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  • 09-03-2014 8:42pm
    #1
    carzony
    Registered Users Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭


    Could we add a dislike button for posts.. similar to the ''thumbs up'' feature:D:D
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    #2
    Ken.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    NO.


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    #3
    The Hill Billy
    Registered Users Posts: 22,775 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    In the context of this thread...

    facebook-unlike-thumbs-down-symbol-370x229.jpg?1349343256


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    #4
    Renegade Mechanic
    Registered Users Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Jaysus the High Horse brigade are dangerous enough without arming them with a weapon like that! :eek:


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    #5
    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Search this forum carzony, you'll find that has been asked many times.

    General consensus is that it would be bad for the site.


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    #6
    Sherbert Forest
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4 ✭Sherbert Forest


    Steve wrote: »
    General consensus is that it would be bad for the site.

    What you scared of? That the threads on this site are so sh!t they drown in down votes?

    HAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHHAHHAHHAH


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    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Why do you want it?


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    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Why do you want it?

    Because it makes it easier to be uncivil without the need for an intelligent counterpoint.

    Which is kinda what internet discussion boards are all about for most people.


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    #9
    MugMugs
    Registered Users Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    carzony wrote: »
    Could we add a dislike button for posts.. similar to the ''thumbs up'' feature:D:D

    Just Thank a post and then unthank it! Simples!


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    #10
    padd b1975
    Registered Users Posts: 10,759 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Could it be much worse than the cliquey misuse of the 'thanks' feature?




    Probably would, come to think of it.


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    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,893 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Could it be much worse than the cliquey misuse of the 'thanks' feature?




    Probably would, come to think of it.

    What cliques misuse the Thanks button? :confused:


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    aidan_walsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    An File wrote: »
    What cliques misuse the Thanks button? :confused:
    Those bloody agreeable sorts.


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    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    An File wrote: »
    What cliques misuse the Thanks button? :confused:

    Those bullying bastards that ignore my unfunny posts and thank other people's funny posts purely as a form of implicit passive aggression.


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    #14
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Why can't we ever try these things on boards. Nobody likes change but you adapt for the love of Mick.
    Nobody wanted the bloody thanks button in the beginning either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    Turtwig
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    Why can't we ever try these things on boards. Nobody likes change but you adapt for the love of Mick.
    Nobody wanted the bloody thanks button in the beginning either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The thanks button helps reduce redundant +1 posts. A down voting helps determine discussion by popularity. Essentially you create a filter bubble where the minority opinions are effectively drowned out. Numerous discussion sites us this but that doesn't mean it's correct. The whole point of discussion is exchange of ideas. On Facebook now the site is heavily filtered to show you only comments that you will like. That is rather scary. Great for revenue generating but filter bubbles are a little disconcerting. Variety is the spice of life. Boards is terrible enough without adding in down voting.


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    #16
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    Why can't we ever try these things on boards. Nobody likes change but you adapt for the love of Mick.
    Nobody wanted the bloody thanks button in the beginning either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Politics.ie had a similar dislike thing, ended up with far too much discussion about why somebody disliked their post and such nonsense.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #17
    Dav
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,840 ✭✭✭Dav


    I'd agree with Jernal's point - the idea that you're filtering the internet to only see the stuff you agree with is a genuinely frightening thought to me. How can bigotry/homophobia/sexism/racism/etc be challenged when those who continue to believe in such tripe never see a challenging opinion or "downvote" a dissenting voice out of relevance?

    The Thanks system eliminated the "+1" issue we had. It's far from perfect and I'm not suggesting that it's not open for abuse and clique nonsense, but it's better than what we had.


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    #18
    Will I Amnt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Not a great idea. You will have sad little weirdos with a grudge, disliking every post another user makes regardless of content. You can see it with the current setup, where they thank every post that disagrees with a particular poster.


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    #19
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Will I Amnt wrote: »
    Not a great idea. You will have sad little weirdos with a grudge, disliking every post another user makes regardless of content. You can see it with the current setup, where they thank every post that disagrees with a particular poster.
    Hey! :mad:


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    #20
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,118 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Sticky a notice on the top of feedback: no dislike button!

    And release Brian!


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    #21
    nesf
    Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    Why can't we ever try these things on boards. Nobody likes change but you adapt for the love of Mick.
    Nobody wanted the bloody thanks button in the beginning either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Adapt? Eh, google boards' experiments with the karma system back in 2001 or thereabouts...


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    #22
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    nesf wrote: »
    Adapt? Eh, google boards' experiments with the karma system back in 2001 or thereabouts...

    Sounds enticing! Spill the beans!! :D


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    #23
    nesf
    Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    Sounds enticing! Spill the beans!! :D

    People take downvotes very, very personally. They're also really easy to use as a weapon in personal spats. That's the short version.


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    #24
    Artful_Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    Not trying to hijack this thread, this is just an observation.

    I brought up the possible issue of people thanking abusive posts before (which imo is similar to issues a dislike feature might cause) and offered forth a solution of disabling thanks on carded posts. It was dismissed by quite a few as "thought crime" as people supposedly had some sort of inherent right to thank whoever they wanted. The argument that thanking an abusive post was tantamount to +1ing it was also dismissed by many. Yet I see Dav stating above that that is the exact reason there is a thanks feature available to begin with.

    The consensus otherwise (considering the lack of interest) seemed to have been that it wasnt an issue worth addressing despite a relatively "easy and straightforward" fix as pointed out by a member of the tech team. Or that thanks were too ambiguous to deprive people of the ability to thank whatever they wanted.

    I find it odd that people are so vehemently against a dislike feature yet view the thanks feature as some sort of inherent right and are loathed to address any issues relating to it because of the ambiguity of a "thank".

