iZombie [The CW] [** Spoilers **]

CastorTroy

Says a lot that we cared about a character after only a few episodes.
Didn't realise she was Charlotte in The 100 or young Kara in Supergirl. I know she's still young but after her appearance in iZombie and having been in those other 2 shows, I'd be surprised if she doesn't get a main role in a CW series soon. Though looks like she has a steady role on The Fosters

For Peyton, all the goodbyes made me think she'll be captured.

CastorTroy

Don't think I saw this here before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YccfucaemNs

JP Liz V1

CastorTroy wrote: »

Probably be the last season going by this tweet

https://twitter.com/RobThomas/status/994219177362640902

Yes 5th season will be the last

http://tvline.com/2018/05/17/izombie-final-season-5-the-cw-ending-cancelled/

flazio

I'm not sad about it. It was a good series that's had its time and at least the writers have a chance to wrap it up neatly

pixelburp

5 seasons seems about right; there's only so much story you can get out of a concept before you're just going in circles. The fourth season & the reveal of zombies to the general public was a huge bell to ring; once it happened, it was arguable the whole narrative went on a clock, because clearly everyone's going to look to a resolution one way or the other.

I think if the writers have a chance to wrap things up and tie up loose ends in a satisfactory end, the word 'cancelled' seems a little overly harsh.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Caught up on about 5 episodes over the weekend, having fallen behind, and just watched the Season Finale.

Good stuff overall - I enjoyed how much more serialized it became towards the end of the season and the brain-of-the-week stuff was more or less dropped or mostly sidelined. Will be interesting to see how the final season plays out.

Also, Paul Rudd... That's a good get.

CastorTroy

Wow, Liv is completely selfish. After Dale and Clive went to the bother of writing vows, Liv just turns around and makes them mean less.

Blazer

CastorTroy wrote: »

Wow, Liv is completely selfish. After Dale and Clive went to the bother of writing vows, Liv just turns around and makes them mean less.

I think they’d be ok with that

FreudianSlippers

Thought it was interesting that Ravi pointed out there isn't enough of the cure - a lot of place-setting for the final season, but I'm just wondering if he will somehow find a way to synthesise it or if the end-game is just humans/zombies peacefully co-existing.

Fairly sure we now have Major/Liv totally set up to be together at the end and I'm ok with that!

CastorTroy

Wonder how Ravi came to the conclusion the whole brain needs to be eaten, considering he just gave a small piece to the rats.

I like to think Clive's other woman is still waiting for him in the car since last week, Airplane style.

FreudianSlippers

CastorTroy wrote: »

Wonder how Ravi came to the conclusion the whole brain needs to be eaten, considering he just gave a small piece to the rats.

I like to think Clive's other woman is still waiting for him in the car since last week, Airplane style.

I didn't think the whole brain needed to be eaten?

flazio

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

I didn't think the whole brain needed to be eaten?

Liv did make the point of asking does she eat the whole thing which Ravi confirmed that she does.
How many of the original Max Rager synthesised cures does Blaine have left? I can see that coming into play by the end of next season.

Blazer

flazio wrote: »

Liv did make the point of asking does she eat the whole thing which Ravi confirmed that she does.
How many of the original Max Rager synthesised cures does Blaine have left? I can see that coming into play by the end of next season.

About 15 I think.
He used it on a guy he tortured and the major.
Did he sell any though?

CastorTroy

Wasn't that Kardashian type woman a cured zombie? White Girl, or whatever her name was

EoinMcLovin

CastorTroy wrote: »

Wasn't that Kardashian type woman a cured zombie? White Girl, or whatever her name was

Yeah that's the brain that Ravi ate

CastorTroy

Yeah so if she was cured, she must have gotten it from Blaine.

But that's the cure that's only temporary, right? Like Major and Blaine used before

Blazer

CastorTroy wrote: »

Yeah so if she was cured, she must have gotten it from Blaine.

But that's the cure that's only temporary, right? Like Major and Blaine used before

It was a permanent cure..this was version 2.
Version 1 was the temporary one with amnesia.

EoinMcLovin

CastorTroy wrote: »

Yeah so if she was cured, she must have gotten it from Blaine.

But that's the cure that's only temporary, right? Like Major and Blaine used before

the first cure was making them sick once they became human but the second cure which he stole was a proper cure. Ravi can't make anymore as the infected Max Rager drink doesn't exist anymore

spektorfive

The esp before with Major and Liv living together 60's style was so jarring with what we got with Liv new "Boyfriend". You can blame some of it on the brain but seems to suggest the feelings are still there for Liv & Major. It so hard to get into Liv boyfriends as they seem so disposable. I didn't think she was that much into this new guy, I don't even recall his name.

