Does breaking the law bother you?

Ruu · 08-03-2014 12:49am

Theme tune for the OP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyxLGSMtqtM

degsie · 08-03-2014 12:50am

shopaholic01 wrote: »

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Sh1tbag OToole · 08-03-2014 12:51am

The law is a silly ould thing invented and maintained by politicians

geckovision · 08-03-2014 12:51am

steddyeddy wrote: »

What if you are a homosexual and go to a country where homosexuality is illegal? Or one like South Africa in the apartheid years? Those are laws that I wouldn't live by and many didn't only to fall foul of the law.

I'm assuming the OP lives in modern day Ireland and 'lives by his own code'. He said he'd have no problem killing someone so I've no idea why you're going on about homosexuality and apartheid.

Maybe I'm missing something, but when I think of the 'law' in this case, I'm thinking of crimes you generally hear about on the news - murder, theft etc.

shopaholic01 · 08-03-2014 12:52am

degsie wrote: »

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manonboard · 08-03-2014 12:57am

catallus wrote: »

Why so, indeed! I'm glad you asked. Do you charge for the prawn crackers?

I'm not sure what you mean by that, but if you thought I was taking the pi$$, I am genuinely curious why you believe your statement

catallus · 08-03-2014 12:58am

My statement is self explanatory.

shopaholic01 · 08-03-2014 1:00am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR3XY6wfSBw

steddyeddy · 08-03-2014 1:01am

geckovision wrote: »

I'm assuming the OP lives in modern day Ireland and 'lives by his own code'. He said he'd have no problem killing someone so I've no idea why you're going on about homosexuality and apartheid.

Maybe I'm missing something, but when I think of the 'law' in this case, I'm thinking of crimes you generally hear about on the news - murder, theft etc.

Well I'm afraid the news doesn't define a crime.

Stavros Murphy · 08-03-2014 1:01am

dobman88 wrote: »

Mail babe xxx

shopaholic01 wrote: »

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Stavros Murphy wrote: »

Me too. I got it in Aldi. It's a bit crap tbh.

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Id say its just riveted in hell's direction mate!:D

steddyeddy wrote: »

This thread is a perfect example of why After hours should require users to have at least 100-200 posts before being able to post here.

LOL.

bodhrandude · 08-03-2014 1:02am

TrueIt wrote: »

It takes a jay walker, to know a jay walker

Kill all the walkers and smoke all their jays

:D:D

shopaholic01 · 08-03-2014 1:03am

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

LOL.

LMAOROFL

dgt · 08-03-2014 1:06am

steddyeddy wrote: »

This thread is a perfect example of why After hours should require users to have at least 100-200 posts before being able to post here.

LEL

wil · 08-03-2014 1:10am

Ruubot2 wrote: »

Theme tune for the OP.

fixed tube for u

Stained Class · 08-03-2014 1:13am

Breaking the law does not bother me one whit.

Murdering, raping & suchlike are not my game but.............

Smoking in a pub after-hours gives me a buzz.

Driving over the speed limit does too.

Sometimes I let my 8 year old (she looks 10) in the front seat.:eek:

All sorts of pressure groups, big companies with an interest & Govt weakness contributed to almighty foolishness in regard to lawmaking

Too many useless idiotic laws to be bothered about & to abide by.

sligoface · 08-03-2014 1:17am

Not really a fan of Judas Priest but I wouldn't say it bothers me, probably one of their better tunes.

shopaholic01 · 08-03-2014 1:21am

sligoface wrote: »

Not really a fan of Judas Priest but I wouldn't say it bothers me, probably one of their better tunes.

Not really the worst crime in fairness.

Sir Arthur Daley · 08-03-2014 1:42am

sligoface wrote: »

Not really a fan of Judas Priest

Is this a remix by Lady Ga Ga?

Karl Stein · 08-03-2014 1:45am

catallus wrote: »

one's self-manifested moral code can override the established law...

Such an idiotic belief that has caused untold misery for millions of people.

Lyaiera · 08-03-2014 1:49am

What a ****ing **** thread.

Where are the mod laws?

porsche959 · 08-03-2014 2:12am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU

Sir Arthur Daley · 08-03-2014 2:17am

porsche959 wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU

Computer just crashed is due to XP dying?

Mickey H · 08-03-2014 4:01am

BillyMitchel wrote: »

Even in Pakistan?

Especially in Pakistan.

Squaredude · 08-03-2014 4:14am

I play by my own rules, nobody else's, not even my own!

Lou.m · 08-03-2014 9:14am

Voglio wrote: »

I'd have no problem killing someone.

