UFC 171

Artful_Badger

Great fight. Hendricks is one tough bastard.

Gumbi

Great fight. Hendricks's mixing up (left knee in the clinch and kicks to Robbie's leg mixed in with his boxing) eventually paid off vs Robbie's one dimensional approach.

ASOT

Fairly good card, I liked the 2am start aswell! I think woodly would have beat condit regardless of the injury, would love to see him get a shot at Hendricks, OSP looked very good but tht could be down to the quality of his opponent.

Was well worth stayin up for anyway.

Devastator

is it just me that hated the way Henriks went for takedown to win the last round? It was 2 each going into the last & he was clearly having the better of the standup in the round & may have went on to ko him or win it on the feet but he went for takedown, kinda ruined a great fight for me.

I'm not taking anything away from him because I think he was going onto win either way.

weemcd

Devastator wrote: »

is it just me that hated the way Henriks went for takedown to win the last round? It was 2 each going into the last & he was clearly having the better of the standup in the round & may have went on to ko him or win it on the feet but he went for takedown, kinda ruined a great fight for me.

I'm not taking anything away from him because I think he was going onto win either way.

Nah Lawler seemed pretty pissed at the end about that too, and a little punch drunk.

I have to say that was a hell of a scrap, Robbie is very, very unlucky here. That was a close fight, and one I'd really like to see again. And some stats from more than once source.

Gumbi

weemcd wrote: »

Nah Lawler seemed pretty pissed at the end about that too, and a little punch drunk.

I have to say that was a hell of a scrap, Robbie is very, very unlucky here. That was a close fight, and one I'd really like to see again. And some stats from more than once source.

I think Hendricks had it regardless but the lay and pray for the last 30 seconds was somewhat bothersome.

Robbie was just too one dimensional, and Hendrickses kicks knees and boxing eventually added up.

darced

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Mellor

ASOT wrote: »

Fairly good card, I liked the 2am start aswell!

Start time didn't change, the US clocks just changed before the uriah ones. It'll be 3am next time

Devastator

darced wrote: »

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lol was thinking myself reminded me a bit of GSP making sure of the round, well at least he has learnt something from his last fight.

Mellor wrote: »

Start time didn't change, the US clocks just changed before the uriah ones. It'll be 3am next time

Main card is 11pm next week, its from Natal Brazil which is only 3 hour time difference which I find weird. Your prob right for next vegas fight though.

raze_them_all_

guys it was hardly the easy way out, he was 2-2 round wise, the take down guaranteed the belt, it was intelligent

Davei141

One of the most enjoyable fights I have ever seen, easy to score too. Hendricks bigger gas tank in the 5th won it for him. Great card overall.

Artful_Badger

Yeah intelligent end by hendricks to secure the belt.

stealinhorses

For some reason the main event felt kinda meh to me. They were standing nose to nose clawing at each other for the majority of the fight.

I don't know, I already miss GSP and his notion of a "gameplan" and his technicality in fights. Can't see Hendricks being a respected champion in the same way even the likes of Velasquez or Barao are.

Felt awful for Condit. Hopefully it's not that serious, but seeing him go down like that was reminiscent of Anderson in December. Woodley looked good up until that moment, though he looked like he was tiring.

Lombard vs Shields was forgettable. I reckon Woodley will get the next shot, but I also wouldn't mind seeing Rory and Hendricks face off. Maybe Rory vs Lombard title shot eliminator to get the winner of Hendricks vs Woodley.

Cyber Ghost

Wish Rogan would stfu in fairness. It's no secret Dana has no love for hector and Joe is just his beaatch. Hector beat up and absolutely ragdolled the best grappler in the division and Joe said he sucked and doesn't deserve a title shot.

MrStuffins

Shields is a disgrace! What a stinking performance last night. Someone with such poor stand up skills shouldn't be being put on main cards against top guys! It was embarrassing watching him last night!

Cyber Ghost

MrStuffins wrote: »

Shields is a disgrace! What a stinking performance last night. Someone with such poor stand up skills shouldn't be being put on main cards against top guys! It was embarrassing watching him last night!

Jake has won four in a row and was Strike force champ for years. He deserves to be on main cards. Hector is just awesome. Those judo throws were sick. How one judge gave shields a round lol. And the first was a 10-8 easily

Cyber Ghost

If Ronda was doing that judo Rogan would have been jumping out of his seat.

Hector held out for a large contract and the UFC brass hate him for it.

I think Lombard beats Hendricks easily tbh. Hendricks is a walking punching bag and I think Hector puts him to sleep

MrStuffins

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

Jake has won four in a row and was Strike force champ for years. He deserves to be on main cards. Hector is just awesome. Those judo throws were sick. How one judge gave shields a round lol. And the first was a 10-8 easily

When was the last time he was in an exciting fight? I can't stand to watch him.

MrStuffins

"Shields has completed just one of 37 takedowns attempts over the course of his past three UFC appearances."

Jaysus!

