Garda Recruitment - Stage 2

VicMack

Its done and dusted now, best of luck to everyone

For anyone who has done stage 2 previously, how long did you have to wait for the results for stage 3?

Also were you told you got to stage 3 straight away or placed in to another band for the future?

Dublingirl88

VicMack wrote: »

Its done and dusted now, best of luck to everyone

For anyone who has done stage 2 previously, how long did you have to wait for the results for stage 3?

Also were you told you got to stage 3 straight away or placed in to another band for the future?

It was about a month wait, and you may get placed in a new set of bands, for us it was;

1-600 = Band 1 and these were being brought to stage 3.
601-3,100 = Band 2 - to be called if additional numbers after Band 1 were needed.
then the remainder I think who didn't pass were classed as Band 3...

jwm85

VicMack wrote: »

Its done and dusted now, best of luck to everyone

For anyone who has done stage 2 previously, how long did you have to wait for the results for stage 3?

Also were you told you got to stage 3 straight away or placed in to another band for the future?

I did Stage 2 in Jan/Feb 2014.
Got the results within 2-3 weeks.
I did stage 3 in March 2015

Depending on your OOM you may have to wait a while to be called.

Mark..

jwm85 wrote: »

I did Stage 2 in Jan/Feb 2014.
Got the results within 2-3 weeks.
I did stage 3 in March 2015

Depending on your OOM you may have to wait a while to be called.

Do you mind me asking were you in band 2 in that case?

Maria79

From reading other posts from stages 3/5 I would say if any of us pass we roll have a long edit to get to stage 3 or 4 or 5, one guy said he did His stage 2 in jan 2014, and didn't do stage 3 until March 2015!! So I wouldnt hold our breaths. Also the next batch is in October and the next batch is not until March of next year!! So hopefully When j get my results and hopefully I have passed but I don't think so..:( I'm going to put it to the back of my mind until I get a email..

jwm85

Mark.. wrote: »

Do you mind me asking were you in band 2 in that case?

I was in Band 1 (1 - 5000) but only the first 600 were called forward to Stage 3

mycro89

Maria79 wrote: »

From reading other posts from stages 3/5 I would say if any of us pass we roll have a long edit to get to stage 3 or 4 or 5, one guy said he did His stage 2 in jan 2014, and didn't do stage 3 until March 2015!! So I wouldnt hold our breaths. Also the next batch is in October and the next batch is not until March of next year!! So hopefully When j get my results and hopefully I have passed but I don't think so..:( I'm going to put it to the back of my mind until I get a email..

Who said the next class is in March ??

kessyj92

I called public jobs today and they said the results will be with us within a fortnight so hopefully that is the case and don't have too long to find out 😊

Wannabegarda

We are all enemies now so..

Wannabegarda

It's on!!!

mycro89

Wannabegarda wrote: »

We are all enemies now so..

A bit harsh laaaaad...we could be working along side each other some day

Maria79

I read it in some of the posts I think inthe stage 5 threads. They said something like if they don't get called in for October intake they would have to wait until the next batch in feb/March...

Wannabegarda

mycro89 wrote: »

A bit harsh laaaaad...we could be working along side each other some day

We are not all going to get through laaaad....just saying....

Wannabegarda

Maria79 wrote: »

I read it in some of the posts I think inthe stage 5 threads. They said something like if they don't get called in for October intake they would have to wait until the next batch in feb/March...

just concentrate on the next stage for the moment. dont worry bout intakes....

WillFerrell93

Maria79 wrote: »

I read it in some of the posts I think inthe stage 5 threads. They said something like if they don't get called in for October intake they would have to wait until the next batch in feb/March...

Next intake after October is in December.. Then probably March

VicMack

Sorry for slightly off-topic, but would anyone here consider joining the Reserves if they don't make Stage 3?

Wannabegarda

Do it. I'm in it a long time. It will help if you get to stage 4

mycro89

Wannabegarda wrote: »

Do it. I'm in it a long time. It will help if you get to stage 4

But should it not have helped from the outset? I've applied, have heard nothing back, are they still taking on reserves?

Wannabegarda

get onto the i dont know the answer.

Wannabegarda

I dont know why we werent given a hand up..theres talk of help in the next campaign...thats all speculation though and cant be confirmed.

mycro89

It's sickening, I'm sure they know the results by now and the fact we have to wait is daunting, i'm off for a run to clear the head of it all

Wannabegarda

Keep it out of your head kid. Don't think about it

Dublingirl88

Wannabegarda wrote: »

I dont know why we werent given a hand up...

So it would be a fair and equal campaign... just because peoples circumstances prevented them from joining the reserves shouldn't put them at a disadvantage...

Wannabegarda

Special constables are given a hand with recruitment the met police nearly recruit all their full time officers from the specials nowadays. I put five years into it. I'm off work today and I'm going in later on this morning because I was needed in there today. We might not have full powers of Gardai and we may have a bad reputation but there should be some kind of system. To help the reserves that actually make an effort.

