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Light Colour Sound Festival - Shankhill Castle - Kilkenny - 4th & 5th July 2014
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I've very mixed views on the weekend.
The venue, the stages, the line-up, the stalls, the vibe/atmosphere - all excellent, and no agro that I came across.
My highlight of the weekend were the Barley Mob, they never disappoint
But the BYOB policy...which turned out to not actually be a BYOB policy, well that sucked! The bar closed at 11pm, but you still weren't allowed to bring your own drink into the arena...even though some of the stages were going on until 2am...wtf? Not everyone wants/likes to drink craft beer, so once in the arena, there were no other options. One girl I spoke to had purchased a pint from the bar, nipped back to her tent, and then wasn't allowed back into the arena, with the pint that she'd just bought from the bar...seriously? eh?
There were no portaloos at all in the campervan field, so they paid more to recieve less, and only one bank of portaloos in the arena, nowhere near any of the stages.
I came home feeling that the festival has masses of potential, but was just a bit crap really.
The organisers got a lot of things spot on, but there are also some major creases to be ironed out if they plan to do it again! The phrase "bitten off more than they could chew", springs to mind.
The pricing structure, with camping as an additional charge on top of the weekend ticket...how does that work? Oh and not forgetting the other additional charge for car parking. Struck me as just a little bit greedy. If you buy a weekend festival ticket, you don't expect to pay extra to pitch your tent!
I would like to see it run again, and I'd probably go and give it a second chance...but the organisers need to really cop on to what people were complaining about this year, and learn from it. I wouldn't give it a third chance.
Roll on Knockanstockan :cool:0 -
Disclaimer: I volunteered at the festival. However, I'm going to try and be as objective as possible.
Dan le Sac vs Scroobius Pip: Wow. I feel that the artists were being complete Sacs. What I heard on site about their reason for pulling out paints DLSvsSP in a very bad light but won't go into it because essentially it's still 'grapevine'. :rolleyes: Though I do know for fact the festival didn't have "at least two weeks notice" - punters were told about it as soon as it was confirmed through DLSvsSP's management.
It's only when I got home and saw DLSVSSP's carry on on facebook made me genuinely disgusted with them. Divas.
Anyway, the festival itself: I was part of pre-production so got the festival off to enjoy. And I did enjoy it, as did plenty of people, looking at the photos and stuff. It's not every festival you see hula hoopers casually hula hooping to the act on stage - the crowd we got were great craic in fairness. I think at one point on Saturday morning the *entire* campsite was singing in unison (I was destroyed from working the week so was not singing at 5am...)
There were definitely snags but I don't think people were so put off by the snags that it destroyed their weekend - I just think in comparison to well established (and experienced) festivals people feel short changed. With that in mind, for a first festival I think it went great.
The line up was actually better than I originally anticipated, I saw Overhead, the Albatross and Halves billed and was a bit blind to everything else until the weekend got underway and literally had a band I wanted to see in every time slot...that's never happened to me at a festival before.
Price wise, I wasn't paying much attention because I got in in exchange for a week's blood, stress and tears...ok no tears but definitely spider bites. But if it feels expensive compared to other festivals from what I gather, talking to people I know in bands and stuff, it's because LCS paid way more acts than other festivals are willing to, so y'know...(So yeah, issue with DLSvsSP not payment either it would seem)
Personally, I think it did it's job as music festival and because that's all I cared about (sorry, but I really hate children
) I had an amazing weekend - just the supporting bits, like child friendliness and toilets, got a bit left behind. I entirely missed the spoken word tent but that was supposedly a roaring success. On that alone I think it's going to be amazing next year cause I can see a whole pile of potential and (hand on heart) I have a lot of faith in the vision of the organisors.
So if the line up appeals to you in 2015 I reckon it'll be worth giving a second chance. My vibe talking to organisers in the aftermath was that a lot was learned so it wouldn't surprise me if it took huge strides next year. 2015 will be the teller - it'll be interesting to see how it goes.0 -
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pervertedcoffee wrote: »...
There were definitely snags but I don't think people were so put off by the snags that it destroyed their weekend - I just think in comparison to well established (and experienced) festivals people feel short changed. With that in mind, for a first festival I think it went great.
I don't think it went "great" ... sure we all expect a few snags at a first festival, but constantly re-arranging stage slots without any communication is anything but great.Personally, I think it did it's job as music festival and because that's all I cared about (sorry, but I really hate children) I had an amazing weekend - just the supporting bits, like child friendliness and toilets, got a bit left behind.