Trolling leaves less blood though.;)

Legs.Eleven · 08-03-2014 9:20am

Officially the shittest thread I've ever read.

smcgiff · 08-03-2014 9:23am

catallus wrote: »

The moral blindness that leads to the nihilistic and dare I say juvenile belief that one's self-manifested moral code can override the established law should be denounced by all right-minded people.

Blindly following extant and all future (unknown) laws passed by 166 people in the Dail without question is not the best either.

Can you not imagine any law that could be passed that you would not abide?

Stavros Murphy · 08-03-2014 10:22am

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Officially the shittest thread I've ever read.

The OP doesn't care - they are a law unto themselves these days. Even littering isn't out of the question - there's almost no limits at all at all. Anarchy I tells ya.

CrazyRabbit · 08-03-2014 5:32pm

There are so many laws and they are written with such obscure wording that I've probably broken hundreds of them without even knowing.

bnt · 08-03-2014 6:48pm

I kind-of get what the OP is about, but I think his phrasing is a bit off. What is "moral" about obeying a speed limit, for example? There are a lot of cases where I wonder why we even have laws at all, and I've concluded that laws are there to stop stupid people from hurting themselves and others.

That doesn't mean I'd advocate a free-for-all, though. Using the speed limit example again, what would be different if the speed signs were still there, but were only recommended speeds, rather than legal limits? Smart drivers would recognise them as good advice and heed them, but stupid drivers would not - and stupid drivers often end up hurting others. Ditto for drunk driving.

What about theft or assault? Do you really need to be told that it's wrong? Are you so lacking in empathy that it's not obvious? Whatever you could do to someone, someone else could do to you, so ... don't do anything you wouldn't like if done to you. (a.k.a. the Golden Rule).

Maybe one day the technology will exist to burn the Golden Rule in to everyone's brains, regardless of intelligence level, but then there would be cries of "brainwashing". Well, some brains are so mentally polluted that they could do with a wash ... :cool:

Jesus Wept · 08-03-2014 6:52pm

It's a fair question, hi OP.

Jesus Wept · 08-03-2014 6:54pm

catallus wrote: »

The moral blindness that leads to the nihilistic and dare I say juvenile belief that one's self-manifested moral code can override the established law should be denounced by all right-minded people.

EH, no. Just no.

Voglio · 08-03-2014 7:08pm

Czarcasm wrote: »

It'll bother you if you ever find yourself in court. That personal moral code crap won't wash with the judge!

I really didn't want to bother stating the obvious in the OP even though I knew there would be at least one idiotic post about ending up in prison.

Obviously I obey laws that are in my interest to obey.

Czarcasm · 08-03-2014 7:10pm

Voglio wrote: »

I really didn't want to bother stating the obvious in the OP even though I knew there would be at least one idiotic post about ending up in prison.

And you would know.

wolfeye · 08-03-2014 7:12pm

Femme_Fatale · 08-03-2014 7:15pm

Voglio wrote: »

It doesn't bother me one bit, I have my own personal moral code that I abide by.

pragmatic1 wrote: »

Same as yourself OP. I have my own moral compass.

Fierce bad-ass but obviously certain laws being broken WOULD bother you, e.g. your house being broken into, you or someone you love being assaulted, and obviously murder.
I know it's less edgy but just say "Certain laws that are victimless don't bother me."

Stained Class wrote: »

It's funny what's illegal nowadays.

20 years ago you could smoke in a pub & homosexuality was illegal.

Now if you lit up in a pub, there's hell to pay.

2 blokes wearing the faces off each other at the bar. All good.

What's funny that's illegal nowadays? I enjoy a smoke after a few scoops but no problem with not being able to do so in the pub as not everyone is able to stick a load of cigarette smoke clogging up the atmosphere, especially people who are asthmatic. As for homsexuality being decriminalised... why even mention it? It's obviously a good thing.

catallus wrote: »

The moral blindness that leads to the nihilistic and dare I say juvenile belief that one's self-manifested moral code can override the established law should be denounced by all right-minded people.

The OP was getting on my tits but then this post eclipsed it.

Me? · 08-03-2014 7:35pm

Please stop the rot.

The Backwards Man · 08-03-2014 7:43pm

I am currently listening to All I Wanna Do Is Make To Love To You by Heart at a volume that contravenes this regualtion

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1992/en/act/pub/0007/sec0108.html#zza7y1992s108

Badass, I am

Stella Virgo · 08-03-2014 7:47pm

Voglio wrote: »

It doesn't bother me one bit, I have my own personal moral code that I abide by.

give back the lego bricks..............

Stavros Murphy · 08-03-2014 8:06pm

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I am currently listening to All I Wanna Do Is Make To Love To You by Heart at a volume that contravenes this regualtion

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1992/en/act/pub/0007/sec0108.html#zza7y1992s108

Badass, I am

You need neighbours within hearing distance for it to be bad-ass.