Gumbi

MrStuffins wrote: »

"Shields has completed just one of 37 takedowns attempts over the course of his past three UFC appearances."

Jaysus!

Ouch. They all seemed like desperation attempts last night. No way he was taking Lombard down with those. Gotta set em up with some good striking, some that Shields sorely lacks. Those kicks last night were very poor indeed.

Davei141

Lombard was a horrible match up for shields stylistically, he never had a hope. Calling him a disgrace is not on.

unknown13

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

Wish Rogan would stfu in fairness. It's no secret Dana has no love for hector and Joe is just his beaatch. Hector beat up and absolutely ragdolled the best grappler in the division and Joe said he sucked and doesn't deserve a title shot.

Thats the first I have heard of Dana hating on Lombard.

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

Hector held out for a large contract and the UFC brass hate him for it.

That is total shít. Hector could not get a visa to the US for a good while because he is from Cuba. The UFC had a deal with him but found out he couldn't get a US visa at the time and couldn't sign him. Would have caused too much problems if they signed him.

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

And the first was a 10-8 easily

it was an easy 10-9 round. Miles from a 10-8.

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billy2012

Good night of fights.

Poor Condit, he was just getting warmed up, he would of knocked Woodley out!!!

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dave1982

Enjoyable card, Robbie could have won the fight if he pushed the paced and went for the finish the old Robbie would have went for the kill.


Jason von Flue I remember from TUF 2,I can't find a single video of tuf online with him

Hoki

Great card , some really good fights . Was gutted for Condit , I think he would have gone on to win the fight . He ate 2 or 3 massive punches in that first round and yet still kept pushing the action . We'll be lucky to see him in action again this year.

Hendricks v Lawler was brilliant . Hendricks striking in the first 2 rounds was so good , he mixed it up brilliantly and looked in total control . When that big uppercut landed by Lawler in the 3rd Hendricks was in trouble and didnt really recover until the last round . Lawler had put so much into the 4 rounds he totally gassed during the 5th and if Hendricks hadnt taken him down i think he could have finished him anyway .

I'd imagine it will be Hendricks vs Woodley in August/September , Lombard vs Macdonald could happen with the winner fighting for the belt after Woodley.

Devastator

I dont understand why people are saying woodly or lombard deserve next title shot, both are only on 2 fight win streaks whereas stun gun Kim is on 4 fight streak, recently had a great looking ko of Hathaway and only has 1 real defeat on his record(vs condit) hes been in the UFC for years so more than deserves a shot IMO

p to the e

Davei141 wrote: »

One of the most enjoyable fights I have ever seen, easy to score too. Hendricks bigger gas tank in the 5th won it for him. Great card overall.

You'd think wouldn't you? When I heard that all three judges got it at 48-47 I thought that it was a decent outcome for them. But then I saw this.....

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/442231/The-curious-case-of-Hendricks-vs-Lawler-judging/

darced

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Mellor

Cyber Ghost wrote: »

Wish Rogan would stfu in fairness. It's no secret Dana has no love for hector and Joe is just his beaatch. Hector beat up and absolutely ragdolled the best grappler in the division and Joe said he sucked and doesn't deserve a title shot.

Shields is the best grappler in division?? Maia might have something so say about that. Surely Lomard is ahead of him also, so he is no. 3 at best. Although, I think Hendricks and Dony Hyun Kim would be close for the spot also.
When he crossed over from SF, there was this commotion about his American JiuJitsu, but it never materialized into anything.

The reality is that Shields isn't that good. His win over Henderson caused his stock to rise massively. But he's 3-3-1 in the UFC for a reason.

p to the e wrote: »

You'd think wouldn't you? When I heard that all three judges got it at 48-47 I thought that it was a decent outcome for them. But then I saw this.....

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/442231/The-curious-case-of-Hendricks-vs-Lawler-judging/

How did he manage that???

Devastator

p to the e wrote: »

You'd think wouldn't you? When I heard that all three judges got it at 48-47 I thought that it was a decent outcome for them. But then I saw this.....

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/442231/The-curious-case-of-Hendricks-vs-Lawler-judging/

:eek: Never would have had 2nd round as 10-8 or last round a draw....he must have been watching a different fight lol

darced wrote: »

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Hendriks would spark out most people though, I didn't see the Hathaway fight(just the ko) but if he's not in contention for a title shot then it makes a mockery of fight streaks, might aswell give Nick Diaz a chance lol. Could all be useless discussion though depending on GSP's future

darced

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Wrongway1985

Devastator wrote: »

Hendriks would spark out most people though, I didn't see the Hathaway fight(just the ko) but if he's not in contention for a title shot then it makes a mockery of fight streaks, might aswell give Nick Diaz a chance lol. Could all be useless discussion though depending on GSP's future

I take it you mean Stungun should be in contention, I personally would put a few ahead I mean Matt Brown is on a 6 fight win streak (5 ko's) and you don't hear people putting him in the mix either.

For me it should be Woodley as it was assumed his match v Condit was a number 1 contender match by most but lots went off the idea after the unfortunate way Condit went out.