OK.. here is my issue .. the website stated clearly that this was a family friendly festival (with a complete list of activities that did not occur) and we choose our festivals based on statements like this.. So we looked at this and thought "okay its a bit pricey for what it is, but there will be loads for the young one, so let's go". So while a website is not a binding contract, promises broken = loss of trust. Lack of trust means I can't believe what is stated next year. We feel that we were lied to, and because we laid out our hard earned cash based on a lie, we feel swindled. Hey maybe that's just me, and maybe you don't mind paying for something and getting something else, but I do. Believe me .. a bored 9 year old for two days does not make for a pleasant experience. Thankfully we are smart enough to make sure that Nintendo is charged enough for two day's usage.
I also don't trust the opinion of anyone who hates kids
So if the line up appeals to you in 2015 I reckon it'll be worth giving a second chance. My vibe talking to organisers in the aftermath was that a lot was learned so it wouldn't surprise me if it took huge strides next year. 2015 will be the teller - it'll be interesting to see how it goes.
Except that the stated line up also cannot be trusted.
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intheknow14 wrote: »Lol.. Stinks of damage control... In about two months time this thread will be full of posts from unpaid artists and contractors... Dlsvssp might even get wind of this thread and may clarify the situation (seeing as promoters will be unable to delete their posts here!)
Should make for interesting reading:-S
Your right, it probably does stink of damage control but it's not intentional and like I said at the start of my post I volunteered, I have no formal connection to the festival. (My spat at DLSvsSP not a helper on that front; I just really wanted somewhere to bitch about the situation to be perfectly honest after the carry on. Itch scratched, make of it what you will.)
I'll give an example, there were no showers during the festival. The organisors hadn't realised they would be "competing" with Glasto for them so they left it too late. That's something they've now realised. That's only something small now mind, but it applies to the greater snags that I heard them acknowledge too. (Including the child friendliness - the full intention was there and I was making decor for the kids area up till the end - I don't know if people pulled out or what though intention doesn't help a bored 9 yr old, I know)
In fact the reason I'm not being totally open about everything I know is because I'm not part of the festival and don't feel comfortable going into too much detail (I'm hoping showers are an innocent enough example
)
So, this opinion is informed ONLY by my experience of the people I worked with and what I saw/heard/experienced on site but I think a lot of what went wrong was down to inexperience. The organisors now have experience. I'm putting two and two together here and thinking Potential + Experience = better 2015 festival BUT I could be TOTALLY WRONG.
Because of the Irish indie line up I'm super excited about this festival and just selfishly really hope that people do give it a second chance. Stage times was definitely a bummer (Halves and Overhead, the Albatross clashed when they weren't supposed to
) if it was me I'd probably have put up a poster of changes...I don't know how effective that would be though. 0 -
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"Because of the Irish indie line up I'm super excited about this festival and just selfishly really hope that people do give it a second chance. Stage times was definitely a bummer (Halves and Overhead, the Albatross clashed when they weren't supposed to ) if it was me I'd probably have put up a poster of changes...I don't know how effective that would be though."
A poster change or a notice anywhere even on the gates or what not would have been better then nothing at all.0 -
pervertedcoffee wrote: »Disclaimer: I volunteered at the festival. However, I'm going to try and be as objective as possible.
Dan le Sac vs Scroobius Pip: Wow. I feel that the artists were being complete Sacs. What I heard on site about their reason for pulling out paints DLSvsSP in a very bad light but won't go into it because essentially it's still 'grapevine'. :rolleyes: Though I do know for fact the festival didn't have "at least two weeks notice" - punters were told about it as soon as it was confirmed through DLSvsSP's management.
It's only when I got home and saw DLSVSSP's carry on on facebook made me genuinely disgusted with them. Divas.
Anyway, the festival itself: I was part of pre-production so got the festival off to enjoy. And I did enjoy it, as did plenty of people, looking at the photos and stuff. It's not every festival you see hula hoopers casually hula hooping to the act on stage - the crowd we got were great craic in fairness. I think at one point on Saturday morning the *entire* campsite was singing in unison (I was destroyed from working the week so was not singing at 5am...)
There were definitely snags but I don't think people were so put off by the snags that it destroyed their weekend - I just think in comparison to well established (and experienced) festivals people feel short changed. With that in mind, for a first festival I think it went great.
The line up was actually better than I originally anticipated, I saw Overhead, the Albatross and Halves billed and was a bit blind to everything else until the weekend got underway and literally had a band I wanted to see in every time slot...that's never happened to me at a festival before.
Price wise, I wasn't paying much attention because I got in in exchange for a week's blood, stress and tears...ok no tears but definitely spider bites. But if it feels expensive compared to other festivals from what I gather, talking to people I know in bands and stuff, it's because LCS paid way more acts than other festivals are willing to, so y'know...(So yeah, issue with DLSvsSP not payment either it would seem)
Personally, I think it did it's job as music festival and because that's all I cared about (sorry, but I really hate children) I had an amazing weekend - just the supporting bits, like child friendliness and toilets, got a bit left behind. I entirely missed the spoken word tent but that was supposedly a roaring success. On that alone I think it's going to be amazing next year cause I can see a whole pile of potential and (hand on heart) I have a lot of faith in the vision of the organisors.
