UEFA to investigate 76 clubs over FFP

Paulegend

so city are being investigated as are psg. i wonder if chelsea will be looked at too and if any severe punishements will be handed out. maybe just dock them points in the group next season or something??

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11945/9189619/uefa-to-investigate-76-clubs-over-ffp

Skylinehead

Premier League sides Manchester City and are believed to be among the clubs involved,

I assume it's Chelsea, but still :pac:

Paulegend

lol typical sky. i cant see anything big happening anyway. as its the first season a lot of big clubs will probably get a slap on the wrist with a warning. maybe have their squad registration cut from 25 to 20 or something silly like that

Lawrence1895

If it ever happens, I hope, they hang Bayern Munich

CSF

If UEFA want this taken seriously, they have to follow through on what they said they would do from the beginning. Otherwise tear up the whole thing.

Red Crow

Lars1916 wrote: »

If it ever happens, I hope, they hang Bayern Munich

I know they pay obscene wages and huge transfer fees but would they not generate millions of money?

Lawrence1895

Red Crow wrote: »

I know they pay obscene wages and huge transfer fees but would they not generate millions of money?

It's all about their CEO, an apparent tax dodger. He filed charges against himself, but maybe, just maybe, he will get in trouble in the end.

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/sport/steuerhinterziehung-hoeness-selbstanzeige-nicht-strafmildernd-12825477.html

Sorry, can't find an english link atm

RoryMac

Expect the teams from smaller footballing nations to be hammered while the bigger teams get a stern talking to

dfx-

CSF wrote: »

If UEFA want this taken seriously, they have to follow through on what they said they would do from the beginning. Otherwise tear up the whole thing.

All any club has to do is to be reducing the losses until about 2022 no?

Oat23

Hoeness' trouble has nothing to do with Bayern. They have nothing to worry about with FFP.

Lawrence1895

Oat23 wrote: »

Hoeness' trouble has nothing to do with Bayern. They have nothing to worry about with FFP.

I still think, it damages the reputation of the club.

CSF

dfx- wrote: »

All any club has to do is to be reducing the losses until about 2022 no?

I'm not 100% sure of the specifics, just assumed the investigations meant there were breaches.

Dempsey

Lars1916 wrote: »

I still think, it damages the reputation of the club.

Extreme wishful thinking that his tax problems will be tied in with Bayern under FFP.

Smithwicks Man

Is there a list of the teams?

Ebbs

To put it into numbers:

237 teams in the CL or EL
104 of those dont earn or spend over 4million a year, so cant be investigated.

That leaves 133 teams, out of which 76 are being investigated. That's just 57% of all teams that could be investigated...are being investigated. Ie. 1 in every 2 teams. Doubt any big names are "getting away" without having to submit further info.

jamaamaj

Lars1916 wrote: »

If it ever happens, I hope, they hang Bayern Munich

Ahead of clubs like Chelsea, Man City, PSG, Monaco, Zenit, Anzhi etc, ect.

Na.

Agueroooo

The day a bg club does not get 'invited' to a marquee competition like the Champions League cause of FFP will be the day hell freezes over.

losthorizon

Lars1916 wrote: »

If it ever happens, I hope, they hang Bayern Munich

German Football is usually very compliant with Financial rules and was a long time before these rules came in.

Italian clubs could be in a spot of bother as well as English clubs and a mixture from around Europe like Greek and Cypriot clubs.

The LOI is usually well within the rules.

GLaDOS

losthorizon wrote: »

The LOI is usually well within the rules.

You need to have money to spend it wrongly :pac:

losthorizon

Paulegend wrote: »

lol typical sky. i cant see anything big happening anyway. as its the first season a lot of big clubs will probably get a slap on the wrist with a warning. maybe have their squad registration cut from 25 to 20 or something silly like that

Its not the first season by far.
Why do you say that?

A load of clubs have been excluded in the last few years including Spanish clubs.

losthorizon

ScienceNerd wrote: »

You need to have money to spend it wrongly :pac:

Thats not the way it works actually!

Oat23

ScienceNerd wrote: »

You need to have money to spend it wrongly :pac:

Shams know all about that.

Smithwicks Man

losthorizon wrote: »

The LOI is usually well within the rules.

ScienceNerd wrote: »

You need to have money to spend it wrongly :pac:

losthorizon wrote: »

Thats not the way it works actually!

Fairly sure the LOI clubs aren't going to be operating at a loss in the millions and so wouldn't be a concern for FFP as far as I'm aware.


Again, does anybody have a link that provides a list of the clubs?!

losthorizon

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

Fairly sure the LOI clubs aren't going to be operating at a loss in the millions and so wouldn't be a concern for FFP as far as I'm aware.


Again, does anybody have a link that provides a list of the clubs?!

Its the same method for every and each club in Europe. It has nothing absolutely nothing to do with the amount you owe. Thats the reason Rapid were excluded recently and some Bosnian clubs as well who have a turnaround fairly similar to LOI clubs.

You can be in trouble financially whether the turnover is in the hundreds of euros or billions the amount does not matter. That goes for the local business too. Surely thats obvious. And UEFA announces the clubs excluded at fairly frequent intervals. Sometimes clubs that are excluded dont actually qualify for Europe anyway.

Cienciano

Lars1916 wrote: »

If it ever happens, I hope, they hang Bayern Munich

They're probably the only big club that are above board

Cantona's Collars

poolboy

FSG have said they will take uefa to court if ffp rules aren't implemented fully and sanctions imposed on clubs in breach of them. Not sure how successful they'll be but could be interesting.

losthorizon

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

Fairly sure the LOI clubs aren't going to be operating at a loss in the millions and so wouldn't be a concern for FFP as far as I'm aware.


Again, does anybody have a link that provides a list of the clubs?!

UEFA fines and excludes clubs all the time. Virtually half the Greek league is excluded. Here is a few decisions from a few months ago.

http://www.uefa.org/mediaservices/mediareleases/newsid=2039912.html

I think Sky is wrong to claim that UEFA have a set list of 76 clubs. I imagine its fairley fluid and is always changing. They have to anyway because of the risk of crime syndicates and the like. UEFA keep a fairly tight eye on things now.

I think Derry were excluded as well if memory serves me right (might be wrong in that for three years)