AudiKid

Dublingirl88 wrote: »

So it would be a fair and equal campaign... just because peoples circumstances prevented them from joining the reserves shouldn't put them at a disadvantage...

Yeah I agree. So far this campaign has been very fair and everyone has been treated equally.

Many people have a wide variety of skills, from numerous jobs and college qualifications.

Thankfully everyone is been given a fair shot

VicMack

Wannabegarda wrote: »

Special constables are given a hand with recruitment the met police nearly recruit all their full time officers from the specials nowadays. I put five years into it. I'm off work today and I'm going in later on this morning because I was needed in there today. We might not have full powers of Gardai and we may have a bad reputation but there should be some kind of system. To help the reserves that actually make an effort.

Agreed. I'm also a Reserve. I work 39 works hours a week in my own job, I still manage to get down to my station every second week. Its given me an insight to the job itself and first hand experience, it's shown me that's it's definetly the job for me and the career I want.

There will always be some people who join the guards and then once they get attested and are sent to their station, will quickly resign as they didn't know what the job itself would be like. (Big difference between role plays in Templemore and being out on the beat dealing with difficult members of the public) That's why I do recommend the Reserves for anyone who has a serious interest in joining AGS and experiencing the job first hand.

Wannabegarda

And I'm not saying that it should be any easier for reserves to get in but have some kind of system where reserves are recommended for full time service by top brass and they can skip the first stage two stages and go to stage 3. Now this would only be a small amount of reserves could be selected for this based on performance. A kind of internal campaign run by the Gards of something like that...

Dublingirl88

Wannabegarda wrote: »

Special constables are given a hand with recruitment the met police nearly recruit all their full time officers from the specials nowadays. I put five years into it. I'm off work today and I'm going in later on this morning because I was needed in there today. We might not have full powers of Gardai and we may have a bad reputation but there should be some kind of system. To help the reserves that actually make an effort.

Well to 'get a hand up' and to have a natural progression from the reserves to AGS are two different things.

I think an open competition should be fair and equal to all, but I would agree that a separate process for reserves to enter AGS on merit from their performance as a Reserve would be completely fair and well deserved for most if not all Reserves.

mycro89

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0910/726939-gardai/

Will these come from Band 2 and 3? or is there a surplice still from Band 1?

Dublingirl88

mycro89 wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0910/726939-gardai/

Will these come from Band 2 and 3? or is there a surplice still from Band 1?

There are at least 400 from Band 1 looking to get into the next few intakes, next one is October there are rumours of December/January and then I would guess there would be a March intake....

Wannabegarda

When u starting dublingurl?

Dublingirl88

As soon as possible hopefully, vetting still hasn't come back...

ollieo

Wannabegarda wrote: »

I dont know why we werent given a hand up..theres talk of help in the next campaign...thats all speculation though and cant be confirmed.

The first two stages are aptitudes, level playing field for all.

Being a Reserve will help you in Stage 3 for the report writing and job simulation.

It will also be a huge help for the interview at Stage 4 because you will/should have examples demonstrating all of the competencies.

You may not have gotten a helping hand, but if you can get through the aptitudes you should get through the following stages easily enough.

Wannabegarda

Where you in it Ollieo did you get through?

JoeyJoe93

It was stated before by AGS that reserves get no special treatment from any other applicant.
This is all based off aptitude so far.
Personally I know reserves who would never make good gards. Anybody without a criminal record could be a reserve. Not everyone can or at least should be a gard.
In England they have a police force, here we have a police service. There is a difference so it's not completely fair to compare the two systems. But reserves shouldn't be too put out and think it's unfair, ye still have a big advantage over the rest of us from direct experience and contacts.

I hope once all is done we will have a service filled with dedicated, professional and respectful gards chosen by these merits instead of using nepotism and right of passage.

Copaholic

Without any doubt at all there should be a separate internal stream for the reserves and currently there are negotiations between AGS and PAS of how this may take place most probably in the next recruitment drive. Reserves who carry out their duties and gain valuable on the job experience without any pay should be part of an internal stream and it has been an unbelievable failing of the system that this internal stream was not up and running for the current campaign

Of course there are some reserves that may not be suitable for the full time positions but by the same token that also applies to those (reserves and non reserves) that pass all the aptitude tests in the world and end up being not suited to the job when they hit the street. Aptitude tests are first and foremost an excellent method of simply reducing applicant numbers to more manageable levels as seen in this campaign, In addition the results one achieves in aptitude test are not written in stone and can be improved by practice. In addition some people are naturally more suited to aptitude method of testing but not necessarily be suited to the job. As a result the method of aptitude testing in its current form will not 100% of the time only pick those that are suited to the job and will invariably select some people that are not suited. Consequently there will be applicants that get through the tests etc but not make good gardai. By the same token the aptitude tests have eliminated some people that would have made excellent gardai but are not as suited to aptitude tests.

