Temporary Closure of Section of Lough Atalia Road from 23rd March to May, 2015

kippy

what_traffic wrote: »

Was a piece about this on the local radio this morning? Heard at work that it will revert back? Cllr announced it on the airwaves. Is this true?
Looks like the local residents protest at City Hall yesterday at City Hall had the required effect!

If you read a few pages back in this thread you'll see that the only reason for the three week "extension" was in case there were issues found with the new road. It would be much easier to fix them if the one ways systems were still in place.
I don't think there was ever a "trial" of this that would have led to something changing permanently.

Mrs OBumble

Nice piece of political maneuvering:

Council extends one-way period for snagging, residents complain, council removes the one-way system (as originally planned),

Councillors get to look like they got the council to respond.
Council gets to look responsive.
Residents get safer streets
BnB owners get their customers back
Traffic planners get three weeks data to research a permanent one-way system on
Road-workers / engineers get snagging time.
Motorists return to the pre-project traffic conditions for this time of year.

Win / win / win / win / win / win / neutral. Not bad going, really.

Zzippy

Good few "suits" in hi-viz there yesterday doing what looked like a snag list inspection, would say they'll revert soon enough if it was given the all clear.

snubbleste

snubbleste wrote: »

There was a traffic corps bike at LoughAtalia/Fairgreen junction at 1000 this morning.

A garda car with the hairdryer at 1530 today

kippy

snubbleste wrote: »

A garda car with the hairdryer at 1530 today

There was a motorbolike there round 9.00 this morning also.

snubbleste

Most of the removed traffic islands are being re-instated.
Meanwhile businesses call for one-way traffic system on Lough Atalia & College Road to be retained

Iwannahurl

Perhaps they were lobbying the Council in recent weeks, hence City Hall's declaration that the one-way system had "merit".

Delicia

snubbleste wrote: »

Most of the removed traffic islands are being re-instated.
Meanwhile businesses call for one-way traffic system on Lough Atalia & College Road to be retained

Won't this be interesting? Who'll win this one - people or business/votes or money?

Iwannahurl

Seeing as how it's WB's 150th anniversary:

What need you, being come to sense,
But fumble in a greasy till
And add the halfpence to the pence...

As long as the tills are ringing, some people don't care. There was a Galway City Business Association rep on GBFM this morning, pushing for the gyratory to be retained, to speed even more traffic into a city centre which they have already said is congested.

I'd say the LAR/College Road residents are well able for them. They'd make any Councillor think twice about supporting it, which is perhaps why the GCBA had one of their own reps do the talking, for a change.

what_traffic

Latest update
http://www.galwaycity.ie/news/227/59/Lough-Atalia-Road-Traffic-Management-Plan-Update---Retaining-Right-Turn-Ban-at-Moneenageisha-Junction/
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On Friday night 19th June, Galway City Council shall be reinstating the two-way system on Lough Atalia Road, Fairgreen Road and College Road. The two-way system will be fully operational by 7am on Saturday morning and further works on the junction traffic islands will be completed during the following week.
However, it is proposed by Galway City Council to keep in place the ban on the two right turns at the Moneenageisha Junction for a further trial period for the duration of the Summer Months.
The two right turns that are currently banned are the right turn from the Dublin Road onto the Wellpark Road and the right turn from Moneenageisha Road onto College Road. This shall allow Galway City Council to further assess the impact of the banning of these right turns while the two-way system is in operation.
Galway City Council would like to thank everybody for their support and apologise for any inconvenience caused.
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what_traffic

Also covered in todays Connacht Tribune
http://connachttribune.ie/right-turn-ban-at-busy-city-junction-to-be-retained/

Will this lead to Rat running via the Huntsman and Wellpark to make these right turns now?

snubbleste

They spray painted location names on road signs a few months back ie. LAR/College junction
Is that easy to remove?

It struck me at the time that it was a bit permanent rather than covering it with a sticker

snubbleste

what_traffic wrote: »

.. Will this lead to Rat running via the Huntsman and Wellpark to make these right turns now?

People are taking illegal right turns anyway

It pretty awkward banning the right turn at Moongeisha. It's a right turn I personally use quite regularly and severely limits options for people coming from the Headford road direction and wanting to head along LAR.

Stupid bans on turns like this is what causes rat running.

spurscormac

Lea Limited Schoolwork wrote: »

It pretty awkward banning the right turn at Moongeisha. It's a right turn I personally use quite regularly and severely limits options for people coming from the Headford road direction and wanting to head along LAR.

Stupid bans on turns like this is what causes rat running.

This ban on right turns is unhelpful.

As you said, coming from Headford road, or the Quincentennial for that matter, makes it difficult to get to the new bus station or Radisson Hotel.

