The Road to the Ryder Cup 2014

Dealerz

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

He started off with a bad speech.

Wasn't a big deal but when things went bad . The media turned on him and he could do no right.

I've heard a few players saying they liked some of the ideas he had.

unusual character.

He lost. If he won he would have been an eccentric genius.

The point I'm making is. Nobody could have taken that us team The way they played.

Eccentric is a word, arrogant and pompous are two other words, socially inept is also a phrase! However having said all that, he was a bloody good golfer and Ryder cup player, so he deserved his captaincy.

Ronney

Synode wrote: »

Can you give us a summary of those reasons? Wasn't as into golf back then so don't understand

Tried to turn it into the Nick Faldo Show! wasn't and still isn't really that in touch with the European Tour.
Cant remember exactly but of the top of my head something like this
Spent half the opening ceremony talking about his family...irreverent stuff like his sons school grades.

When introducing the players got Soren Hensons name wrong (looked as if he genuinely didnt know who he was. Tried to get one of the single players a date and some stupid potato comment about Gmac.

His list of pairings was caught on camera and he tried some bsh1t excuse about it being sambo orders for lunch

Google faldo speech

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/golf/rydercup/3024134/Ryder-Cup-Europe-captain-Nick-Faldo-fails-to-impress-at-competition-opening-ceremony-Golf.html

FixdePitchmark

Ok.

Good question.

How far would you have to go back to get a normal bloke that was captain.

Typically they are not normal lads. That is why you are a top sports star.
A little unhinged seems to be the way.

Think I'm thinking one normal lad in what 20 years.

Seve OB

Ronney wrote: »

When introducing the players got Soren Hensons name wrong (looked as if he genuinely didnt know who he was.

Oh the irony

You mean Soren Hansen ? :rolleyes:

Ronney

stevieob wrote: »

Oh the irony

You mean Soren Hansen ? :rolleyes:

Yea thats the won, my spellling is not the best....least I didnt call him Stenson

Seve OB

Ronney wrote: »

Yea thats the won, my spellling is not the best....least I didnt call him Stenson

I spotted that I'm only having the craic :pac:

Trampas

Great tactics by Westwood and gallacher. Playing crap to give USA false sense they'll be chicken feed to them

Slicemeister

Trampas wrote: »

Great tactics by Westwood and gallacher. Playing crap to give USA false sense they'll be chicken feed to them

Pity Bjorn isn't in that bracket.

stitcheddepin

it will make for a very interesting weekend of golf, depending on who gets paired against who for honours in my opinion. Europes top seeds ( rory, Sergio, Justin, martin, Jamie(outplaying victor this weather) and henrik) would/will outmuscle US ( fat phil, jimmy, jim, rickie, jordan and kuch).
the rest could just as easily f**k a point away as win it.
it will be closer than people expect

Mushy

This time next week we shall all be stuck on the couch for over an hour!

ForeRight

This has probably been asked already but how do they pick who plays who in the matches?

Rikand

ForeRight wrote: »

This has probably been asked already but how do they pick who plays who in the matches?

As in who plays against who ?

Paul selects the players he wants and in the order he wants them to play in.
Tom will do the same.

Then they'll match their lists up and there's your order.

PARlance

ForeRight wrote: »

This has probably been asked already but how do they pick who plays who in the matches?

The singles is a lottery in the sense that both captains list their team in order 1-12 in the order they will play without knowing the order of the other team.

With the team matches I think the away captain gets to see the pairings and order of the home team and can match up his team against them then. Not 100% on that.

Seve OB

PARlance wrote: »

The singles is a lottery in the sense that both captains list their team in order 1-12 in the order they will play without knowing the order of the other team.

With the team matches I think the away captain gets to see the pairings and order of the home team and can match up his team against them then. Not 100% on that.

no your wrong there, nobody gets to see any pairings. captains list the pairings in their order of preference and that's that!

GenuineFan

Mushy, I won't be on the couch, coz I'll be there :D:D

OneColdHand

GenuineFan wrote: »

Mushy, I won't be on the couch, coz I'll be there :D:D

Hey, I managed to get some last minute tickets. Just trying to sort out transport out from Edinburgh, but the buses seem to be sold out, and the trains have stopped selling tickets. Do you happen to know of any public transport that has tickets still available?

GenuineFan

We are staying in Dundee and have traIn tickets. On the ryder cup website there is a travel section, email them.

Mushy

GenuineFan wrote: »

Mushy, I won't be on the couch, coz I'll be there :D:D

La de Da! Very jealous!

I think the match is going to finish 14-14. Hopefully by Friday I'll be off the fence.

GenuineFan

Thanks for taking the remark in the spirit it was meant.

Ya, my husband and I are going. I applied for the tickets, not thinking I would get them. We got 2 days, Thursday (practice day and opening ceremony) and Friday (first match day). Would have preferred 2 match days but beggars can't be choosers. Looking forward to it now.

