(How about a thread on the) Best Starter Kits?

the_syco

Hey all,

Thought I'd start a thread where people would list what starter kits they'd recommend, how much they are, and where to get them?

I thought this thread would be good, as I'm always asked what kits people should get, and as I now buy parts from random places, don't know. It also may be a good reference for other people as well.

The kits should have a charger, at least one battery (preferably two), a clearo/carto/tank/etc, some sample juice, and be under €100

Preferably available within Ireland, but not necessarily from a bricks and mortar shop. This is to ensure a fast (under a week) delivery time, as I find those looking to switch can be fickle, and not able to wait.

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I used to recommend the Kanger Twist Starter Kit for €56 as it had 3 sample juices, 2 batteries, etc, but I've had some bad feedback (lots of gurgling) from one of the more recent convertees, I'm not so inclined to recommend it.

Fratton Fred

I've been using the evod twist quite a bit lately. I think this is a superb starter kit.

http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/evodtwistkit.htm

Neil_Sedaka

For a starter kit, I would recommend something quite simple but easily upgraded.
I don't think beginners need variable voltage to start with TBH.

A 650, 900 (My choice) or 1100mah battery and a simple clearomizer like the Evod or H2 (again my favourite) would suffice for any new vaper.

I would also advise them to steer well clear of anything that tries to resemble a real cigarette.

18mg strength liquid in a few small samples to get a taste for what you like.

Actually the whole thing is here for about €16!

EGriff

I thought we were all in agreement that the Aspire was the best clearo now:

http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/aspirespin.htm

Neil_Sedaka

No not me, Dual coil and VV for beginners?? I think they would find it too much of a learning curve.

EGriff

It being dual coil makes no difference to a beginner, you change the coil head same as any other clearo. And as for VV, set it to 4V and move up or down as you want. Not much of a learning curve there in fairness.

masonchat

EGriff wrote: »

I thought we were all in agreement that the Aspire was the best clearo now:

http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/aspirespin.htm

they seem to be constantly changing that offer , now with 1 bottle HOL not sure its a good choice for a starter juice what with steeping n all,

this is my first proper kit and what id recommend

wingnut32

masonchat wrote: »

they seem to be constantly changing that offer , now with 1 bottle HOL not sure its a good choice for a starter juice what with steeping n all,

this is my first proper kit and what id recommend

In fairness it was always one bottle of hol, no steeping required

Neil_Sedaka

EGriff wrote: »

It being dual coil makes no difference to a beginner, you change the coil head same as any other clearo. And as for VV, set it to 4V and move up or down as you want. Not much of a learning curve there in fairness.

Big difference in price though, €54 as opposed to €16
Most beginners would want to test the water for as little outlay as possible, in case vaping wasn't for them.

Also, I didn't like the Aspire tank, too airy and hot a hit from it for me.

wingnut32

Neil_Sedaka wrote: »

No not me, Dual coil and VV for beginners?? I think they would find it too much of a learning curve.

I disagree, people catch on pretty quick. The great thing about a vv starter kit is that it gives the user an option and more of a chance to succeed.

Neil_Sedaka

wingnut32 wrote: »

I disagree, people catch on pretty quick. The great thing about a vv starter kit is that it gives the user an option and more of a chance to succeed.

I disagree with that, I think it just complicates things for the beginner TBH.
Keep it simple, with quality parts!

wingnut32

Neil_Sedaka wrote: »

I disagree with that, I think it just complicates things for the beginner TBH.
Keep it simple, with quality parts!

Believe me, I see this every day with various people and I have yet to meet anybody who said it was over complicated.

Turn the dial up=stronger hit, turn it down= softer hit. Simples!

Neil_Sedaka

wingnut32 wrote: »

Believe me, I see this every day with various people and I have yet to meet anybody who said it was over complicated.

Overpriced for the beginner though! It's a device geared more towards the seasoned vaper.

I never even heard about variable voltage until I was happily vaping for over 18 months!

I honestly think it's overkill.

wingnut32

Neil_Sedaka wrote: »

Overpriced for the beginner though! It's a device geared more towards the seasoned vaper.

I never even heard about variable voltage until I was happily vaping for over 18 months!

I honestly think it's overkill.

Again, I disagree. Some people are quite happy on a regular 3.7 battery but there are those that are not and thats where the having the option of the vv comes in. Ive talked to many people who show up with some knock off ego battery with a bog standard clearo where you cant even change the head looking for something better.