So if the line up appeals to you in 2015 I reckon it'll be worth giving a second chance. My vibe talking to organisers in the aftermath was that a lot was learned so it wouldn't surprise me if it took huge strides next year. 2015 will be the teller - it'll be interesting to see how it goes.
I'd like to make a comment on this. Everything below is my opinion, some of it based on fact, some otherwise.
I've been fortunate enough to deal with Dan/Pip on more than one occasion before. To say that these guys are consummate professionals is an understatement. There are few artists in the business with as much genuine integrity as them. The fact that this is probably the 5th show they've pulled during their 10 year plus career says a lot more about the promoters than it does Dan v Pip. Dan v Pip offered it to them to clarify their "unforeseen circumstances" on Facebook and there was no response from LCS.
What you've heard has seemingly come straight from a promoter who I imagine is trying to save face. Here's my take on what may have happened. All alleged of course. DvP were their headline act. They sold tickets off the back of DvP's name and probably a month out when they saw tickets weren't selling as well as expected they decided to delay on the deposit to DvP. Then delay it again and again. It reads to me like they were hoping DvP would agree to being paid in full after the gig and I'm sure the band, having been down that road numerous times before, saw alarm bells ringing in their heads and said no.
I don't believe anyone who has dealt with DvP before could formulate the opinion you have on them. Would I be correct in saying that the promoter is your primary source for this information? As has been shown already their lines of communication and the message that they spread are a little blurry to say the least.0 -
Danger Fourpence wrote: »It reads to me like they were hoping DvP would agree to being paid in full after the gig
All due to be paid were paid in one batch, before the festival. That info is from knowing and talking to bands who got paid and not anyone directly involved. So could be wrong, but *I* doubt it, perhaps naive of me, granted.Danger Fourpence wrote: »Would I be correct in saying that the promoter is your primary source for this information?
My 'source of information' is actually seeing for myself the comments and carry on on facebook from DvP. Though maybe they don't manage their own facebook account, it appears they do.
As for my view on why they pulled out it came from my observation of people's emotions and actions on site rather than direct conversation to me. I would find an act to that extent a bit too elaborate to be put on, but to be fair, within the realm of possibility.
Disclaimer: That post is probably bi+chy, apologies (and not at all directed at you personally Danger Fourpence). Everyone else's past experience of DvP aside I reserve the right to continue to be annoyed at them based on my one - perhaps out of character/justified - experience of their carry on. They seem to have enough fans it won't really matter if one wee randomer on the internet bi+ched about them for a bit on a random forum thread, eh? 0 -
pervertedcoffee wrote: »All due to be paid were paid in one batch, before the festival. That info is from knowing and talking to bands who got paid and not anyone directly involved. So could be wrong, but *I* doubt it, perhaps naive of me, granted.
My 'source of information' is actually seeing for myself the comments and carry on on facebook from DvP. Though maybe they don't manage their own facebook account, it appears they do.
As for my view on why they pulled out it came from my observation of people's emotions and actions on site rather than direct conversation to me. I would find an act to that extent a bit too elaborate to be put on, but to be fair, within the realm of possibility.
Disclaimer: That post is probably bi+chy, apologies (and not at all directed at you personally Danger Fourpence). Everyone else's past experience of DvP aside I reserve the right to continue to be annoyed at them based on my one - perhaps out of character/justified - experience of their carry on. They seem to have enough fans it won't really matter if one wee randomer on the internet bi+ched about them for a bit on a random forum thread, eh?
Sorry, you said you knew for a fact that the promoters didn't get 2 weeks notice. I took it that a promoter told you this. You also couldn't know for a fact, unless involved in the process, that everyone who was due payment was paid in one batch before the festival. Why do you think they pulled out?
If the promoters have nothing to hide on the DvP side of things then they have social media and a website where they can make their position known. DvP have done and yeah they manage their own social media.
Is it true tickets were being sold for €25 at the gate? How would you feel if you'd paid €100 (plus whatever other silly fees) for a ticket only to see the same ticket go for €25 on the day?0 -
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I am sure the promoters know how social media goes and how important it is, you can even pre-schedule posts on pages to save time!
They were able to answer pricing info quickly enough but nothing much else, and it seems Dan & Pip were very hashed off in having to pull out.
You wouldn't be annoyed for no reason
Some one should post this thread on there page to show them what could be getting spread behind there backs about there image and names effectively slander really if its not true. As a fellow not so good artist Id be very peeved to be be called a Diva etc as it could effect future work.
Do I believe some one in business with a good rep for 10 + yrs or some one doing a 1st yr show.... hrrrm, they wont be seeing my money any way next year either.
In business image is everything and so is receiving proper payment on time its not fair for artists not to be paid for there work!
To many people think Artists are there to be used.0 -
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