Mushy

GenuineFan wrote: »

Thanks for taking the remark in the spirit it was meant.

Ya, my husband and I are going. I applied for the tickets, not thinking I would get them. We got 2 days, Thursday (practice day and opening ceremony) and Friday (first match day). Would have preferred 2 match days but beggars can't be choosers. Looking forward to it now.

Here for a common goal we are!

A practice day is actually nearly better, you get to see so much more. I was at it in the K Club, parents took me and getting to see the players up so close, especially Woods. Enjoy it all!

Speak Now

More brutal stuff from Westwood today.

SnowDrifts

Ryder Cup Live show on Sky Sports right now if anyone is interested...

SnowDrifts

*mod delete pls

fred funk }{

Montgomery really is an unlikeable chap.

Rikand

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

More brutal stuff from Westwood today.

He's appalling! He better deliver next week or else....

abff

Rikand wrote: »

He's appalling! He better deliver next week or else....

You know what. The funny thing is that he probably will deliver. Not that I would have picked him ahead of Donald, I'm just saying....

Boskowski

Not sure what you guys think but I think the Ryder Cup is being totally overhyped now. I understand there is no World Cup or Olympics or such and its the only thing that stands out a bit from the usual weekly tournament schedule with exception of the majors.

But its beginning to become a bit of a pain. The stately gravitas intro music. The Road to the Ryder Cup. The week of the Ryder Cup. The opening of the Ryder Cup. Weeks of How the Ryder Cup Was Won. The endless sh1tetalk sessions. All telling us how enormous and historical all this is. Ah for gods sake, talking about 1st world problems...

I think they're running the risk of overhyping it to the ridiculous. For me personally the Ryder Cup ranks just above a run of the mill weekly tournament in terms of interest. Below the big ones like Wentworth or the WGC and definitely below the majors by a mile. I will have a look as I do most weekends but I won't be glued to the box. Don't really care who wins either.

What do you guys think?

abff

Boskowski wrote: »

Not sure what you guys think but I think the Ryder Cup is being totally overhyped now at this stage. I understand there is no World Cup or Olympics or such and its the only thing that stands out a bit from the usual weekly tournament schedule with exception of the majors.

But its beginning to become a bit of a pain. The stately gravitas intro music. The Road to the Ryder Cup. The week of the Ryder Cup. The opening of the Ryder Cup. Weeks of How the Ryder Cup Was Won. The endless sh1tetalk sessions. All telling us how enormous and historical all this is. Ah for gods sake, talking about 1st world problems...

I think they're running the risk of overhyping it to the ridiculous. For me personally the Ryder Cup ranks just above a run of the mill weekly tournament in terms of interest. Below the big ones like Wentworth or the WGC and definitely below the majors by a mile. I will have a look as I do most weekends but I won't be glued to the box. Don't really care who wins either.

What do you guys think?

I agree that the hype from Sky is completely overdone. But I still think there's something visceral about the Ryder Cup that creates a unique atmosphere for a golf tournament.

I've never attended a major, but I've been to several golf tournaments in Ireland and one in Portugal and I've also been to two Ryder cups - in 2006 in the K Club and in 2008 in Valhalla. The atmosphere at both Ryder Cups was just electric - real make the hair on the back of your neck stand up stuff.

PARlance

Agree it's overhyped but that'll all be forgotten by the time the weekend is over!

Speak Now

Tom Watson is an absolute legend, those pampered millionares better not let him down!

FixdePitchmark

No Republic of Irish player on team - is a major downer for me. I know that is just me - I guess Paul being captain adds a bit to it. But if Paul wasn't captain - I'd be almost up for the yanks.

I've no affiliation with a European team. Like lads drunk shouting "EEEEEUUUUUROOOOPE" . What is that about ?

In fact I really like some of the american lads. We basically watch more and more American golf now. The Euro Tour is for the real die hards. Even the top European players - don't play in Europe. In the past - it was like one Tour versus another - the game has changed a good bit.

Yes I'll be up for Europe and all that - but looking at the team - besides Mcilroy - Dubisson - I have to say Garcia - they are not not the most exciting bunch outside of them - are they ? and 2 of the 3 I mentioned there do themselves no favours sometimes.

As an example look at the team from 1991 - I can't put my finger on it - but seems to have more character and lads you would go out of your way to watch - not just watch, actually support. Like you don't hear too many lads saying they are a Stenson fan.

I think the lads are almost becoming machine like - it is the professionalism of the sport.
The one thing good about the Ryder Cup - is brings them outside of their comfort zone - that is interesting , so they actually show a bit of emotion.

