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Temporary Closure of Section of Lough Atalia Road from 23rd March to May, 2015

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    #152
    Zzippy
    Registered Users Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    WallyGUFC wrote: »
    Was going out College Road tonight around 10.30 and saw someone drive past me towards Forster Street, going the wrong way. Was going to flash them but I had to make sure it wasn't me in the wrong first!

    Possibly someone coming from a B&B on College Road, wouldn't know the new layout and satnav wouldn't tell them either...


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    #153
    zarquon
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    Zzippy wrote: »
    Possibly someone coming from a B&B on College Road, wouldn't know the new layout and satnav wouldn't tell them either...

    You give far too much credit to Galway drivers. Some people are just morons behind a wheel and Galway has a much higher than normal concentration of such moronic driving.


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    #154
    boardzz
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    I notice lots of people don't see or else don't care about massive arrows painted on the ground in car parks in Galway so they will take no notice of the arrows put down for the one way system.


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    #155
    joeKel73
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    Over half an hour to get Lough Atalia to Spanish Arch this evening, clear after Eyre Square.

    Very messy outside new bus station with 5 cars trying to merge in after jumping the slow lane and some patient drivers having little of it. They need to fully separate those lanes .


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    #156
    Crumbs868
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    boardzz wrote: »
    I notice lots of people don't see or else don't care about massive arrows painted on the ground in car parks in Galway so they will take no notice of the arrows put down for the one way system.

    Hardly the same thing. One is illegal the other isn't


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    #157
    Diabhal Beag
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    I was heading to Salthill at lunchtime and the merging cars who take the right lane through Lough Atalia and try indicating into the left lane by the Radisson is absolute chaos. In fairness to the cars on the left I think every single driver let the at least one car merge in. The 30th of May can't come quick enough.


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    #158
    bobbyss
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    J o e wrote: »
    Over half an hour to get Lough Atalia to Spanish Arch this evening, clear after Eyre Square.

    Very messy outside new bus station with 5 cars trying to merge in after jumping the slow lane and some patient drivers having little of it. They need to fully separate those lanes .

    I walked up LAR on the first day the works began about 4 30. Cars were breezing by. No problem. But when I turned on towards fairgreen Road I noticed cars in the right lane trying to cut across to the left lane where there is a gap at the entrance to revenue (i think). Is that gap still there? There should be an unbreakable division along LAD right down to Forster street. Then no lane hopping.


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    #159
    joeKel73
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    Diabhal Beag wrote: »
    In fairness to the cars on the left I think every single driver let the at least one car merge in.

    I was not one of these drivers. :)

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    #160
    [Deleted User]
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    boardzz wrote: »
    I notice lots of people don't see or else don't care about massive arrows painted on the ground in car parks in Galway so they will take no notice of the arrows put down for the one way system.

    They have no legal standing and can be ignored if you wish, I certainly wouldnt miss a spot by driving all the way around if I spot one....


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    #161
    boardzz
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    Lea Limited Schoolwork wrote: »
    They have no legal standing and can be ignored if you wish, I certainly wouldnt miss a spot by driving all the way around if I spot one....

    You're an idiot


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    #162
    snubbleste
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    bobbyss wrote: »
    I walked up LAR on the first day the works began about 4 30. Cars were breezing by. No problem. But when I turned on towards fairgreen Road I noticed cars in the right lane trying to cut across to the left lane where there is a gap at the entrance to revenue (i think). Is that gap still there? There should be an unbreakable division along LAD right down to Forster street. Then no lane hopping.
    Whoy?
    Then cars would not be able to come out of Revenue to go to Eyre Square and neither would coaches from the coach station.


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    #163
    joeKel73
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    Lea Limited Schoolwork wrote: »
    They have no legal standing and can be ignored if you wish, I certainly wouldnt miss a spot by driving all the way around if I spot one....

    This is why aliens don't talk to us. :(


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    #164
    bobbyss
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    snubbleste wrote: »
    Whoy?
    Then cars would not be able to come out of Revenue to go to Eyre Square and neither would coaches from the coach station.

    I take your point re cars from revenue but coaches (for Dublin, Cork) coming out of station turn right towards the traffic lights and then up College Road. There is no reason for them to change into any left lane.


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    #165
    Mrs OBumble
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    bobbyss wrote: »
    I take your point re cars from revenue but coaches (for Dublin, Cork) coming out of station turn right towards the traffic lights and then up College Road. There is no reason for them to change into any left lane.

    The Citylink lads heading for Clifden might disagree with ya ...


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    #166
    thesandeman
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    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    The Citylink lads heading for Clifden might disagree with ya ...

    Just call it 'The Weird Atlantic Way'.


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    #167
    Goofy
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    bobbyss wrote: »
    I take your point re cars from revenue but coaches (for Dublin, Cork) coming out of station turn right towards the traffic lights and then up College Road. There is no reason for them to change into any left lane.

    All the busses leaving there have to cross to the left hand lane as their turning circle is too large to stay in the right lane


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    #168
    Iwannahurl
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    thesandeman wrote: »
    Just call it 'The Weird Atlantic Way'.

