Bohemian FC 2014 Thread

Gavin "shels"

Someone posted in the LoI thread the other day that's the way it's looking. Do Sligo train in Dublin? Heary has 3 young kids so doubt moving West is an option.

Mongarra

I hope it doesn't come to his leaving. He has done an excellent job with the squad at his disposal.

Ditto on Roddy.

Gavin "shels"

I see the Sun are reporting Heary to Sligo on a 2 year deal, if the Sun report it it's as good enough as done.

GLaDOS

Can see us losing a chunk of our squad next season if Heary goes, back to square one again. ..

major bill

No great loss if he does leave, done a job that was expected of him I won't be shedding any tears.

As for the talk of Roddy.....jaysus:rolleyes:

GLaDOS

major bill wrote: »

No great loss if he does leave, done a job that was expected of him I won't be shedding any tears.

It's more that it's another interruption to the team. A new manager, new style, probably a good few players in and out again. Makes it hard to build on this season when we've to start all over again

BOHtox

He ultimately failed to build a rapport with the fans. He never acknowledged travelling fans after travelling to Cork or Derry or even making the trip to Dalyer. Rule number 1 from the Pat Fenlon school of managing is dragging every player over and applauding them. Fenlon built such a strong rapport with Bohs fans and there was such a good buzz around the club. Winning obviously helped but even in the last year the buzz was still there.

Heary never did that. He made some baffling decisions too. Not making substitutes, keeping Jayo on for way longer than he was fit to play etc. We had a good season ultimately but it's time for him to move on.

There's one name for the job and one name only imo.

Omackeral

And who's that? Is Mick Cooke around?!

Gavin "shels"

I'd say a lot of fans will be happy to see the back of Heary going by the treatment of some players, it actually might keep them at Dalymount.

BOHtox

Gavin shels wrote: »

I'd say a lot of fans will be happy to see the back of Heary going by the treatment of some players, it actually might keep them at Dalymount.

By keeping them out of the squad or worse than that?

dreamers75

If Sligo go part time, i doubt many players will travel down for an extra few quid.

Gavin "shels"

BOHtox wrote: »

By keeping them out of the squad or worse than that?

Worse. Picking on the younger lads, had a falling out with a few players even after Heary was given advanced notice they had academic things to do, and a few other bits.

Sacksian

Really hoping that Bohs don't just pick up another body from the LOI managerial roundabout - is it really that much of a benefit to have managed or played in the league??

I know there's no budget but, I think the fans have realistic expectations and maybe the club could have another go at giving someone a bit left-field time to build.

What would be the danger in taking time to identify, for example, the best Junior coaches out there? Someone who has the badges, a proven record, etc and would probably jump at the chance?

Why would that be more of a gamble than someone who has no badges but is being considered because they played for the club? Or someone who has managed 10 other clubs in 10 years?

sidcon

Sacksian wrote: »

Really hoping that Bohs don't just pick up another body from the LOI managerial roundabout - is it really that much of a benefit to have managed or played in the league??

I know there's no budget but, I think the fans have realistic expectations and maybe the club could have another go at giving someone a bit left-field time to build.

What would be the danger in taking time to identify, for example, the best Junior coaches out there? Someone who has the badges, a proven record, etc and would probably jump at the chance?

Why would that be more of a gamble than someone who has no badges but is being considered because they played for the club? Or someone who has managed 10 other clubs in 10 years?

That's fine but unlike other clubs we cannot afford to sack them if it goes wrong, I suspect we will be looking at someone that's free and out of work right now but I hope I'm wrong.

GLaDOS

It's hard to build when you're pretty much guaranteed to lose any player who performed particularly well during the season, see Callaghan's first season. Sure it looks like we're losing our manager after a half decent season.

Sacksian

ScienceNerd wrote: »

It's hard to build when you're pretty much guaranteed to lose any player who performed particularly well during the season, see Callaghan's first season. Sure it looks like we're losing our manager after a half decent season.

True - I just think it might be worth starting out with the understanding that you're going to lose very good players, and build that risk into an overall strategy, rather than going back to groundhog day with the same old faces. Although, to be fair, the high/player staff turnover is just a function of the short-term contracts that a lot of the clubs have to operate with because of the budgets - **** for everyone involved but probably unavoidable.

Heary going to Sligo just feels like more of the managerial roundabout mentality in the LOI (rather than him being poached) - it wouldn't have been the worst for him or for the fans/players/board to have some stability, another season and a bit of time to plan.

BOHtox

Be very interesting to see who the board pick. Roddy Collins, Bobby Browne, Tony Cousins, Johnny McDonnell, Brian Kerr, Dave Hill, Lawrie Sanchez? Just throwing out a few names and they either seem
a) Unispiring
b) Out of our league
c) No reason to leave their current club

Could well be another Aaron Callaghan type appointment. We're a big club though and I'm sure we'll get plenty of cvs in the door!

Omackeral

I saw Paul Doolin floating around Phibsboro the other day. Any chance he'd be up for it?

CSF

Omackeral wrote: »

I saw Paul Doolin floating around Phibsboro the other day. Any chance he'd be up for it?

He has a pretty cushy number with the Under 21s

Amirani

CSF wrote: »

He has a pretty cushy number with the Under 21s

Under 19s.

He's apparently very interested in returning to LOI management, but I doubt it'd be with Bohs.

major bill

I can't take the Doolins, Alan Matthews of this league, I'd be interested to see what names are thrown about.

