Malaysia Airlines flight MH370-Updates and Discussion

snowgal

:rolleyes:

Westernyelp

funtime93 wrote: »

They're all dead.Can we all just get over it already.

Funtime indeed

Tenger

funtime93 wrote: »

They're all dead.Can we all just get over it already.

Westernyelp wrote: »

Funtime indeed

Funtime93's post was offensive, insensitive and pointless.

Regardless of your own belief's as regards the fate of the souls onboard, the incident as a whole is worthy of discussion and debate. The aviation industry demands answers to the mystery of MH370.
In addition those crew and pax are people and deserve a modicum of respect. They are someone's father,mother,brother,sister,son, daughter... etc.


And Westernyelp just looks like a mindless follower.

Anymore along those lines will see the poster taking a short break from boards.ie

Westernyelp

Tenger wrote: »

Funtime93's post was offensive, insensitive and pointless.

Regardless of your own belief's as regards the fate of the souls onboard, the incident as a whole is worthy of discussion and debate. The aviation industry demands answers to the mystery of MH370.
In addition those crew and pax are people and deserve a modicum of respect. They are someone's father,mother,brother,sister,son, daughter... etc.


And Westernyelp just looks like a mindless follower.

Anymore along those lines will see the poster taking a short break from boards.ie

In fact I was trying too highlight the insensitivity of 'Funtime' 93's post in relation to his/her screen name. but I guess Irony is lost on some people, less of the mindless follower please

lord lucan

Westernyelp wrote: »

In fact I was trying too highlight the insensitivity of 'Funtime' 93's post in relation to his/her screen name. but I guess Irony is lost on some people, less of the mindless follower please

In future i'd suggest using one of these guys :rolleyes: or or maybe this guy :pac:. Words can be easily misconstrued,an appropriate smilie can add context to the tone of the words.

Westernyelp

lord lucan wrote: »

In future i'd suggest using one of these guys :rolleyes: or or maybe this guy :pac:. Words can be easily misconstrued,an appropriate smilie can add context to the tone of the words.

Everyone likes a nice smile I suppose although mods not being so itchy with the trigger finger would be cool too. anyway, back on topic

andy_g

Westernyelp wrote: »

Everyone likes a nice smile I suppose although mods not being so itchy with the trigger finger would be cool too. anyway, back on topic

Do not back seat moderate nor question a mod on thread this is against the terms and conditions you signed up to.

If you have a problem pm the mod in question or report the post.

vonbarracuda

Being reporters on sky news now the Aussies are confident plane was flown on auto pilot

Synode

How could they possibly determine that

nc6000

I think it's pretty obvious at this stage that they really haven't a clue what happened.

pablo128

Is there any significance to the fact no debris has been found yet? I mean, if it ditched in the sea surely it would have broken up. Personally I think it's parked up somewhere. At the risk of being accused of mocking, no-one thought Suarez would bite another player. Anything is possible.

WildWater

pablo128 wrote: »

Is there any significance to the fact no debris has been found yet? I mean, if it ditched in the sea surely it would have broken up. Personally I think it's parked up somewhere. At the risk of being accused of mocking, no-one thought Suarez would bite another player. Anything is possible.

Actually, some guy in Norway had bet that he would and won ~€2k. Just saying

the_monkey

This new search zone looks promising, this is the area that Immersat calculated the plane to be ... search starts in August and will take roughly a year to search the whole area

nc6000

the_monkey wrote: »

This new search zone looks promising, this is the area that Immersat calculated the plane to be ... search starts in August and will take roughly a year to search the whole area

So within roughly 18 months of the plane vanishing we should have some idea if it crashed there or not? :rolleyes:

kippy

nc6000 wrote: »

So within roughly 18 months of the plane vanishing we should have some idea if it crashed there or not? :rolleyes:

Yeah, thats pretty much it.

Again, I dont think people appreciate the size, remoteness and depth of the indian ocean in general never mind the terribly unpredictable weather down there.

nc6000

kippy wrote: »

Yeah, thats pretty much it.

Again, I dont think people appreciate the size, remoteness and depth of the indian ocean in general never mind the terribly unpredictable weather down there.

I'd well believe it. I think on the Horizon documentary they said that this area was basically as far from anywhere as you can get.

Tenger

the_monkey wrote: »

....... search starts in August and will take roughly a year to search the whole area

Now people might realise how massive the Southern Ocean actually is. It really looking for a needle in a haystack in a big field full of haystacks

Mountainsandh

As has been mentioned though, by now some debris should really have reached some shore.

According to people on Pprune anyway, who by this forum's standard surely are credible since most are pilots, seem to believe it could not possibly have ditched intact.

lord lucan

Mountainsandh wrote: »

According to people on Pprune anyway, who by this forum's standard surely are credible since most are pilots, seem to believe it could not possibly have ditched intact.

And Pprune is the place for such discussions,not here.

lord lucan

lord lucan wrote: »

New rules!