I do agree with you on quality parts though, sometimes the branded stuff is more expensive than cheap ego batteries that you can import for a dollar!

masonchat

wingnut32 wrote: »

In fairness it was always one bottle of hol, no steeping required

I got 3 bottles of wingnuts or mom and pops cant remember which with mine 6 week ago , recently saw it offered with 4 bottles now 1 HOL, was 650mah as basic when i got it now 900mah

grindle

VV was the thing that convinced me it was a permanent change rather than a "maybe this'll work" proposition.

It might seem a little alien to a newbie but PCs, smartphones and tablets are much more daunting to a newbie, yet they all manage to get their heads around it for the benefits.

The price is small considering the much larger cost of buying the almost-satisfying first kit, then the actually-satisfying second. I realise I'm saying that on a specialist forum and most vapers are possibly getting by with fixed-voltage, low-power devices. I'd always rather they weren't just getting by.
People on NRT get by then fail. I want them to be convinced.

wingnut32

masonchat wrote: »

I got 3 bottles of wingnuts or mom and pops cant remember which with mine 6 week ago , recently saw it offered with 4 bottles now 1 HOL, was 650mah as basic when i got it now 900mah

Your mixing the aspire kit and the kanger twist kit up, they are two seperate kits

masonchat

wingnut32 wrote: »

Your mixing the aspire kit and the kanger twist kit up, they are two seperate kits

My sincerest apologies my good man , i stand not for the first time on this site corrected

EDIT hardware wise which would you say is best , my dad is considering takin the plunge from cigalike,

Neil_Sedaka

Grand, not willing to get into an argument here

My point is simply this, a 900mah battery, a H2 clearomizer and some juice should give any new vaper a taste of things to come for less than €20

Perhaps after a few months they may want to try a VTR or an Eflare.
If I was to recommend a kit to family or friends tomorrow, I would tell them to get the H2 kit.

Cheers.

accaguest

The first battery I got was an Ego Twist but I never used the VV. I don't think many would do either. You've kind of only got a very few juices and all your clearos (if you even have more than one) are probably going to be the same so when would you really.

It adds a little confusion imo, because I kept feeling I should be using it, but never got any benefit and then wondered was there something I wasn't doing right.

Evod kit for me. 3.7v, BCC, only slight gurgling and a little TLC required with the genuine kits, and they look and feel good.

Still use it (along with Janty clearos), no real plan to change.

wingnut32

masonchat wrote: »

My sincerest apologies my good man , i stand not for the first time on this site corrected

EDIT hardware wise which would you say is best , my dad is considering takin the plunge from cigalike,

TBH I think the spinners are better although others would disagree with me. Essentially they are both the same kit though.

masonchat

http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/aspirespin.htm this said 2 900mah few min ago now 2 650mah batteries i have the 2 pages open infront of me b4 anyone says ive vaped too tuch

Neil_Sedaka

Looks like they downgraded the batteries from 900 to crappy 650 ones.

wingnut32

Neil_Sedaka wrote: »

Looks like they downgraded the batteries from 900 to crappy 650 ones.

Now now Neil, no reason to be sore. Those batteries are genuine, no knockoff's.

masonchat

I think were being watched neil :eek:

Neil_Sedaka

wingnut32 wrote: »

Now now Neil, no reason to be sore. Those batteries are genuine, no knockoff's.

I don't understand what you mean by that, please elaborate?

Neil_Sedaka

masonchat wrote: »

I think were being watched neil :eek:

Would appear so!

wingnut32

Neil_Sedaka wrote: »

I don't understand what you mean by that, please elaborate?

Perhaps you can first explain why you think the batteries are crappy?

thewintermute

The kit I would recommend now is a protank mini with a VV battery. (Generic ego style, get two). Saves having to upgrade once you get a good one to begin. Doesn't cost the earth on fasttech.com either. A hell of a lot cheaper and better than the 'kits' being sold to the newbies in shopping centres up and down the land.

dePeatrick

Had vv batteries on egos and thought them a total waste of time tbh....turn the voltage up and a burnt taste.....preferred the no variable voltage egos until I got mods with IMR batteries, way better, twist or VV egos way over-rated IMO....

wingnut32

dePeatrick wrote: »

Had vv batteries on egos and thought them a total waste of time tbh....turn the voltage up and a burnt taste.....preferred the no variable voltage egos until I got mods with IMR batteries, way better, twist or VV egos way over-rated IMO....

Any issues Ive ever had with a burnt taste was the clearo/atomizer and not the battery..strange.