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What does the term "up to 70Mhz" actually mean?

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  • 25-02-2014 2:27pm
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    michaelotoole
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭


    I've ordered efibre but it now appears that the term "up to 70Mhz" doesn't guarantee any lower limit but does set the monthly cost... In the event of the download speed never exceeding (for example), 30Mhz, will I be billed for the 30Mhz service?

    Mike


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    eircom: Alan
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    michaelotoole wrote: »
    I've ordered efibre but it now appears that the term "up to 70Mhz" doesn't guarantee any lower limit but does set the monthly cost... In the event of the download speed never exceeding (for example), 30Mhz, will I be billed for the 30Mhz service?

    Mike

    Hi michaelotoole

    The term is up to 70MB and the term 'up to' means speeds of a maximum of 70MB. If you experience average speeds of 30MB the price does not change as it still falls under the terms of 'up to'. Before ordering you will be given an indication on what speeds to expect however this indication would not be a specific guarantee.

    The is industry terminology and procedure as speeds will vary from user to user depending on distance from exchange or Cabinet in the case of fibre.

    Thanks

    Al


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    michaelotoole
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭michaelotoole


    Thanks for that Al...

    Just realised I typed Mhz in stead of MB... even engineers make mistakes... ;)

    It appears there's a cabinet ~200 meters away, so looking good...
    Mike


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    eircom: Alan
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    michaelotoole wrote: »
    Thanks for that Al...

    Just realised I typed Mhz in stead of MB... even engineers make mistakes... ;)

    It appears there's a cabinet ~200 meters away, so looking good...
    Mike
    Hi michaelotoole

    I've made much worse mistakes myslelf so no worries on that ;)

    Yes, 200 meters is a good sign

    Al


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    michaelotoole
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭michaelotoole


    Spotted a new cabinet 20 meters from me...  it appears to be an eFibre type as identified by the picture in the first post of the "Eircom Fibre Rollout Mapping" thread.... a classic case of 'wood for the trees' ;)

    Mike


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    michaelotoole
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭michaelotoole


    Installed this morning and working a treat.... 67MB/17MB so pretty close....

    Now if we only had fibre to the door... Attainable Net Data Rate: 28.804 Mbps 96.232 Mbps (was over 100MB on first test)...


    Complements on the installation crew... nice bunch of guys...

    @Alan... can I ask two quick questions via PM?


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    eircom: Alan
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    michaelotoole wrote: »
    Installed this morning and working a treat.... 67MB/17MB so pretty close....

    Now if we only had fibre to the door... Attainable Net Data Rate:     28.804 Mbps       96.232 Mbps  (was over 100MB on first test)...


    Complements on the installation crew... nice bunch of guys...

    @Alan... can I ask two quick questions via PM?
    Glad to hear this Michael

    Sure PM away :)

    Al


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    michaelotoole
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭michaelotoole


    When viewing connection status/system monitor in browser, my connection drops out regularly... only for a second or two but nevertheless it happens... Is this normal?

    Sorry for bothering you, I would have posted in general forum if I cold find one specific to eircom  broadband | fibre...
    It's not a major concern but if you get some a chance...
    Mike


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    longhalloween
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    eircom: Alan wrote: »
    Hi michaelotoole

    The term is up to 70MB and the term 'up to' means speeds of a maximum of 70MB. If you experience average speeds of 30MB the price does not change as it still falls under the terms of 'up to'. Before ordering you will be given an indication on what speeds to expect however this indication would not be a specific guarantee.
    Alan, please remember that speeds are not measured in MB (Mega Bytes) but Mb (Mega bits). 70Mb broadband is about 9MB. 


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    michaelotoole
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭michaelotoole


    It's my mistake... I could blame the keyboard but it's just me forgetting things... I rarely deal in bits so I automatically use MB for both... from now on I will use Mb for bits... ;)


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    longhalloween
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    michaelotoole wrote: »
    It's my mistake... Alan's already mentioned that... I could blame the keyboard but it's just me forgetting things... I haven't come across the abbreviation too often so I automatically use MB for both... from now on I will use Mb for bits... ;)
    It was Alan's mistake. People sometimes mistake the capital B (byte) for the small b (bit). Megabits is usually a measure of bandwidth, and MegaBytes is a measure of data transfer. 

    Since there's typically 8 bits in a byte it looks better in advertising to use Megabits because you can use a bigger number. (70 instead of 9) :)


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    michaelotoole
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭michaelotoole


    Actually that a very good point.... I never though of that... it does look a lot more...
    But I should know better I'm an old engineer who still get confused when it comes to Mhz, MB and Mb ;)


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    Carawaystick
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    It's fairly certain that "up to X" in an ad means "definitely less than X"

    for any company, offering any service or good. 


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    Philm_12
    Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭Philm_12


    I'm paying for "up to 24 Mb" Broadband Advanced Unlimited. 
    Speed test this evening - 3.50 Mbps
    I think that in most businesses, this would be called misleading marketing.   


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    michaelotoole
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭michaelotoole


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    After dark and early morning (when most people sleep), mine almost makes the 70Mbs so I best not complain... (efibre 70Mb unlimited)...

    That was the best yet but all other tests averaged ~67Mb
    I estimate I'm about 175 meters from the cabinet...


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