Blaine father death seems less dramatic or impactful for a character that's been part of the show for so long. If he was shot down riding the horse (Planet of the ape's style) it would have been a cool send off. Who hell was that reporter and wtf is F.U.R.Y news? Would the reporter be standing that close to live gunfire?

Liv giving up the cure was cool. Not happy about Major and Blaine working together. I know it's not major's first choice and calls Blaine out for being a murderer but god they need to some sort of punishment for Blaine at the end.

flazio

https://twitter.com/CWiZombie/status/1083472731654352896?s=19
I imagine we can expect it on Netflix the day after.

pixelburp

A smidge of a trailer has popped up for the final season; really not much to go on from it, but hey:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO-UCnL2rZ0

CastorTroy

Back tonight!

pixelburp

Anyone know if Netflix IE are getting the weekly episodes? I presume the UK are again, hoping the nonsense with RTÉ sitting on the rights is resolved.

flazio

pixelburp wrote: »

Anyone know if Netflix IE are getting the weekly episodes? I presume the UK are again, hoping the nonsense with RTÉ sitting on the rights is resolved.

Well, we got weekly episodes last season so I would have hoped so. However no sign of the episodes either here or in the UK.

pixelburp

Did we? Getting seasons mixed up possibly, there was definitely one season where we (Ireland) didn't get the weekly hit.

CastorTroy

Beginning of last season, I think. We didn't start getting them weekly until a number of episodes in.

I just checked netflix and the new episode is there now.

pixelburp

Yup, Netflix IE has weekly episodes: found the premiere slightly underwhelming, didn't really feel like the first episode of the last season, more like a middle-episode TBH. Not a huge fan of intermittent zombie brain Ravi either, so ... Yeah. We'll see how things are wrapped up I guess.

jface187

Yeah felt the same way. Just like where back into it. Not a strong opener. Ravi was kinda funny, but it was over the top. I'm not even sure what this show can do now for a big ending? A cure with Liv and Major getting together? Seems almost to go against this show trying to say being a zombie isn't all bad.

CastorTroy

New episode not on netflix yet?

EoinMcLovin

CastorTroy wrote: »

New episode not on netflix yet?

Probably not released until 12 maybe

EoinMcLovin

Episode is on Netflix now

jface187

It seems to me this was suppose to be a two hour opener and not split in two. Only way I can make sense to have that cliffhanger and it be done away with in the first two minutes.

Was there ever a reason said why Ravi can have sex with peyton and not pass on the Zombie Virus?

EoinMcLovin

jface187 wrote: »

It seems to me this was suppose to be a two hour opener and not split in two. Only way I can make sense to have that cliffhanger and it be done away with in the first two minutes.

Was there ever a reason said why Ravi can have sex with peyton and not pass on the Zombie Virus?

I think its because he only becomes a zombie for a few days every month

FreudianSlippers

His "monthlies"

iguana

I'm still watching this but only because it's the final series so I kind of want to see it out. Season 2 in particular was an exceptionally witty, smart, well plotted and utterly charming series and there is very little of that show on display any more.

pixelburp

Yeah, this is giving off none of the airs of a typical final season, where plot and character kicks it up a gear (sometimes including burn off by killing various side characters) as it hurtles towards its finale. Very underwhelming stuff so far; a better second episode but not by much.

In fact it feels like a show just going through the motions, a claim that feels more and more apt with the CW output.

pixelburp

I stand by my statement, this is the most lackadaisical final season I've watched in a long time; really doesn't feel like the story's coming to a close - in places it kinda does sure, but in most others it comes off like typical mid-season filler we've seen before, comedy brain stories n' all.

And I dunno who came up with that "French" Filmore Graves character, but he has been so toe curlingly awful since the moment he stepped on the show with that weird, warmed-up Inspector Closseau routine...

Mr E

Yeah that French character is awful.

I agree about the final season. It doesn't feel like it's building towards any huge denouement. It's just limping along. Maybe it'll start ramping up soon now that we're getting towards the midpoint.

pixelburp

I wouldn't mind but the story literally has nukes pointed at Seattle, with the humans ready to revolt, so it's not like there isn't readymade Final Season material there. It gets mentioned here and there, Payton going off to Washington occasionally; maybe it's the problem I think plagues a lot of CW shows, in that it can't wriggle out from its own narrative scope (murder whodunnits with comedy brain themes) to tell the bigger, punchier story right there.