    Speaking of weird (though depressingly familiar) ways, I noticed today that the Lough Atalia roadworks require cyclists to take a massive diversion.

    If a cyclist is leaving, say, City Hall or Yeats College to go to Eyre Square, they have to cycle about four times further via Lough Atalia Road.

    Likewise, cyclists needing to access Lough Atalia Road have to divert via College Road. While travelling the 'right' way around the one-way system I saw cyclists trying to find a way through without taking the diversion.

    Meanwhile, both roads have been turned into two-lane one-way routes for motor traffic, which has made the traffic speed on these roads even crazier than usual.

    No attempt has been made to either control speed or accommodate cyclists.


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    #169
    Mrs OBumble
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    It's no worse for cyclists than for any other vehicles: all of them have to take this massive detour.

    At least cyclists have an option to get off and wheel their vehicle down the footpath to Forster St.


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    #170
    snubbleste
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    The speeding is pretty bad - people seem to think it's now a dual carriageway..


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    #171
    Iwannahurl
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    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    It's no worse for cyclists than for any other vehicles: all of them have to take this massive detour.

    At least cyclists have an option to get off and wheel their vehicle down the footpath to Forster St.


    A section of "footpath" on College Road. :)


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    #172
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    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    A section of "footpath" on College Road. :)

    What's wrong with the perfect section of footpath on the right hand side of that picture?


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    #173
    snubbleste
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    Lea Limited Schoolwork wrote: »
    What's wrong with the perfect section of footpath on the right hand side of that picture?
    :confused:


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    #174
    [Deleted User]
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    snubbleste wrote: »
    :confused:

    I assume the post was pointing out that the footpath is narrow on the left hand side for a short distance, what's wrong with using the footpath on the right hand side?


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    #175
    snubbleste
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    Lea Limited Schoolwork wrote: »
    I assume the post was pointing out that the footpath is narrow on the left hand side for a short distance, what's wrong with using the footpath on the right hand side?
    Nothing. But it is not for cyclists.


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    #176
    Galway K9
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    I am warming to this dual lane in and out of galway city approach. :)


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    #177
    Iwannahurl
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    Lea Limited Schoolwork wrote: »
    What's wrong with the perfect section of footpath on the right hand side of that picture?

    Here's a section of "footpath" on Lough Atalia Road.

    And another section.


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    #178
    Iwannahurl
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    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    It's no worse for cyclists than for any other vehicles: all of them have to take this massive detour.

    At least cyclists have an option to get off and wheel their vehicle down the footpath to Forster St.

    The diversion is to facilitate motorists during the roadworks, with cyclists having to make the greatest compromise as a result. Galway City Council suggested that people use bikes instead of driving while the works are underway, but have made no effort to facilitate that option.

    I also noticed that the Mainguard Street shared bike station was out of service, which, coupled with the effective closing off of bike routes through the city centre, meant that my journey was not at all conducive to cycling. I persisted because I was not stuck for time, and I wanted to check out what the route was like.

    Galway City Council really are clueless, careless or both about the facilitation of utility cycling. It's only when you commute regularly by bike that you fully appreciate this fact.


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    #179
    WallyGUFC
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    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    The diversion is to facilitate motorists during the roadworks, with cyclists having to make the greatest compromise as a result. Galway City Council suggested that people use bikes instead of driving while the works are underway, but have made no effort to facilitate that option.

    I also noticed that the Mainguard Street shared bike station was out of service, which, coupled with the effective closing off of bike routes through the city centre, meant that my journey was not at all conducive to cycling. I persisted because I was not stuck for time, and I wanted to check out what the route was like.

    Galway City Council really are clueless, careless or both about the facilitation of utility cycling. It's only when you commute regularly by bike that you fully appreciate this fact.
    Using your previous example, someone leaving Yeats wanting to go to the Square. Somebody in a car is going to have to travel the exact same distance as somebody on a bike, and cyclists can cycle on the path down College Road if they're that way inclined (which I would imagine plenty in Galway are.) So no, cyclists don't have to make the greatest compromise; it's the exact same compromise as motor vehicle users.


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    #180
    what_traffic
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    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    Galway City Council really are clueless, careless or both about the facilitation of utility cycling. It's only when you commute regularly by bike that you fully appreciate this fact.

    They do not give a damn. Car traffic flow is all they care about.


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    #181
    zarquon
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    WallyGUFC wrote: »
    Using your previous example, someone leaving Yeats wanting to go to the Square. Somebody in a car is going to have to travel the exact same distance as somebody on a bike, and cyclists can cycle on the path down College Road if they're that way inclined (which I would imagine plenty in Galway are.) So no, cyclists don't have to make the greatest compromise; it's the exact same compromise as motor vehicle users.

    Cyclists also have the option of cutting down into foster court to avoid the detour. I don't buy this hard done by cyclist nonsense. It was clear that there was going to be inconvenience to all road users including cyclists.


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