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thewobbler wrote: »I like a flat links myself Fixed. I like all golf courses.
But I think it's only fair to call a spade a spade, and as a golfing experience, Baltray doesn't match the expectations that rankings create.
To rephrase my point on golf rankings - if Baltray was genuinely marked in the same way as Druids Glen or Headfort New according to Golf Digest's criteria, then it's going to lose at least 1 mark to each in the categories of scenery (Baltray has 1 outstanding view, while the parklands are immense walks through the country), design variety (every possible challenge is there on the parklands, Baltray without wind has about 6 long straight 440 yard par 4s), condition (all are good, Druids is best) and playability (Headfort is genuinely playable off the front tees for anyone, and challenging for anyone off the backs), and at least 2 marks in terms of memorability (I can still remember 14-15 holes in both parklands and haven't visited in 3 years, while I can remember maybe 5 holes in Baltray).
That's a lot of marks to make back on shotmaking/variety, let alone enough to push it 30-odd places higher in the final rankings. So in my mind, the high ranking of Baltray is false: it's a biased preference for old school golf.
I'd have to agree with your logic.
When I look at rankings - I look at Links List - Parkland List.
It seems - the prestige - history - tourist attraction , adds to the markings.
I'd still rather play a top links than - the two courses you mentioned , but that is just me.
I guess this is a debate for rankings - This is The Links Thread - we don't mention parks here
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Not quite what we are used to here - Whistling Straits in Wisconsin - venue for next year's PGA and for the 2020 Ryder Cup.
Unfortunately was just passing through on the way to Green Bay so didn't have time to shell out the $370 for a round :eek:
That said, if I'd the time to enjoy a round there I think I'd be tempted, it looked unreal.
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Kevinmarkham wrote: »Not at all, Fix - not a question of money, simply a matter of trying to add in a practice area (holes 3 and 4 are to become the practice range) which RCD lacks, and the fact that the new holes are in the biggest and most spectacular dunes. The three new holes completely surround the dune I took the photograph from. I'll put up shots of the other two holes in due course. They will add length, but not a lot. Pars 4, 4 and 3 and they will be the new 9th, 10th and 11th.
The big course has stayed very much the same and won't be touched (unlike Rosses Point) so they rarely tinker with it, but they saw an opportunity to make Annesley better than it already is... sorry you feel your best golf was wasted on it - I think it's the trickiest short course in the country and the greens are like velvet. I love it.
There are no changes planned whatsoever for the big course for the Irish Open.
I love Annesley Links too - I guess I would have loved to play like that on big course next day.
Would love to hit low 80s - 80 on RCD. In dream land, break 80 - but on that course you are one shot away from a double or worse. This risk is on every hole.
A couple of lads on here have had mid 70 rounds - class stuff lads - one on his first round
Plan on heading up in winter (maybe) - but I hear prices are going up in 2015 - it is mad money to play the place. £185 (sterling) - A 4 ball £740 - they were packed out the gate at that rate when I was there.
May stick it up here, head up in November - stay over and play next day - I'd say it can be wild up there then - but there are lads on here would play in anything.
The Annesley is a class little course - could see the members and younger lads use it as practice , I was just thinking imagine this is your practice course. Absolute heaven.
Could see an older gent well in eighties milling balls down the first as practice (had a few pints with him that night) - yes, is strange they don't have a practice range. But, you could argue - why on earth would you practice when you can go out and play RCD - practice would be a waist of rounds.
Maybe the best practice for real links golf - is to play links golf
But that is another days debate.
On the money thing Kevin - at that green fee rate - they must have money they don't know what to do with.
In the long run - would they now have their eye on The Big One - The Open Championship.
Anyway - class place , a place I'll be back to every 2nd year to come.0 -
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FixdePitchmark wrote: »Great call Ronney - sounds a plan.
Love RCD - but to pay full fees is a source of madness even if you "have" the money.
That's the beauty of RCD - you don't need to play in peak season to play this course at its best. I've played in Feb, March and Nov and had fantastic conditions. And only one of those times was I off the forward tees. No mats in winter. You could probably book 2 to 3 days ahead when you have some inkling of what the weather is doing, and play it for £50 - £60.
I'd probably pay £50 to play the 9th hole alone:
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Just after finishing up in Corballis
I've played there with Fix a good few times and have learned my lesson the hard way.
However, once you figure out the right club (subject to the wind) it makes it a lot less of a struggle.
Every hole has a large enough landing zone... with the right club.
Irons of every tee today bar 15 (hybrid) and 16 (driver). Took a 7i off the tee on the index 1 3rd and walked away with par. Not many holes where you take a 7i, hybrid, wedge in that order!!!
No lost balls today either
Went around in 79 (13 over) and putted as badly as I have done in a while.
2 costly doubles and a treble ruined a very good card, all from going through the green and into cabbage
Was reminded that I had some 2's money when booking. Over €50 was a nice little bonus from 2 previous rounds.
Fix should do tours of the place.
Agree with the extra yardage comment from Mike, it's a couple of par 5 's and a couple of longer par 4's away from being a match for anywhere.0 -
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