Mr E

Finally things are ramping up. Only took 8 episodes.

iguana

The series has picked up since the revelation that Al was Sandy's niece and her article on Blaine was part of a larger plan. But it's still such a shadow of the show it was at it's peak. The bits that really get me are the few scenes Major has where he is interacting with Ravi and Robert Buckley gets a chance to be funny and charming and share the great chemistry he has with Rahul Kohli, instead of a stressed military commander.

pixelburp wrote: »

And I dunno who came up with that "French" Filmore Graves character, but he has been so toe curlingly awful since the moment he stepped on the show with that weird, warmed-up Inspector Closseau routine...

He is so very, very weird. The first time he appeared I assumed he was on some crazy brains but then he appeared again and it turned out that no, that's honestly what the writers and actor/director thinks a French detective is like.

pixelburp

I was a bit irritated that Al was a stooge, I thought the character had agency enough without it being part of some scheme to undermine Blaine. Agree with the comments about Major, he's stuck off in his own little arc & turning him into a soldier was always a huge mistake IMO.

On the "Car Salesman" episode and the pace has picked up a little; strange to have the Big Bad only reveal himself this far into the season but just thankful that events are beginning to take off a little.

flazio

Doesn't appear to be a new episode this week.

pixelburp

Think 4th July weekend has a lot of shows skipping a release.

jface187

The show finally picks up with Liv dad coming in. I wish he came in last season, bulit him up so we care about him and then his plan is reveled. Unless I missed something, is there still not a whole lot we know about him? Like were did the metal plate come from? Where was he the past five years and how he became this mastermind of the new zombie order. It just feels really rushed. Now the french guy is the big bad? boo.

Two more to go. I hope Donnie kills Blaine. I assume Blaine killed the girl to get back at Donnie. I said before Blaine should have gone long ago. His not connected to the main story and Liv & Major seem to have given up getting him for the crimes his done. Donnie taking him out seems to be the only fitting end for him.

Blazer

jface187 wrote: »

The show finally picks up with Liv dad coming in. I wish he came in last season, bulit him up so we care about him and then his plan is reveled. Unless I missed something, is there still not a whole lot we know about him? Like were did the metal plate come from? Where was he the past five years and how he became this mastermind of the new zombie order. It just feels really rushed. Now the french guy is the big bad? boo.

Two more to go. I hope Donnie kills Blaine. I assume Blaine killed the girl to get back at Donnie. I said before Blaine should have gone long ago. His not connected to the main story and Liv & Major seem to have given up getting him for the crimes his done. Donnie taking him out seems to be the only fitting end for him.

I don't think Blaine killed her..at least I hope not..she didn't have that long to live anyway.
Can't believe there's only 2 episodes left? It feels like the writers just went "oh ****..we better write an ending" just before this.
I'm guessing now Ravi tells Major who was the lynchpin so that will tie that up and then just deal with the general and the burger van one... I wonder will they leave it open ended with the brothel girls.

jface187

I assume the french guy will still go ahead with the plan and start off the human/zombie war? maybe. I know the show doesn't have the biggest budget so maybe the war might be out of their reach.

mightyreds

Show is so rushed can't believe there is only 2 left, I actually thought Liv's fathers death was a set up he was in and out so quickly.
I'm gonna go with Ravi creating a cure from the tainted utopium and the city getting nuked while the zombies are still outside in the brothel.

CastorTroy

I was behind so got the last 7 episodes watched on Monday. 3 days straight of Rob Thomas shows. Some day I'll check out Party Down.

Anyway, yeah 1 to go now. I was thinking after those 7 episodes that Blaine won't get a happy ending. He's likeable enough that the fans like him and want him to stick around, but evil enough that the majority of people wouldn't complain if he got his comeuppance. But after what he did this week, it just put the final nail in that coffin.

Well next week is the finale. Looking forward to it. Live and Major to finally get married after that slight hiccup 5 years ago?

pixelburp

So after all that, all the threat, the zombie faction leader is ... the frickin' Inspector Clusseau knock off? NOT Livs dad? Bad move iZombie, really bad move and just made the dad's presence retroactively redundant filler - which if I'm honest formed about 80% of this final season.

I liked the main plot mind, the heist was a fun last adventure for the main trio, but it was also a highlight of the shows weakeness both this season and across the board. The internal inconsistency with the brain personalities was always a problem, basically boiling down to whatever the plot required, logic be damned.