Jason Byrne player/Manager anybody

CSF

major bill wrote: »

I can't take the Doolins, Alan Matthews of this league, I'd be interested to see what names are thrown about.

Jason Byrne player/Manager anybody

Has he any qualifications? Bit of a strange choice

Amirani

CSF wrote: »

Has he any qualifications? Bit of a strange choice

Wouldn't like Byrne myself. He doesn't have the appropriate qualifications in any case.

CSF

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Wouldn't like Byrne myself. He doesn't have the appropriate qualifications in any case.

Nobody without qualifications should even be discussed tbh

Omackeral

Bit random but anyone know if Kevin Hunt has done any training/coaching badges at all?

CSF

Omackeral wrote: »

Bit random but anyone know if Kevin Hunt has done any training/coaching badges at all?

You'd think there might be stuff paid for with the scouting work at the big clubs

major bill

Omackeral wrote: »

Bit random but anyone know if Kevin Hunt has done any training/coaching badges at all?

Now that would be the return of the Messiah

Scouting at Man City currently, Doubt he would be bothered.

BOHtox

Think the new manager would have a tough job keeping the squad together. There's about 12-16 players we have who I'd love to keep and that would mean only a further half dozen or so players to make up the squad. It may seem like a lot but relatively speaking in LOI terms it's absolutely nothing! Heary might have the advantage keeping Lopes, Moore, Beattie etc. He may also want to bring them to Sligo.

Is it a definite done deal?

Gavin "shels"

BOHtox wrote: »

Is it a definite done deal?

Neil O'Riordan and his brother Luke are Sun Sport journos, they're big Bohs fans and normally have great inside info and it was Neil who wrote the article. I'd imagine it's as good as done.

That_Guy

Wouldn't mind Keith Long or Mick Cooke personally.

GLaDOS

Owen confirmed gone by the club facebook. Had the chance to personally thank him tonight, and I'm really grateful. The man has given so much for our club and I wish him nothing but success for the future.

BlazingSaddler

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Owen confirmed gone by the club facebook. Had the chance to personally thank him tonight, and I'm really grateful. The man has given so much for our club and I wish him nothing but success for the future.

His speech at the end really annoyed me though, stating most of the players would be leaving as well, thought that was out of order, whether it's true or not.

GLaDOS

mattb74 wrote: »

His speech at the end really annoyed me though, stating most of the players would be leaving as well, thought that was out of order, whether it's true or not.

Yeah, bit of a weird way to say your final piece to the fans

That_Guy

In fairness to Heary, he's never been decent at PR. :pac:

Just speaking to my mate last night at the game. I'd love Brian Kerr in. Probably very wishful thinking.

DrumSteve

Lot of them chanting for roddy during the match last night.

Agree on the speech at the end though, wasnt great. Big reaction for jayo.

GLaDOS

Mick Cooke seems to be the name doing the rounds, wouldn't be the worst. Options are going to be pretty thin on the ground.

Omackeral

DrumSteve wrote: »

Lot of them chanting for roddy during the match last night.

Anyone but that chancer. Seriously. Heard a whisper that Keith Long may be in line.

DrumSteve

Omackeral wrote: »

Anyone but that chancer. Seriously. Heard a whisper that Keith Long may be in line.

What do you reckon about doolin? Kerr would be a great shout, but no chance.

Gavin "shels"

Rumours of Croly.

DrumSteve

Gavin shels wrote: »

Rumours of Croly.

Good god,no.

BOHtox

Croly would never work. Didn't hear him being mentioned at all tbh. Heard strong rumours of Cooke and a few whispers of Long.

super_furry

Please let it be Roddy. Just for the comedy value.

Omackeral

DrumSteve wrote: »

What do you reckon about doolin? Kerr would be a great shout, but no chance.

Yeah wouldn't say no to him. Saw him knocking around Phibsboro last week but could just be a coincidence.

Cooke: a decent shout too for my money.
Roddy: wouldn't like it personally.
Croly : No way.
Long : Wouldn't be the worst.
Barraclough : Anyone know what he's up to?

BOHtox

My order of preference of the main three managers linked to be coming in is
1: Roddy
2: Long
3: Cooke

Hopefully one can be appointed within the next few days and they can start rebuilding the squad

GLaDOS

I'll support whoever comes in as manager, but I have to say the intensity of the clamour for Roddy on the supporters forum is a little terrifying.

That_Guy

ScienceNerd wrote: »

I'll support whoever comes in as manager, but I have to say the intensity of the clamour for Roddy on the supporters forum is a little terrifying.

In fairness pal, it's been like this all season. I would rather do without him tbh.

miroslavklose

CSF wrote: »

Nobody without qualifications should even be discussed tbh

"I'm sorry Mr Zidane, but you're just not what we're looking for right now."

Omackeral

As That Guy and SN have alluded to, I'd be less than happy with Roddy coming in. I wouldn't turn my back to him or anything but I wouldn't be singing his name either.

Chatting to an Athlone FC season ticket holder yesterday and he said Keith Long to Bohs is being spouted over there quite a bit.

CSF

miroslavklose wrote: »

"I'm sorry Mr Zidane, but you're just not what we're looking for right now."

Maybe when the ban is over

Corholio

How did Beattie do for ye this season? Word is he's coming to Cork. Have to say I didnt hear too many Bohs fans praising him throughout the course of the season, and he seems like a utility player, which is what we don't need next season. But interested to know anyway!