Cancelling my Wedding Band - HELP!

metroburgers

Perhaps spend the €2000 on security for the weeding in case the band do "attend".

Try not to cancel the security if you find better offer. :pac:

suicide_circus

just read this whole thread.

I am speechless.


The OP is perfectly entitled to change his mind!!!!!

The OP paid a deposit which he is now forfeiting. END OF STORY.

No T&Cs were agreed upon. END OF STORY.

I wouldn't be offering them a ****ing penny!!

And as for their threatening email!! ! unbelievable! I would have gone straight to a solicitor with this one.

Swampy

Jasus. Don't give them anything. They are operating a business. You didn't sign any contract or T&C's. They should have known better.

Evil_Bilbo

mullamike

if you bothered to read my previous posts you'd see that I have put my hands up countless times to admit my poor handing / bad moral call for cancelling on this band within 6 weeks of the wedding - I've also offered them compensation - still have not heard back from them (5 days later). I'm not an arrogant person - I'm just trying to sort this whole mess out, and came on here to get advice how to do so. You are obviously quite a nasty person wishing something like having someone's wedding ruined over a few hundred quid.

mikom

suicide_circus wrote: »

And as for their threatening email!! ! unbelievable! I would have gone straight to a solicitor with this one.

Which solicitor though......... your existing one, or one you just befriended?

suicide_circus

mikom wrote: »

Which solicitor though......... your existing one, or one you just befriended?

whichever I choose! luckily people can still decide which solicitor to go with, unlike the tyranny in the wedding band industry.

Mobile Dj

dan1895 wrote: »

Bad form undercutting legitimate business people by not paying tax no?

Thank you Dan1895..

Black market killing the industry.If the band or DJ are legit then they have nothing to worry about...

Mobile Dj

Mad Bull wrote: »

Bad form hanging someone else like that. Scandalous in fact.
You ever hear of Karma

So funny.... Karma for them, as I am the legit one...

truedoom

I wouldn't worry about it, because you've been trying to contact them for ages and they haven't been able to contact you back.

Without a written contract, what can they do. Especially as they made no mention to any of these policies before hand.

And sure they can always get another gig in 2 weeks, not the end of the world.

Fishyfreak

Of all of the assumptions thrown about in this thread and debated, one of the huge assumptions that nobody has challenged is that the band couldn't get another booking for that nights in 6 weeks.

Maybe not another wedding but if they are any way good this should be handy enough (My assumption :cool:).

Mobile Dj

truedoom wrote: »

I wouldn't worry about it, because you've been trying to contact them for ages and they haven't been able to contact you back.

Without a written contract, what can they do. Especially as they made no mention to any of these policies before hand.

And sure they can always get another gig in 2 weeks, not the end of the world.

Doubt it as bookings for weddings generally 1 year in advance

mulamike

Evil_Bilbo wrote: »

mullamike

if you bothered to read my previous posts you'd see that I have put my hands up countless times to admit my poor handing / bad moral call for cancelling on this band within 6 weeks of the wedding - I've also offered them compensation - still have not heard back from them (5 days later). I'm not an arrogant person - I'm just trying to sort this whole mess out, and came on here to get advice how to do so. You are obviously quite a nasty person wishing something like having someone's wedding ruined over a few hundred quid.

Really? I read a series of post to the effect of "I'm alright jack, they got their 50 euro and that's good enough for them. Oh and by the way they industry is a big Rip off anyway so I'm just giving as good as I get. And sure if they're worth their salt , they'll get another wedding with just a few weeks notice.

Evil_Bilbo

mulamike wrote: »

Really? I read a series of post to the effect of "I'm alright jack, they got their 50 euro and that's good enough for them. Oh and by the way they industry is a big Rip off anyway so I'm just giving as good as I get. And sure if they're worth their salt , they'll get another wedding with just a few weeks notice.

:rolleyes: Either you actually havent read my posts, or you must have me confused with the posters who are advising me to tell the band to get f!cked.

schemingbohemia

This should be in Bargain Alerts - pay €50 and keep your wedding band for a year, then dump them 6 weeks before the wedding at no extra cost cause you like someone else better!

Why did the OP book them a year in advance if s/he didn't know how booking wedding bands work?
What would the OP's reaction have been if the band had cancelled on them 6 weeks before the wedding?
Would the OP have gladly paid a 50% deposit at the time of booking? No, because the whole game works on trust and people doing the right thing.