At the end of the day this is the system in place at the moment and people can only work within its parameters

JoeyJoe93

Copaholic wrote: »

Without any doubt at all there should be a separate internal stream for the reserves and currently there are negotiations between AGS and PAS of how this may take place most probably in the next recruitment drive. Reserves who carry out their duties and gain valuable on the job experience without any pay should be part of an internal stream and it has been an unbelievable failing of the system that this internal stream was not up and running for the current campaign

Of course there are some reserves that may not be suitable for the full time positions but by the same token that also applies to those (reserves and non reserves) that pass all the aptitude tests in the world and end up being not suited to the job when they hit the street. Aptitude tests are first and foremost an excellent method of simply reducing applicant numbers to more manageable levels as seen in this campaign, In addition the results one achieves in aptitude test are not written in stone and can be improved by practice. In addition some people are naturally more suited to aptitude method of testing but not necessarily be suited to the job. As a result the method of aptitude testing in its current form will not 100% of the time only pick those that are suited to the job and will invariably select some people that are not suited. Consequently there will be applicants that get through the tests etc but not make good gardai. By the same token the aptitude tests have eliminated some people that would have made excellent gardai but are not as suited to aptitude tests.

At the end of the day this is the system in place at the moment and people can only work within its parameters

Very well said.
You can only hope that potential will be fairly recognised during the process and judgment will be based on that.

AudiKid

Copaholic wrote: »

Without any doubt at all there should be a separate internal stream for the reserves and currently there are negotiations between AGS and PAS of how this may take place most probably in the next recruitment drive. Reserves who carry out their duties and gain valuable on the job experience without any pay should be part of an internal stream and it has been an unbelievable failing of the system that this internal stream was not up and running for the current campaign

Of course there are some reserves that may not be suitable for the full time positions but by the same token that also applies to those (reserves and non reserves) that pass all the aptitude tests in the world and end up being not suited to the job when they hit the street. Aptitude tests are first and foremost an excellent method of simply reducing applicant numbers to more manageable levels as seen in this campaign, In addition the results one achieves in aptitude test are not written in stone and can be improved by practice. In addition some people are naturally more suited to aptitude method of testing but not necessarily be suited to the job. As a result the method of aptitude testing in its current form will not 100% of the time only pick those that are suited to the job and will invariably select some people that are not suited. Consequently there will be applicants that get through the tests etc but not make good gardai. By the same token the aptitude tests have eliminated some people that would have made excellent gardai but are not as suited to aptitude tests.

At the end of the day this is the system in place at the moment and people can only work within its parameters

Let's not turn this thread into another reserves vs the rest debate.

It's been done a thousands times before

Wannabegarda

Anyhows do you think that the 500 gards announced yesterday will be taken from out stage or will it be a fresh campaign.
http://www.joe.ie/news/get-the-cvs-ready-lads-the-gardai-will-be-recruiting-hundreds-of-people-next-year/511559

ollieo

Wannabegarda wrote: »

Where you in it Ollieo did you get through?

Had my meeting with Super today, waiting on PCT now.

Glantinegaels

Hi folks, new to the thread just wondering if any1 can answer 1 quick questions for me?
1. I have a level 6 on the national framework (carpentry & joinery) & a distincation in LCA which included Irish & French. Will that do me for my 2nd language or will I have to do a separate language exam if I get through stage 2?
Any help appreciated & best of luck with the results

Wannabegarda

Best bet is to contact garda human resources.

Copaholic

I would imagine that the 500 for next year will come from this campaign and possibly even some the year after. This campaign will continue to fill recruitment in Templemore until there are no more left. At that point recruitment will need to come from a new campaign which may start sooner than expected an possibly the end of next year.

Copaholic

In fact if I was a betting man Id say that you could expect to hear an announcement of a new campaign by Minister Fitzgerald coming up to election time next year-possibly around march. Lets see what happens

mycro89

Was just reading an article - only 94 passed out last week? I thought 100 were in that group, did 6 fail ? Drop out ?

Wannabegarda

Who cares....that's their problem...

mycro89

Wannabegarda wrote: »

Who cares....that's their problem...

I care as a tax payer........

AudiKid

mycro89 wrote: »

I care as a tax payer........

The chances are that they were either kicked out because they failed exams/ weren't good enough or just quit.

And yes, I also care

D Trent

AudiKid wrote: »

The chances are that they were either kicked out because they failed exams/ weren't good enough or just quit.

And yes, I also care

If they failed exams they'll be allowed repeat aspects of their training so it's not beyond possibility that next graduation could be 131 passing out as opposed to 125

Dublingirl88

D Trent wrote: »

If they failed exams they'll be allowed repeat aspects of their training so it's not beyond possibility that next graduation could be 131 passing out as opposed to 125

There's only 99 in the college now which is the July (152's) intake, they didn't get the 125 they wanted....