard the difference between house hold waste and green waste, I'm unable to help you in understanding the difference if you don't already know, although google is your friend.

Oldtree

Norfolk Enchants_ wrote: »

Alright Oldtree keep your shirt on, there's no one accusing you of anything although if the shoe fits......

The shoe doesn't fit.

Norfolk Enchants_ wrote: »

I agree with the law and it's blanket application, although personally I have no issue with and fail to see the difference between a wood fire inside the home and one properly managed outdoors. Perhaps you'd care to explain?.

Good for you I'm glad you do, but you do understand that your personal opinion could have put a poster in contravention of the law. Why would you expect me to explain the vagaries of Irish law to you when you can clearly use google?

Norfolk Enchants_ wrote: »

With regard the difference between house hold waste and green waste, I'm unable to help you in understanding the difference if you don't already know, although google is your friend.

I didn't think you would be able to back up your opinion, therefore please be careful in future when proffering an opinion that could get a poster here in trouble with the law. Perhaps you could at least look at links posted by others or even google it yourself.:D

4th horsemen

Cheers for the advice,

As for the burning argument, As mentioned I WILL NOT BE BURNING IT, so this argument is not helping my thread.

Back to topic, I am hoping to possibly find a fella, woman or company that has a small grab lorry that can come and pick up my pile of branches etc and put it into back of their lorry and take it away.

Oldtree

4th horsemen wrote: »

Cheers for the advice,

As for the burning argument, As mentioned I WILL NOT BE BURNING IT, so this argument is not helping my thread.

Back to topic, I am hoping to possibly find a fella, woman or company that has a small grab lorry that can come and pick up my pile of branches etc and put it into back of their lorry and take it away.

Yes you did!

4th horsemen

Oldtree wrote: »

Yes you did!

yes i did what?

Oldtree

Oldtree wrote: »

Yes you did!

4th horsemen wrote: »

As mentioned I WILL NOT BE BURNING IT,

numerous times

mikom

4th horsemen wrote: »

Back to topic, I am hoping to possibly find a fella, woman or company that has a small grab lorry that can come and pick up my pile of branches etc and put it into back of their lorry and take it away.

What will they do with the pile of branches when they take it away?

Oldtree

They need a waste licence to remove it to a licenced premises.

4th horsemen

Oldtree wrote: »

numerous times

OK, glad we got that sorted:D

4th horsemen

mikom wrote: »

What will they do with the pile of branches when they take it away?

That will not be my problem!

and they will be getting paid for it

mikom

4th horsemen wrote: »

That will not be my problem!

and they will be getting paid for it

Oh I know that............. just wondered what would be done with such bulk.