The OP has basically ensured that this band will now look for much larger deposits from people struggling to save for weddings in future.

Hopefully the band will learn and include water-tight t's and c's in their deposit documentation after this.

Hopefully none of the other people hired in by the OP will change their minds before the wedding, or the groom/bride.

Showcase_Cork

schemingbohemia wrote: »

This should be in Bargain Alerts - pay €50 and keep your wedding band for a year, then dump them 6 weeks before the wedding at no extra cost cause you like someone else better!

Why did the OP book them a year in advance if s/he didn't know how booking wedding bands work?
What would the OP's reaction have been if the band had cancelled on them 6 weeks before the wedding?
Would the OP have gladly paid a 50% deposit at the time of booking? No, because the whole game works on trust and people doing the right thing.

The OP has basically ensured that this band will now look for much larger deposits from people struggling to save for weddings in future.

Hopefully the band will learn and include water-tight t's and c's in their deposit documentation after this.

Hopefully none of the other people hired in by the OP will change their minds before the wedding, or the groom/bride.

This is entirely the fault of the band!! A customer has every right to cancel at any time as long as he or she is prepared to forfeit their deposit which this customer clearly is!

It's not an ideal situation for the band granted but I am yet to know of a Professional Wedding Band that requests such a small deposit and fails to respond to the customer in weeks!

It doesn't matter why he decided to cancel, the bottom line is that as morally right or wrong as it is, it's entirely his perogative to do so as a customer.

This is the difference between a pub band trying to be a wedding band and a specialised professional and well managed wedding band. The fault lies completely with the band and not the customer on this occasion.

maximoose

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Why did the OP book them a year in advance if s/he didn't know how booking wedding bands work?

Because people plan weddings a long time in advance?

What would the OP's reaction have been if the band had cancelled on them 6 weeks before the wedding?

Probably wouldn't be happy. But due to the crap agreement between the two, there would be feck all she could really do about it bar ask for her €50 back.

Would the OP have gladly paid a 50% deposit at the time of booking? No, because the whole game works on trust and people doing the right thing.

My brother paid a 50% deposit for his band, sister paid 30%. I don't think it's out of the norm. Both however did get formal T&Cs and receipts as they/the band weren't idiots.

The OP has basically ensured that this band will now look for much larger deposits from people struggling to save for weddings in future.

You're right. Well done OP! You've ensured sensible business practices!

Hopefully the band will learn and include water-tight t's and c's in their deposit documentation after this.

Fingers crossed. It'll protect them and their customers.


A lot of excessive sympathy for the poor little band in here.

mulamike

maximoose wrote: »

Both however did get formal T&Cs and receipts as they/the band weren't idiots.



You're right. Well done OP! You've ensured sensible business practices!



A lot of excessive sympathy for the poor little band in here.

The OP truly is the hero here - he's taught the band a valuable lesson. Hopefully they're not the idiots you think they are. Hopefully they'll see the OPs valuable contribution to the way they operate business and they've got 50 euro or €12.50 each in the process for this lesson (who said there is no such thing as a free lunch).

Hopefully they'll see this clear logic and not let their emotions get the better of them and turn up on his big day looking to play.

Tippex

mulamike wrote: »

The OP truly is the hero here - he's taught the band a valuable lesson. Hopefully they're not the idiots you think they are. Hopefully they'll see the OPs valuable contribution to the way they operate business and they've got 50 euro or €12.50 each in the process for this lesson (who said there is no such thing as a free lunch).

Hopefully they'll see this clear logic and not let their emotions get the better of them and turn up on his big day looking to play.

Mike just something striking me here. you have 4 posts and all of them are in this thread (afaik all of the posts are in support of the band). you wouldn't happen to be a member of said wedding band?

petes

Tippex wrote: »

Mike just something striking me here. you have 4 posts and all of them are in this thread (afaik all of the posts are in support of the band). you wouldn't happen to be a member of said wedding band?

Or read any of the previous posts!

mikom

mulamike wrote: »

The OP truly is the hero here - he's taught the band a valuable lesson. Hopefully they're not the idiots you think they are. Hopefully they'll see the OPs valuable contribution to the way they operate business and they've got 50 euro or €12.50 each in the process for this lesson (who said there is no such thing as a free lunch).