From this post on,anyone posting conspiracy theories will get a weeks ban from A&A. There is a relevant forum for CT's,use it.

Anyone questioning this decision or any Mod decisions will be Infracted immediately.

This was an excellent thread with some great insight before it descended into the clusterfcuk it's become. Let's get it back on track.

Edit: Conspiracy theories include the aircraft being abducted by little green men,it being landed in some random unknown airfield or been taken out by US/Korean/Japanese or some other military power. For now the common consensus is that the aircraft has been lost at sea.

Aircraft & Aviation Mod Team.

Just a reminder of the Warning that still stands.

gumbo1

The thread title says it's for speculation, some people would like to speculate that there is a conspiracy involved in the ac disappearance, how's that gonna work?

gumbo1

The thread title says it's for speculation, some people would like to speculate that there is a conspiracy involved in the ac disappearance, how's that gonna work?

Mountainsandh

As has been mentioned though, by now some debris should really have reached some shore.

According to people on Pprune anyway, who by this forum's standard surely are credible since most are pilots, seem to believe it could not possibly have ditched intact.

lord lucan wrote: »

And Pprune is the place for such discussions,not here.

So it is not permitted here to mention that the aircraft may not have ditched intact, and that debris should have washed ashore ? My reference to PPrune is simply as a credibility argument, ie, it is not just me (not a pilot) guessing that the plane should have left debris.

This is a pretty basic premise of discussion on the disappearance.
This is speculation, not conspiracy theory.

Aircraft goes missing, presumably gone down in the Indian Ocean, there should be debris, unless controlled ditching which, according to a lot of knowledgeable people in this field, is highly unlikely.

Again this is not conspiracy theory. There should be debris washed up on shore somewhere by now, it has had months to follow currents, eddy around a bit, some may have sunk, and now some bit of seat, plastic, or other should be lying on a beach somewhere.
Where is the debris ?

Calina

Mountainsandh wrote: »

As has been mentioned though, by now some debris should really have reached some shore.

Well if it washed up along the west coast of Australia which is not a particularly populated area there is absolutely no guarantee anyone would have found it unfortunately. Stretches of that coast probably don't get seen by humans from one end of the year to another particularly on the northern half of Western Australia

In other words, it's as likely to have washed up and not be found as not have washed up.

billie1b

Calina wrote: »

Well if it washed up along the west coast of Australia which is not a particularly populated area there is absolutely no guarantee anyone would have found it unfortunately. Stretches of that coast probably don't get seen by humans from one end of the year to another particularly on the northern half of Western Australia

In other words, it's as likely to have washed up and not be found as not have washed up.

Western Australia is the biggest state in Australia and has the longest coastline, patrolled by the RAN, local groups and helicopter patrols, its the most patrolled coast line in Australia due to illegal immigrants trying to enter along that particulat coast. If there was debris washed up, I reckon at least a helicopter would spot something as they fly low enough.

Tenger

gumbo1 wrote: »

The thread title says it's for speculation, some people would like to speculate that there is a conspiracy involved in the ac disappearance, how's that gonna work?

Then they can go to the Conspiracy Forum. The Mods took a line in the sand approach to this thread as it was getting out of control with random CT's been posted every 2 days. And no-one seemed to read back so the same Diego Garcia/hijack and land/ flying bomb CT's popped up every couple of days.

It may not be a perfect solution but it is the solution that has been imposed.

Duiske

Mountainsandh wrote: »

Again this is not conspiracy theory. There should be debris washed up on shore somewhere by now, it has had months to follow currents, eddy around a bit, some may have sunk, and now some bit of seat, plastic, or other should be lying on a beach somewhere.
Where is the debris ?

I posted about this before, but Ocean Gyres may explain why debris could possibly never reach shore. All the major Oceans have these gyres, basically a circular current which tends to pull debris towards the centre.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ocean_Gyre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ocean_garbage_patch

Oryx

Mountainsandh wrote: »

Where is the debris ?

It may not have washed ashore.
It washed ashore in a remote location.
It is small/random detritus and is not recognised for what it is.

In any case you cannot use the lack of debris to extrapolate that the plane did not go down in the sea. A lack of proof is not proof.

pablo128

Duiske wrote: »

I posted about this before, but Ocean Gyres may explain why debris could possibly never reach shore. All the major Oceans have these gyres, basically a circular current which tends to pull debris towards the centre.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ocean_Gyre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ocean_garbage_patch

Wouldn't that make it a little bit easier then to find debris? Find the Indian ocean garbage patch and see what's there.

kippy

Duiske wrote: »

I posted about this before, but Ocean Gyres may explain why debris could possibly never reach shore. All the major Oceans have these gyres, basically a circular current which tends to pull debris towards the centre.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ocean_Gyre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ocean_garbage_patch

Exactly. Not everything gets washed up on a beach that people frequent. For numerous reasons.
It seems to me that as with the lack of appreciation for the size of the ocean down there there is a less than normal appreciation of the fact that not all the coastling can be monitored.