England Nick Faldo ^
Northern Ireland David Feherty
Scotland Colin Montgomerie
Spain José María Olazábal ^
England Steven Richardson
Spain Seve Ballesteros
Wales Ian Woosnam
England Paul Broadhurst
Scotland Sam Torrance
England Mark James ^
Germany Bernhard Langer
England David Gilford

LinksLad

If you blood is not fired up by now, might I just remind you that Eastenders, Coronation Street and Emmerdale are still on this week.

Your choice...

Seve OB

Boskowski wrote: »

Not sure what you guys think but I think the Ryder Cup is being totally overhyped now. I understand there is no World Cup or Olympics or such and its the only thing that stands out a bit from the usual weekly tournament schedule with exception of the majors.

But its beginning to become a bit of a pain. The stately gravitas intro music. The Road to the Ryder Cup. The week of the Ryder Cup. The opening of the Ryder Cup. Weeks of How the Ryder Cup Was Won. The endless sh1tetalk sessions. All telling us how enormous and historical all this is. Ah for gods sake, talking about 1st world problems...

I think they're running the risk of overhyping it to the ridiculous. For me personally the Ryder Cup ranks just above a run of the mill weekly tournament in terms of interest. Below the big ones like Wentworth or the WGC and definitely below the majors by a mile. I will have a look as I do most weekends but I won't be glued to the box. Don't really care who wins either.

What do you guys think?

I disagree with you. So what if they hype it up? Sure don't they hype everything up.... If you have no interest in it thats fine, don't watch it. lots of stuff gets hyped up that I have no interest in, but I don't care. I think the hype has been great and it has made a tournament I have always adored, even more amazing by generating so much more interest. How can that be a bad thing?

I for one love the Ryder Cup. It's my favourite golf tournament, but I realise what it is and what it's not. It's not a major, it not a normal event, it's not WGC, it's not a World ranking event.

It's FUN.

A few years ago, Rory considered it almost an intrusion on his calendar. Ask him now......... He has been there and been part of it and realised this is more than a golf tournament. How many times do we get to see golf played like this? Actually every week all around the country in events like the Barton Cup, Pierce Purcell etc..... So really and truly this is how golf is played on a regular basis in a club environment. But at the highest level? Once every 2 years is not a lot to ask is it, of course in between there is the Presidents Cup and the Seve Trophy, but they are much much lower key. This is the biggie.

Sure give him the option, Rory will want to win a major over the Ryder Cup any day. A few weeks ago he was asked, €10m or the Ryder cup and he said the Ryder Cup, and I believe he genuinely meant it. Of course he wan't to win tournaments moreso, but he doesn't need the money.

Golf is a mean individual sport and I think it's great to see the lads getting together and doing something different, it gives them a release from the norm. A chance to let the hair down, while doing something semi-serious and have a party. We all need a release don't we?

Boskowski

Sorry Stevie but there's nothing to agree or disagree with. I'm not looking for an argument just for opinions. How does it rank with people personally.

On the Rory 10m or the Ryder Cup thing. :pac: ye right. It's a media question and a media answer. What else was he going to say?

Seve OB

Boskowski wrote: »

Sorry Stevie but there's nothing to agree or disagree with. I'm not looking for an argument just for opinions. How does it rank with people personally.

On the Rory 10m or the Ryder Cup thing. :pac: ye right. It's a media question and a media answer. What else was he going to say?

no, I know you are only looking for opinion and not an argument... just my opinion and I know most people don't like the Ryder Cup as It's not real golf and I do appreciate that, but I do like the way it is just a bit different to a regular event, it brings a bit of colour, excitement and cheer to the course that we would not normally see.

On the Rory thing, I know he wanted the Fed Ex cup win more than the Ryder cup and he would happily swap, but the money means nothing to him, and I know for a fact that he loves the Ryder Cup experience.

First Up

stevieob wrote: »

no, I know you are only looking for opinion and not an argument... just my opinion and I know most people don't like the Ryder Cup as It's not real golf and I do appreciate that, but I do like the way it is just a bit different to a regular event, it brings a bit of colour, excitement and cheer to the course that we would not normally see.

On the Rory thing, I know he wanted the Fed Ex cup win more than the Ryder cup and he would happily swap, but the money means nothing to him, and I know for a fact that he loves the Ryder Cup experience.

I'm not crazy about Sky's over-hyping myself, but I don't think it is accurate to say most people don't like the Ryder Cup, or that it is not "real" golf. It is very real and it is great theater.

I've been to three of them (Brookline, Belfry and K Club) and while I wouldn't bother going to another, I will certainly watch as much of it as I can.

Synode

I have always loved and will always love the Ryder Cup. Great entertainment

Seve OB

maybe not most, but there are certainly a lot... i'm obviously not one of them

Rikand

Yes its overhyped

But i will watch every second of it that I can and I CANNOT wait for it to start

charlieIRL

Can we keep all future Ryder Cup posts here from now on please?