Voglio · 08-03-2014 8:37pm

Some people seem to be assuming that a personal moral code can't overlap with inherent morals behind the law.

Czarcasm · 08-03-2014 8:49pm

Voglio wrote: »

Some people seem to be assuming that a personal moral code can't overlap with inherent morals behind the law.

The question was "Does breaking the law bother you?", not "Do you have a personal moral code that operates within the boundaries of the law?". Even your post said you had no issue with breaking laws -

Voglio wrote: »

It doesn't bother me one bit, I have my own personal moral code that I abide by.

So you imply that you have no consideration for the consequences of breaking laws that don't suit you, which is an incredibly immature point of view.

P_1 · 08-03-2014 8:52pm

Are we talking about the original or a cover here?

Voglio · 08-03-2014 8:54pm

Czarcasm wrote: »

The question was "Does breaking the law bother you?", not "Do you have a personal moral code that operates within the boundaries of the law?". Even your post said you had no issue with breaking laws -

So you imply that you have no consideration for the consequences of breaking laws that don't suit you, which is an incredibly immature point of view.

I don't see what maturity has to do with it for a start. Even if I were immoral, being immoral doesn't mean you are immature.

Simply breaking the law doesn't bother me. What bothers me is breaking my own personal code of conduct.

Femme_Fatale · 08-03-2014 8:57pm

I like those Freeman-on-the-land dudes though - former owners of numerous properties suddenly unjustly-treated victims, and socking it to every law/every state process (apart from their dole of course).

bodice ripper · 08-03-2014 9:04pm

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."

maguic24 · 08-03-2014 9:06pm

Voglio wrote: »

It doesn't bother me one bit, I have my own personal moral code that I abide by.

Dexter, is that you?

maguic24 · 08-03-2014 9:23pm

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

The OP doesn't care - they are a law unto themselves these days. Even littering isn't out of the question - there's almost no limits at all at all. Anarchy I tells ya.

Littering is one of my pet hates. I just don't understand how you can buy a bar of chocolate and then throw the wrapper on the ground. It infuriates me when I notice beautiful parts of the countryside defaced by coke cans, wrappers, lucozade bottles etc. :mad:

I tell ya if I was a garda and I caught someone littering I'd chop their balls off. :cool:

Czarcasm · 08-03-2014 9:30pm

Voglio wrote: »

I don't see what maturity has to do with it for a start. Even if I were immoral, being immoral doesn't mean you are immature.

Actually it does, as one of the most common characteristics of immoral behaviour (personality disorders if you like) is immaturity, or a lack of understanding that their behaviour has consequences. We sometimes allow for this in children, but mature adults are expected to be responsible for their behaviour. If you haven't grasped the concept of morality then by definition you are immature.

Simply breaking the law doesn't bother me. What bothers me is breaking my own personal code of conduct.

So you're not immoral then, you're just a narcissist who believes the world revolves around them and should accommodate their "personal code of conduct". I trust you're at least mature enough to understand that if everyone in society lived by their own "personal moral code", what might seem morally justifiable to them, might be morally unjustifiable to you.

You won't be able to object though because they're just displaying the same self-interested attitude as you. That's why society has laws, to prevent people from imposing their own personal moral code upon other people.

Voglio · 08-03-2014 9:43pm

Czarcasm wrote: »

Actually it does, as one of the most common characteristics of immoral behaviour (personality disorders if you like) is immaturity, or a lack of understanding that their behaviour has consequences. We sometimes allow for this in children, but mature adults are expected to be responsible for their behaviour. If you haven't grasped the concept of morality then by definition you are immature.

So you're not immoral then, you're just a narcissist who believes the world revolves around them and should accommodate their "personal code of conduct". I trust you're at least mature enough to understand that if everyone in society lived by their own "personal moral code", what might seem morally justifiable to them, might be morally unjustifiable to you.

You won't be able to object though because they're just displaying the same self-interested attitude as you. That's why society has laws, to prevent people from imposing their own personal moral code upon other people.

You're one to talk about narcissism.

I reiterate, being immoral doesn't automatically make you immature.

It could just mean you have a different set of values. You could be perfectly mature in an emotional and mental sense and still be immoral. You seem to be assuming the world revolves around yourself the way you assume your personal values are universal.

If I were in government I would insist that the law must be obeyed and that it is wrong to break the law as it is best for avoiding anarchy. However privately I would realise that it is not in an individuals best interests or even make sense to blindly follow rules or laws that another party has dictated to you.

Does breaking the law bother you?

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