Malaysia Airlines flight MH370-Updates and Discussion

sopretty

sully2010 wrote: »

Malaysia confirms it has new radar data on missing plane flying over another country (but won't say where for security reasons)

http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=247111:msian-govt-confirms-it-has-new-radar-data-on-mh370-flying-over-another-country-but-refuses-to-say-where&Itemid=2#axzz2wSMl12sn

From reading that article, they have radar data from another country, not radar data confirming the plane flew over another country?

I swear to God, I'd love to slap them over the head with a microphone if I was a journalist there!

Happyman42

sully2010 wrote: »

Malaysia confirms it has new radar data on missing plane flying over another country (but won't say where for security reasons)

http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=247111:msian-govt-confirms-it-has-new-radar-data-on-mh370-flying-over-another-country-but-refuses-to-say-where&Itemid=2#axzz2wSMl12sn

I stopped when I read this:

Sky News presenter Kay Burley was caught on camera tripping up an escalator during a media scrum to speak to the women.

Stinicker

Supercell wrote: »

Good God, I hope this isnt true - http://airnation.net/2014/03/19/370-pakistan/ A landing in Pakistan doesnt bode well for the passengers if the Taliban nutters have their hands on it, never mind anyone else they decide to fly it into.

I kind of hope it is true, it gives hope for the passengers who may be held hostage and possibly it may well have a better ending than just searching empty ocean for wreckage and inevitable dead bodies; who knows possibly they knew all along and were trying to negotiate a release or pay a ransom or were trying some sort of special forces raid to free them. Anything is better than a crash and dead bodies at this stage when people are giving up hope.

sully2010

Happyman42 wrote: »

I stopped when I read this:

He states it quite clearly in the video in this link, make of it what you will.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2584399/Malaysia-confirms-new-radar-data-missing-plane-flying-country-wont-say-security-reasons.html

Happyman42

sully2010 wrote: »

He states it quite clearly in the video in this link, make of it what you will.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2584399/Malaysia-confirms-new-radar-data-missing-plane-flying-country-wont-say-security-reasons.html

Sorry, I wasn't referring to the main news...just that piece of info stuck in an article about something so serious.

Strange though, I am watching the BBC main news now and no mention of that story which, if true, should be the headlines. In my opinion anyway.

bajer101

Supercell wrote: »

Good God, I hope this isnt true - http://airnation.net/2014/03/19/370-pakistan/ A landing in Pakistan doesnt bode well for the passengers if the Taliban nutters have their hands on it, never mind anyone else they decide to fly it into.

That article is based on a report by Lignet, who are supposedly an Israeli advocacy group. They are an interesting group who wikileaks have mentioned and they certainly have members with very strong credentials. They have said that Israel is on high alert over this, and who can blame them! There has to be a concern that an ER (Extended Range) model of the 777 is missing and that if it did land in Pakistan that the flight path from Pakistan to Israel traverses Afganistan, Iran, Iraq or possibly Saudi. While it is admittedly verges on the conspiracy theory side of theories - the possibility of a dirty bomb attack against Israel would explain a lot of the secrecy surrounding the whole SAR investigation.

http://www.lignet.com/InBriefs/Malaysia-Hunts-for-Missing-Jet-in-Pakistan-Israel-

sully2010

sopretty wrote: »

From reading that article, they have radar data from another country, not radar data confirming the plane flew over another country?

I swear to God, I'd love to slap them over the head with a microphone if I was a journalist there!

I believe they are not saying a lot of information they at their disposals at the moment, thats why the families are going nuts and rightly so. But I feel over the next week a better picture of what has happened should emerge.

sopretty

sully2010 wrote: »

I believe they are not saying a lot of information they at their disposals at the moment, thats why the families are going nuts and rightly so. But I feel over the next week a better picture of what has happened should emerge.

Agreed. It's not fair on those families though. They'll end up having nervous breakdowns. It's not right.

AlanS181824

Devastating, hope the people are found and can be brought back to their families.

MonkieSocks

Could any of the passengers use something like;

Find my IPhone of Find my droid apps to see if the passengers phone had their phone GPS turned on.

I can find where my families by using such apps.

Could phone Phone GPS systems be traced onboard a moving plane?

BorneTobyWilde

How long before this search is called off. We must be getting close to the end game.

partyatmygaff

MonkieSocks wrote: »

Could any of the passengers use something like;

Find my IPhone of Find my droid apps to see if the passengers phone had their phone GPS turned on.

I can find where my families by using such apps.

Could phone Phone GPS systems be traced onboard a moving plane?