    It just strikes me as being rather contradictory to take both the position of avoiding addressing issues with the thanks feature because thanks are too ambiguous and its tantamount to thought crime while at the same time dismissing the idea of a dislike feature because people may abuse it, or use it to filter what they want to see.

    They are either both "rights" of the user to decide what they want to like and dislike and filter or not filter. Or they are just features that serve a purpose that can be adopted or changed at will. So if there is nothing to be gained from implementing a dislike feature other than problems, why the reluctance to the limit the ability of users to thank certain posts when it is a problem that people can without repercussion thank posts that are clearly not wanted on this website ?


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    #25
    Ken.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    Artful_Badger wrote: »
    Not trying to hijack this thread, this is just an observation.

    I brought up the possible issue of people thanking abusive posts before (which imo is similar to issues a dislike feature might cause) and offered forth a solution of disabling thanks on carded posts. It was dismissed by quite a few as "thought crime" as people supposedly had some sort of inherent right to thank whoever they wanted. The argument that thanking an abusive post was tantamount to +1ing it was also dismissed by many. Yet I see Dav stating above that that is the exact reason there is a thanks feature available to begin with.

    The consensus otherwise (considering the lack of interest) seemed to have been that it wasnt an issue worth addressing despite a relatively "easy and straightforward" fix as pointed out by a member of the tech team. Or that thanks were too ambiguous to deprive people of the ability to thank whatever they wanted.

    I find it odd that people are so vehemently against a dislike feature yet view the thanks feature as some sort of inherent right and are loathed to address any issues relating to it because of the ambiguity of a "thank".

    It just strikes me as being rather contradictory to take both the position of avoiding addressing issues with the thanks feature because thanks are too ambiguous and its tantamount to thought crime while at the same time dismissing the idea of a dislike feature because people may abuse it, or use it to filter what they want to see.

    They are either both "rights" of the user to decide what they want to like and dislike and filter or not filter. Or they are just features that serve a purpose that can be adopted or changed at will. So if there is nothing to be gained from implementing a dislike feature other than problems, why the reluctance to the limit the ability of users to thank certain posts when it is a problem that people can without repercussion thank posts that are clearly not wanted on this website ?
    We're Irish, we like things exactly the way they are. What's hard to understand about that?


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    #26
    Czarcasm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Badger please correct me if I'm misreading your post but it seems like what you're suggesting is the way to fix one problem is to come up with a 'solution' that creates even more problems?


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    #27
    Artful_Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Badger please correct me if I'm misreading your post but it seems like what you're suggesting is the way to fix one problem is to come up with a 'solution' that creates even more problems?

    What problems are created ? I'm not suggesting implementing the dislike feature btw. Just wondering why its such a no go despite the thanks feature being seen as untouchable lest you tell people what they should and shouldnt thank.


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    #28
    Czarcasm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Artful_Badger wrote: »
    What problems are created ? I'm not suggesting implement the dislike feature btw.


    So... in a thread discussing the implementation of a dislike feature where the general consensus is that it's not necessary to implement a dislike feature, you're not suggesting implementing the dislike feature either...

    Ok now I'm really confused! :confused:


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    #29
    Artful_Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    So... in a thread discussing the implementation of a dislike feature where the general consensus is that it's not necessary to implement a dislike feature, you're not suggesting implementing the dislike feature either...

    Ok now I'm really confused! :confused:
    Artful_Badger wrote: »
    Not trying to hijack this thread, this is just an observation.

    I brought up the possible issue of people thanking abusive posts before (which imo is similar to issues a dislike feature might cause) and offered forth a solution of disabling thanks on carded posts. It was dismissed by quite a few as "thought crime" as people supposedly had some sort of inherent right to thank whoever they wanted. The argument that thanking an abusive post was tantamount to +1ing it was also dismissed by many. Yet I see Dav stating above that that is the exact reason there is a thanks feature available to begin with.

    The consensus otherwise (considering the lack of interest) seemed to have been that it wasnt an issue worth addressing despite a relatively "easy and straightforward" fix as pointed out by a member of the tech team. Or that thanks were too ambiguous to deprive people of the ability to thank whatever they wanted.

    I find it odd that people are so vehemently against a dislike feature yet view the thanks feature as some sort of inherent right and are loathed to address any issues relating to it because of the ambiguity of a "thank".

    It just strikes me as being rather contradictory to take both the position of avoiding addressing issues with the thanks feature because thanks are too ambiguous and its tantamount to thought crime while at the same time dismissing the idea of a dislike feature because people may abuse it, or use it to filter what they want to see.

    They are either both "rights" of the user to decide what they want to like and dislike and filter or not filter. Or they are just features that serve a purpose that can be adopted or changed at will. So if there is nothing to be gained from implementing a dislike feature other than problems, why the reluctance to the limit the ability of users to thank certain posts when it is a problem that people can without repercussion thank posts that are clearly not wanted on this website ?
    Artful_Badger wrote: »
    What problems are created ? I'm not suggesting implementing the dislike feature btw. Just wondering why its such a no go despite the thanks feature being seen as untouchable lest you tell people what they should and shouldnt thank.


    Reading those might help with your confusion.


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    #30
    Czarcasm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Artful_Badger wrote: »
    Reading those might help with your confusion.


    Never mind, forget I asked tbh :o


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    #31
    Gordon
    Registered Users Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    OK so I've read through the archive and have found the relevant posts/threads regarding karma from 2001:

    Here is probably the most relevant one. (I'm hoping people can read the archive?!)

    Now, background reading in chronological order from oldest to newest*:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=243502
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=243596
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=244017
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=243926
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=244178
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=244467
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=244811
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=241585
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=241709
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=241829
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=241863
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=241816
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=242001
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=242088
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=242302
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=242353
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=242580
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=242364
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=242461
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=271836

    *may not be true


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