Hopefully they'll see this clear logic and not let their emotions get the better of them and turn up on his big day looking to play.

I've a funny feeling this wedding may be playing host to two bands..........

suicide_circus

Showcase_Cork wrote: »

This is entirely the fault of the band!! A customer has every right to cancel at any time as long as he or she is prepared to forfeit their deposit which this customer clearly is!

It's not an ideal situation for the band granted but I am yet to know of a Professional Wedding Band that requests such a small deposit and fails to respond to the customer in weeks!

It doesn't matter why he decided to cancel, the bottom line is that as morally right or wrong as it is, it's entirely his perogative to do so as a customer.

This is the difference between a pub band trying to be a wedding band and a specialised professional and well managed wedding band. The fault lies completely with the band and not the customer on this occasion.

+ a million

how people aren't getting this is beyond me.

this band are a business. due to their sloppy business practices they got burned. tough titties, welcome to the world. and their top class business acumen continues with the emailing of thinly vailed threats of violence and an inability to return the OPs calls, mails for FOUR WEEKS. Amateurs OP, you're well shot of their stupidity and shoddy Neil Diamond covers.

Showcase_Cork

mulamike wrote: »

The OP truly is the hero here - he's taught the band a valuable lesson. Hopefully they're not the idiots you think they are. Hopefully they'll see the OPs valuable contribution to the way they operate business and they've got 50 euro or €12.50 each in the process for this lesson (who said there is no such thing as a free lunch).

Hopefully they'll see this clear logic and not let their emotions get the better of them and turn up on his big day looking to play.

Most wedding bands are five piece so why would you automatically assume it's 50e divided by just four? I don't think anyone ever mentioned it being a four piece band - just A band!

mulamike

suicide_circus wrote: »

+ a million

how people aren't getting this is beyond me.

this band are a business. due to their sloppy business practices they got burned. tough titties, welcome to the world. and their top class business acumen continues with the emailing of thinly vailed threats of violence and an inability to return the OPs calls, mails for FOUR WEEKS. Amateurs OP, you're well shot of their stupidity and shoddy Neil Diamond covers.

Tough titty witties for the band. What a lucky escape the OP had and is in the clear now.

dudara

Selection of off-topic posts deleted. Keep it on topic posters.

dudara

Mobile Dj

Showcase_Cork wrote: »

In this instance I am afraid that unless the band have specifically stated a compensation clause in a signed contract then legally they do not have a leg to stand on.

The customer made a booking and paid a €50 deposit which was the amount requested by the band. The customer is fully within his rights to cancel that booking as long as he or she is prepared to forfeit any monies paid, in this instance €50. The reason for the cancellation is totally irrelevant.

It could be argued that there is a moral issue here but that is entirely down to the conscience of the customer. They are not obliged to pay any compensation to the band legally and do not even have to explain their reasons for cancelling if they do not wish to do so.

The question of whether it is morally fair on the band or is negated by their ability to not protect themselves by requesting a larger deposit as a deterrent against this occurrence.

The band in question should learn from this, accept it and increase their deposit to prevent it happening again as easily.

This is my own personal professional opinion based upon both experience and experiences!

Well stated and 100% agree

Kenny Logins

Showcase_Cork wrote: »

Most wedding bands are five piece so why would you automatically assume it's 50e divided by just four? I don't think anyone ever mentioned it being a four piece band - just A band!

Mulamike is the drummer with the band in question.


...and can't count past 4.


:pac:

mulamike

I think the OP is going to have a great wedding day with his new band. And he's taught us all a valuable lesson in contract law. What a guy.

theoneeyedman

Been reading this thread and tbh pretty scummy act by the op......notwithstanding the legal rights or wrongs of it.
I hope the op and the other half read up on wedding vows and their word is worth more than that they gave to the band

Studioage

Absolutely ridiculous!!!! Do the right thing and pay the cancellation fee!!!! If THEY cancelled, you'd bring them to court!!!!

Molester Stallone

Studioage wrote: »

Absolutely ridiculous!!!! Do the right thing and pay the cancellation fee!!!! If THEY cancelled, you'd bring them to court!!!!

You're not getting paid, no point stamping your feet & shouting over it