Arsenal vs Bayern Munich, 7:45, RTE2

Ardent

Dunphy is either drunk or he watched a completely different game

Alpha Dog 1

Ludicrous statement from Giles!

niallo27

Soups123 wrote: »

Yep his decision to have Chez sent off was a bad one

His decision not to buy a striker was a disgrace. A young fella up front in the biggest game of the year.

G1032

awec wrote: »

You caused Bayern problems for the first 10 minutes but they were in control of the majority of this game including a large portion of it before the red card.

The red card and Bayern penalty hardly came against the run of play.

You watched a different game to me so if you think Arsenal caused problems for only 10 minutes

awec

Also, the more replays I see the more I am convinced it is a red card. He would have got that no problem.

gandalf

Ardent wrote: »

Dunphy is either drunk or he watched a completely different game

Well what does his normal form say

awec

G1032 wrote: »

You watched a different game to me so if you think Arsenal caused problems for only 10 minutes

Arsenal were on top for the first 10 minutes or so.

The way people are talking here you'd think that the red card turned the game on its head. Fantasy stuff.

Marty McFly

awec wrote: »

You caused Bayern problems for the first 10 minutes but they were in control of the majority of this game including a large portion of it before the red card.

The red card and Bayern penalty hardly came against the run of play.

I'm not buying that at all not even one little bit, it took a red card for Bayern to gain control.

Yes there were portions were they pressed but just as much so did Arsenal up until the red card everytime Arsenal broke and Ox got on the ball Bayern looked scared and fragile certainly not an unbeatable team.

Hank Scorpio

niallo27 wrote: »

His decision not to buy a striker was a disgrace. A young fella up front in the biggest game of the year.

Agree with this, will cost them any league chances too

klose

Ardent wrote: »

Dunphy is either drunk or he watched a completely different game

Standard stuff so

Johner

Toni Kroos, what a ****ing player.

Moneymaker

super_furry wrote: »

Wenger's out of ideas and is holding Arsenal back at this stage.

If you're gonna troll at least do a decent job of it.

Arsenal were the better side until the red card and his decision to select Sanogo was vindicated imo. Giroud given his abysmal form lately wouldn't have done any better.

Nonsense statement. And i'm no Arsenal fan.

Soups123

niallo27 wrote: »

His decision not to buy a striker was a disgrace. A young fella up front in the biggest game of the year.

It's disaponting alright but it wasn't the cause of defeat tonight. Sanogo did well while it was 11v11

bad2dabone

niallo27 wrote: »

His decision not to buy a striker was a disgrace. A young fella up front in the biggest game of the year.

can't disagree with you there, we really should have invested in a forward. the only mitigating circumstance is top level strikers are hard to get and very pricey.
Having said that I would have expected a player with a bit of experience to be signed in the jan window.
Sanogo though looks like a prospect at least.

Quazzie

awec wrote: »

Arsenal were on top for the first 10 minutes or so.

The way people are talking here you'd think that the red card turned the game on its head. Fantasy stuff.

Bizarre to say that the red card didn't change the game drastically.

wandatowell

I think Redknapp what's a go off the touch screen tv

AdamD

Kroos was amazing tonight

cson

awec wrote: »

Arsenal were on top for the first 10 minutes or so.

The way people are talking here you'd think that the red card turned the game on its head. Fantasy stuff.

It was a red, but Arsenal were well in it up until then. Saw a graphic around the half hour mark that had both teams at 5 shots 4 on target.

SEPT 23 1989

Dunphy slurring a bit alright

awec

Quazzie wrote: »

Bizarre to say that the red card didn't change the game drastically.

What, of course it changed the game. Arsenal went down to 10 men, nobody has disputed that.

But this notion that Arsenal were all over Bayern until the red card is absolute fantasy stuff. Bayern were already on top of Arsenal before the red card happened, the red card just increased their control.

niallo27

Soups123 wrote: »

It's disaponting alright but it wasn't the cause of defeat tonight. Sanogo did well while it was 11v11

When you are down to 10 you need someone to hold the ball up and give defenders a break. He was never going do this. Feel sorry for the lad really.

G1032

awec wrote: »

Arsenal were on top for the first 10 minutes or so.

The way people are talking here you'd think that the red card turned the game on its head. Fantasy stuff.

Oh right, ya.......

cson

awec wrote: »

What, of course it changed the game. Arsenal went down to 10 men, nobody has disputed that.

But this notion that Arsenal were all over Bayern until the red card is absolute fantasy stuff. Bayern were already on top of Arsenal before the red card happened, the red card just increased their control.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that Arsenal were flogging them. It was 50/50 up to the sending off imo.

Moneymaker

awec wrote: »

What, of course it changed the game. Arsenal went down to 10 men, nobody has disputed that.