Pairing Woodley V Lombard at this point in time both teamates wouldn't make sense either would a Lawler/Woodley bout as they are friends.

These would be the matches I'd make to get more answers in the division

Hendricks V Woodley
Lawler V Diaz 2
Lombard V Rory
Hataway V Shields
Stungun V Pyle

Mellor

Devastator wrote: »

Hendriks would spark out most people though, I didn't see the Hathaway fight(just the ko) but if he's not in contention for a title shot then it makes a mockery of fight streaks, might aswell give Nick Diaz a chance lol. Could all be useless discussion though depending on GSP's future

A mockery of fight streaks?
Since when does the longest streak decide contendership?
Who you beat is far more important that how many. To the extent that I'd say that "fight streak" in isolation is irrelevant.

Devastator

dave1982 wrote: »

Jason von Flue I remember from TUF 2,I can't find a single video of tuf online with him

Bit of coincidence I just seen hes fighting in cage contender in Belfast in about a months time...if ya cant find a video go see him in person

Mellor wrote: »

A mockery of fight streaks?
Since when does the longest streak decide contendership?
Who you beat is far more important that how many. To the extent that I'd say that "fight streak" in isolation is irrelevant.

I didn't mean it to sound like the be all and end all, I just feel Woodley & Lombard don't deserve it just yet, another couple of wins each and then theres no arguement

Mellor

Devastator wrote: »

I didn't mean it to sound like the be all and end all, I just feel Woodley & Lombard don't deserve it just yet, another couple of wins each and then theres no arguement

I don't think Lombard has an clear outright claim to it after only two fights at WW, but you also have to consider that he jumped into a top 5 fight much quicker than normal. I'd rate both his wins over Marquardt & Shields as being more significant than any of Kim's opponents. Realistically, none of them were in the top 20. I think Brandon Tatch has an 8 or 9 fight streak, again, because of who it was against, he's not top 20 yet himsekf.

The injury win takes away some steam from Woodley's win.

We can't forget Rory McDonald either, he lost to the divisions No. 2, he still had the potential be the number 3, the dominated Maia.

My top 5 would be;

1. Johnny Hendricks
2. Robbie Lawlor
3. Rory MacDonald
4. Hector Lombard
5. Tyron Woodley

Depending on injuries and timings, it makes sense for MacDonald to fight either Woodley or Lombard and the winner getting a title shot.

Or if they want Johnny to defend in sooner, I'd give it to Rory over Lombard.

Ush1

I think it should be Lombard, a journalist made the point that Lombard beat both Shields and Marquardt and both those guys beat Woodley.

unknown13

I would give it to Lombard because it is a much more appealing fight. Both good strikers with power who can take each other down when they want. Woodley and Mc Donald should fight each other as a headliner on a fight night card.

adamski8

I still condit would beat all of them. Be should have fought for the title not lawler.

califano

Little to do with the way it ended but i dont think Condit was fit watching that fight.

adamski8

califano wrote: »

Little to do with the way it ended but i dont think Condit was fit watching that fight.

He was still superior to woodley.

adamski8

califano wrote: »

Little to do with the way it ended but i dont think Condit was fit watching that fight.

He was still superior to woodley.

Davei141

adamski8 wrote: »

He was still superior to woodley.

Woodley took that first round everyday of the week.

adamski8

Davei141 wrote: »

Woodley took that first round everyday of the week.

Sure thing but condit was getting the better of him as the fight went on

kearneybobs

Woodley looked like he had gassed by the third minute of the first round.

Wrongway1985

adamski8 wrote: »

Sure thing but condit was getting the better of him as the fight went on

What?? so u agree he lost the first round but then think he bossed the whole 2 mins that the second went on for but Condit was superior, crazy talk

Dtp1979

It was obvious woodley was slowing down but it's impossible to know who would have won it. Maybe woodley was just pacing himself in the second round

billy2012

Condit always takes a while to get warmed up, no doubt he would of finished Woodley!!

adamski8

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

What?? so u agree he lost the first round but then think he bossed the whole 2 mins that the second went on for but Condit was superior, crazy talk

Eh i dont care who won or didnt win the round. I was saying condit is a superior fighter and turned the tide in the first and was starting to dominate on the feet and was so threatening on the ground that woodley was just letting him up and woodley was gassing/standing still.

Im saying condit is the better fighter and if he didnt get that injury then i think he would have won. In saying all that woodley did take him down pretty easily. I surprised lawler got the shot ahead of him. Hope condit recovers soon.

p to the e

Woodley definitely took the first but I was always of the mind that we were just waiting for Condit to finish him. Who knows Woodley could have kept up the same game plan or burned himself out. Disappointing what happened in the end.

Sanchez has quite a decent submission game but he seems to prefer this berserker model he uses. As we saw Jury wasn't drawn into it for the most part so it just isn't going to work.

Really impressed with Dennins Bermudez. If Brandao is successful against Chope this weekend I foresee a rematch and a chance for Bermudez to get revenge.