Getting a GPS signal on your phone on a plane isn't the problem. The issue is getting a mobile phone signal to send that data back to the ground.

marco_polo

MonkieSocks wrote: »

Could any of the passengers use something like;

Find my IPhone of Find my droid apps to see if the passengers phone had their phone GPS turned on.

I can find where my families by using such apps.

Could phone Phone GPS systems be traced onboard a moving plane?

No GPS is one way, an app like that would need a 3G signal to send data back from the phone.

bajer101

MonkieSocks wrote: »

Could any of the passengers use something like;

Find my IPhone of Find my droid apps to see if the passengers phone had their phone GPS turned on.

I can find where my families by using such apps.

Could phone Phone GPS systems be traced onboard a moving plane?

GPS only tells the device where it is - no-one else. To relay that information the phones needs an internet connection.

MonkieSocks

bajer101 wrote: »

GPS only tells the device where it is - no-one else. To relay that information the phones needs an internet connection.

Do some Airlines hae free internet on their Planes?

LETS BE AVN IT

What do people think of this persons theory? http://mh370shadow.com/post/79838944823/did-malaysian-airlines-370-disappear-using-sia68-sq68
Think we are getting very close to the truth.

Peanut

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Getting a GPS signal on your phone on a plane isn't the problem. The issue is getting a mobile phone signal to send that data back to the ground.

Also if a potential plotter was meticulous enough to turn off the transponder etc. bringing along a portable mobile jammer is certainly feasible if they managed to smuggle it through the airport, which I suspect wouldn't have been a problem.

Thrill

Australia PM:Australia satellite imagery spots objects that look like aircraft parts.

3 aircraft diverted to location of possible wreckage in Indian ocean

falan

Thrill wrote: »

Australia PM:Australia satellite imagery spots objects that look like aircraft parts.

3 aircraft diverted to location of possible wreckage in Indian ocean

Sky news and cnn both carrying this story....

Thrill

Sydney Morning Herald: First Australian search aircraft believed to have already arrived in area where objects were found.

US P8 searching, dispatched to area where possible wreckage has surfaced off Perth Coast.

PM: The task of locating objects is extremely difficult & it may turn out that they're not related to search


.

Thrill

Calcs put the plane off coast of Perth, jibe with AUS gov't search/expansion to Indian Ocean

Thrill

US Navy commander tells ABC NEWS that US P-8 aircraft is roughly 30 minutes from area to begin search for unidentified objects.

Australia Maritime Authority to hold press conference in 30 min on objects possibly from missing jet

Corvo

Why would they hold the press conference so soon, if they are unsure if it's pieces belonging to that plane?

I have a feeling they may already know.

fr336

Corvo wrote: »

Why would they hold the press conference so soon, if they are unsure if it's pieces belonging to that plane?

I have a feeling they may already know.

I think so too; the Aussie PM was the one to announce it.

irishmover

Yeh watching Australian news now and they're seeming very confident of what they see. All the regular stations switched to special bulletin away from regular program.

RAAF P-3 Orion on route.

AMSA conference in 8 minutes in Canberra. Seems like the initial story (find the crash site) might be coming to a closure.

irishmover

Watched Abbott address parliament in Canberra earlier. He said 'new and extremely credible information' and has said he has personally informed Malaysian PM of the developments.

Would be a little embarrassing for Australia if they have this wrong so definitely seems very confident.

Corvo

irishmover wrote: »

Watched Abbott address parliament in Canberra earlier. He said 'new and extremely credible information' and has said he has personally informed Malaysian PM of the developments.

Would be a little embarrassing for Australia if they have this wrong so definitely seems very confident.

Yeah, when they said the search plane was 30 minutes out and the press conference was to coincide with it almost, I got a strange feeling they had already confirmed it and were going through the motions.

irishmover

On now.

irishmover

One plane has already arrived on site just about now.

Orion will arrive in 3.5 hours.

C130 (beast of a plane!) to drop a datum buoy in site later today as a reference mark.

HMAS success on route but days away and equipped to recover anything re aircraft crash.

Emphasis on may be difficult to locate objects and may not be related to the crash.

Objects reasonable size and specialists believe it to be aircraft objects. Largest object 24 meters and a number smaller objects.

From the sounds of it they're on the fence about it all but believe it's adequate enough to shift resources to this area.

They can only allow 2 hours of search time when on site (which they've said on previous sea rescue searches has been sufficient).

One last thing they're mobilizing a satellite with the highest spatial resolution to the area and should have imagery soon (not sure they said a time). The images at present show a 24 meter 'blob' which comes with poor spatial resolution. They said they'll be releasing the imagery to the public some time today.

Thrill

US Navy P-8 spotter reports "significant radar returns" coming from site where possible MH370 objects spotted. ABC News