But this notion that Arsenal were all over Bayern until the red card is absolute fantasy stuff. Bayern were already on top of Arsenal before the red card happened, the red card just increased their control.

Arsenal had shaded it imo. Both sides had good spells and Arsenal arguably had the better chances. Bayern were at sea in midfield 11 v 11 and only started to dictate when they had more space.

niallo27

bad2dabone wrote: »

can't disagree with you there, we really should have invested in a forward. the only mitigating circumstance is top level strikers are hard to get and very pricey.
Having said that I would have expected a player with a bit of experience to be signed in the jan window.
Sanogo though looks like a prospect at least.

Berbatov for half a season maybe.

Nuri Sahin

"The ball was coming down like a butterfly with sore feet" - Redknapp

cson

niallo27 wrote: »

When you are down to 10 you need someone to hold the ball up and give defenders a break. He was never going do this. Feel sorry for the lad really.

Drogba aside, I can't think of any striker that would've managed that tonight. Suarez maybe from a harrying and chasing point of view.

Wolf Club

Having only 1 sub going into the second half didn't help Arsenal either. I was really hoping to see Podolski and Giroud as well as Rosicky.

Soups123

niallo27 wrote: »

When you are down to 10 you need someone to hold the ball up and give defenders a break. He was never going do this. Feel sorry for the lad really.

Tbh we had so little of the ball and when we did it wasn't played his way to hold up. It's not as if it came his way and he was losing it .

It's a bigger problem for the domestic games

Skylinehead

niallo27 wrote: »

His decision not to buy a striker was a disgrace. A young fella up front in the biggest game of the year.

He was absolutely fine until the red card, at which point Giroud wouldn't have done any more. No service after that.

Who should he have bought then, o sage?

wonderfullife

Given all the circumstances involved and how the game unfolded....fair play to Arsenal. Dug in really well.

First goal crucial in the Allianz.

Amirani

Giles has talked about this penalty ****e before. He doesn't have a clue.

cson

Hmm Arsene, think saying we should have been 3 up is a bit dramatic.

Criticized Ozils penalty. Taking our penalty concession well.

Much more measured than Pellegrini anyway.

awec

Surprised that Wenger commented on the penalty style to be honest.

I think the missed penalty really knocked the stuffing out of Ozil.

Godge

niallo27 wrote: »

Berbatov for half a season maybe.

Berbatov? You are having a laugh. His legs are gone.

Maybe his FIFA stats are still ok though.

Soft Falling Rain

Bill: Could a case be made that Wenger is a one dimensional manager John?

Giles: I don't know what you're on about Bill. *cue Johnny going off on one*

Bill O'Herlihy, schooling us all in the art of trolling.

Skylinehead

awec wrote: »

I think the missed penalty really knocked the stuffing out of Ozil.

Did it though? He was a left back for the second half, and the stats don't support a perceived lack of effort. Sure he was poor, but we had nothing going forward after the red card.

wandatowell

awec wrote: »

Surprised that Wenger commented on the penalty style to be honest.

I think the missed penalty really knocked the stuffing out of Ozil.

Live interview on tv, he wouldn't refuse to answer the question. Sky were looking for something to fill their news headlines tomorrow morning. Thought he handled it well.

cson

Interesting seeing Flamini bollocking Ozil there and Ballack saying he should be untouchable.

I wouldn't agree. No man is bigger than the team.

niallo27

Godge wrote: »

Berbatov? You are having a laugh. His legs are gone.

Maybe his FIFA stats are still ok though.

Better than no one though.

Quazzie

niallo27 wrote: »

Better than no one though.

So now Sanogo is no one?

cson

Carragher almost suggesting we should throw the return leg. Mental.

Agueroooo

Wtf ?

https://t.co/1f5lPKRces

Quazzie

cson wrote: »

Carragher almost suggesting we should throw the return leg. Mental.

Weird hearing that coming from a guy that was down 3-0 down at half time in the final. Surely he, more than most should in the 'never give up' brigade.

niallo27

Quazzie wrote: »

So now Sanogo is no one?

Well if your serious about winning things then yes he is a no one.

monkey9

It was definitely just sweat dripping from Robben onto Sagna. He didn't spit on him.

Soups123

niallo27 wrote: »

Well if your serious about winning things then yes he is a no one.

Same way Anelka was

Quazzie

niallo27 wrote: »

Well if your serious about winning things then yes he is a no one.

You must be really good to be able to come to such an informed opinion after just two games.

niallo27

Quazzie wrote: »

You must be really good to be able to come to such an informed opinion after just two games.

Do you think he is good enough.

Colonialboy

Flamini would have been better off aking care of his own game rather than ranting at the rest of the tem.

He lost his man for both goals..