Legally, you can head in bohermore or past Argos, then go down Forster St, all the way out College road and back in Lough Atalia.
Or you can head to cemetary cross, down the hill, straight through Moneenageisha junction and left through Wellpark as a rat run to come out across from the school and head straight to Lough Atalia.
Or any manner of u-turns to get back to the Moneenageisha lights in order to get on to Lough Atalia.
I'd be surprised if the Radisson hotel are one of the businesses keen on retaining the one-way system.

joeKel73

The ban on right turns greatly improves the traffic flow at that junction. There are less light sequences now so much less waiting and less back-up of traffic.

spurscormac wrote: »

This ban on right turns is unhelpful.

As you said, coming from Headford road, or the Quincentennial for that matter, makes it difficult to get to the new bus station or Radisson Hotel.

Legally, you can head in bohermore or past Argos, then go down Forster St, all the way out College road and back in Lough Atalia.

Why would you go out College Road and back in Lough Atalia? Simply come down Bohermore, down the hill by Forster Ct and straight across to either the bus station or the Radisson?

Or if going to Salthill go along Forster Street, around by Eyre Square and the docks.

kippy

J o e wrote: »

The ban on right turns greatly improves the traffic flow at that junction. There are less light sequences now so much less waiting and less back-up of traffic.



Why would you go out College Road and back in Lough Atalia? Simply come down Bohermore, down the hill by Forster Ct and straight across to either the bus station or the Radisson?

Or if going to Salthill go along Forster Street, around by Eyre Square and the docks.

You can't go straight across to the bus station or the Radisson as that junction is left turn only currently.

what_traffic

kippy wrote: »

You can't go straight across to the bus station or the Radisson as that junction is left turn only currently.

You will tomorrow though.

Mrs OBumble

kippy wrote: »

You can't go straight across to the bus station or the Radisson as that junction is left turn only currently.

You can again from 7am tomorrow morning.

kippy

Sorry lads,
Completely missed the timing/point of the post!

what_traffic

Mustafa Tight Traveller wrote: »

Stupid bans on turns like this is what causes rat running.

Must be a first. I agree with you Mustafa Tight Traveller.

Storm 10

Back to a car park again in Lough Atalia , bumper to bumper from the Radisson at 10am this morning :mad:

Diabhal Beag

The light sequences are taking the piss too. Turning from Lough Atalia towards the College road out to Dublin Road was a joke. No cars coming to or from College Road and was waiting a good 3 minutes for lights to change. Any more of that ****e and I'm getting involved in the dog-chasing-own-tail world of Galway politics.

Mrs OBumble

Storm 10 wrote: »

Back to a car park again in Lough Atalia , bumper to bumper from the Radisson at 10am this morning :mad:

From the Radisson to where?

snubbleste

I assume outbound to College Road.
Has anyone called the corpo and told them to fix the lights properly?

Storm 10

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

From the Radisson to where?

Outbound from the Radisson, the lights are a joke, I have been caught twice there today with delays, never had a delay with the one way system.

pmasterson95

Storm 10 wrote: »

Outbound from the Radisson, the lights are a joke, I have been caught twice there today with delays, never had a delay with the one way system.

So the one way worked better but because of moaning its gone to the inefficient way again? What a shame.

kippy

pmasterson95 wrote: »

So the one way worked better but because of moaning its gone to the inefficient way again? What a shame.

It wasn't just because of moaning in fairness. It was never meant to be a permanent feature and couldnt have been without further significant works.
If we are to believe what we are told the traffic studies over the past 3 week may help develop a proposal to do something different with those roads.

pmasterson95

kippy wrote: »

It wasn't just because of moaning in fairness. It was never meant to be a permanent feature and couldnt have been without further significant works.
If we are to believe what we are told the traffic studies over the past 3 week may help develop a proposal to do something different with those roads.

Ah I see. Cheers!

Mrs OBumble

pmasterson95 wrote: »

So the one way worked better but because of moaning its gone to the inefficient way again? What a shame.

It most certainly didn't work better if you were an old person living on College Rd who could no longer catch a bus into the city centre.

kippy

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

It most certainly didn't work better if you were an old person living on College Rd who could no longer catch a bus into the city centre.

Yeah, there were definitely those that it did not work "better" for. If this is to be somewhat of a permanent fixture plenty would need to change to allow it work for the residents of the area.

Storm 10

Storm 10 wrote: »

Outbound from the Radisson, the lights are a joke, I have been caught twice there today with delays, never had a delay with the one way system.

Can you not use college road its probably quieter than lough atalia?

Zzippy

3 minute green light for Fairgreen Road? That never happened before. Smells like the traffic control centre making things deliberately inconvenient cos they didn't get their wish to keep the one-way system... or maybe I'm being paranoid

Francis1995

Zzippy wrote: »

3 minute green light for Fairgreen Road? That never happened before. Smells like the traffic control centre making things deliberately inconvenient cos they didn't get their wish to keep the one-way system... or maybe I'm being paranoid

when traffic lights are taking longer than normal to change would someone make council aware of it.

Im glad one way trafic is gone as i was almost involved in a head on collision involving a tourist exiting a b&b the wrong way.

Its way safer for cyclists and pedestrians now that its back to two way.

The speeding was something unreal when it was one way.