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Landlord changed locks, what can I do?

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    #212
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    Civil, no?

    Correct- recovery of debts relating to transactions between organisations or individuals are always a civil matter. Criminal law relates to the relationship between individuals or organisations- and the state. Pretty straight forward, tbh.


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    #213
    P. Breathnach
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    rubberdiddies wrote: »
    exactly. i feel the same. this thread however happens to be about a tenant not paying their rent and not a homeowner not paying a mortgage
    It's about a tenant being late with the rent, not a tenant not paying at all. There is quite a difference between late payment and non-payment.


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    #214
    WHIP IT!
    Registered Users Posts: 5,882 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    P. Breathnach wrote: »
    It's about a tenant being late with the rent, not a tenant not paying at all. There is quite a difference between late payment and non-payment.

    Six weeks?? When does 'late' become 'non'??


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    #215
    mdebets
    Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭mdebets


    Claw Hammer wrote: »
    Ifb a tenant stays in accommodation and knows that he is never going to be able to pay his rent he is committing criminal offences. Why should a landlord have to put up with criminality?
    And what about a landlord that relies on the rent, to pay the mortgage and has no money put aside for repairs or can't pay the management fees?
    He really is committing the criminal offence of fraud, as he defrauds the tenants of his money without providing the full service (a serviced apartment with managements fees fully paid up).


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    #216
    rubberdiddies
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    P. Breathnach wrote: »
    It's about a tenant being late with the rent, not a tenant not paying at all. There is quite a difference between late payment and non-payment.

    no. it really is very simple. its about a tenant not paying rent. being late would be 1 or 2 days, not 6 weeks


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    #217
    Arbiter of Good Taste
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    mdebets wrote: »
    And what about a landlord that relies on the rent, to pay the mortgage and has no money put aside for repairs or can't pay the management fees?
    He really is committing the criminal offence of fraud, as he defrauds the tenants of his money without providing the full service (a serviced apartment with managements fees fully paid up).

    Clutch at straws much? Apart from the fact that there has been no mention of any landlord failing to do repairs, there's a hell of a difference between having a couple of hundred set aside for repairs and maintenance and losing out on six weeks rent, not knowing when you'll see a penny.


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    #218
    Claw Hammer
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    The_Conductor wrote: »
    Correct- recovery of debts relating to transactions between organisations or individuals are always a civil matter. Criminal law relates to the relationship between individuals or organisations- and the state. Pretty straight forward, tbh.

    The can be concurrent civil and criminal wrongdoing. There can be both civil and criminal actions for assault for example. There can often be civil and criminal actions arising out of motor crashes. The same situation can arise with respect to landlord and tenant issues or indeed even failure to pay in a Restaurant.
    There is a specific criminal offence of failing to comply with a determination order of the PRTB.


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    #219
    The_Morrigan
    Registered Users Posts: 9,368 ✭✭✭The_Morrigan


    After a quick review with my co-mods we have decided to close this thread as it has gone completely off topic and the OP seems to have the situation under control for the moment.

    OP, if you required further assistance, please drop any of the mods a pm and we can re-open the thread for you.


    Thanks,

    Morri


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