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Problems with landlord. No lease. No receipt of deposit

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    #32
    Grandpa Hassan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭Grandpa Hassan


    D3PO wrote: »
    No its not its a clear sign that he wants a deposit. The depositisi to prevent you trashing the room and or leaving a load of bills in your wake when you swanny off to Mayo.

    If he allows the deposit be used as the last month theres nothign to prevent you trashing the bedroom and leaving without paying your share of ESB, UPC or whatever other communal bills exist.

    You may say you have no intention to damage anything and that everything is in good condition but thats not the point. The deposit is there to ensure that is the case.

    The LL is far more likely to keep the deposit than the OP trash the room!!!


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    #33
    D3PO
    Registered Users Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    Grandpa Hassan wrote: »
    The LL is far more likely to keep the deposit than the OP trash the room!!!

    as true as his maybe and can be used in a more generalised LL V Tenant deposit debate that has no merit.

    The deposit is provided and recieved for a specific set of circumstances to be covered. It cannot be assumed that one party or the other will fail to abide by the deposit conditions.

    It has to be assumed that the mechanism for which a deposit is provided will be appropriatly applied.

    This is the thought process that needs to be accepted and used for the reformation of the whole deposit crisis in the Irish rental market.


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    #34
    Grandpa Hassan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭Grandpa Hassan


    D3PO wrote: »
    as true as his maybe and can be used in a more generalised LL V Tenant deposit debate that has no merit.

    The deposit is provided and recieved for a specific set of circumstances to be covered. It cannot be assumed that one party or the other will fail to abide by the deposit conditions.

    It has to be assumed that the mechanism for which a deposit is provided will be appropriatly applied.

    This is the thought process that needs to be accepted and used for the reformation of the whole deposit crisis in the Irish rental market.

    But the deposit 'crisis' is no different in London or anywhere else when it comes to 'rent-a-room'.

    The UK has great deposit protection for tenants, with independent inventory checks etc. And that needs to be brought in for Ireland asap. But there is no protection for those that rent rooms in shared houses. Deposit is effectively used as the last months rent in the overwhelming majority of cases. The LL or the others in the house just have to nmake sure that they find themselves a good flatmate who isn't going to intentionally trash the place on their last day, or else run off without paying their share of bills.

    The introduction of mandatory deposit protection etc for flatshares would be impractical. Turnover is too high.


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    #35
    D3PO
    Registered Users Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    How do we know unless we try ?

    I hand on heart couldnt give you any idea how high the turnover is on flatshares or rent a room agreements. The data doesnt exist any assumption would be based on nothing more than assumption.


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    #36
    Shadylou
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭Shadylou


    If I were you I'd use the deposit as your last months rent.....if the place is perfect then it's the same thing really


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