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The Centre RTE March 24th

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭evilivor


    sok2005 wrote: »
    That episode was an insult to the intelligence of Irish people, the days when you can get away with such bad humour and insulting minority groups for sh*ts and giggles are long gone. It's like something written decades ago, humour is a lot smarter now and people won't put up with such nonsense. An absolute shambles of a show I presume if that's what they give us as a pilot.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭golfball37


    The celebrity killer was a cracker. Is she the bird from Sherlock I wonder?


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭celtic tiger 2011


    sok2005 wrote: »
    That episode was an insult to the intelligence of Irish people, the days when you can get away with such bad humour and insulting minority groups for sh*ts and giggles are long gone. It's like something written decades ago, humour is a lot smarter now and people won't put up with such nonsense. An absolute shambles of a show I presume if that's what they give us as a pilot.

    If it was an insult to the intelligence of the Irish people, then how come a lot of the Irish people on twitter thought it was hilarious . To be honest I think you really overestimate the intelligence.and sophistication of the Irish people.

    If you think I am wrong about that, then please tell me why shows like Katherine Lynch, Damo and Ivor, The Republic of Telly, Podge & Rodge and Mrs Brown are so popular. We love our humour lewd and crude . We are just not a very sophisticated race of people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    We love our humour lewd and crude . We are just not a very sophisticated race of people.

    We are not a very sophisticated species. Lowbrow humour is popular the world over is it not?
    golfball37 wrote: »
    The celebrity killer was a cracker. Is she the bird from Sherlock I wonder?

    Mrs. Hudson is in it? Deadly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    If it was an insult to the intelligence of the Irish people, then how come a lot of the Irish people on twitter thought it was hilarious .

    I stopped reading at Twitter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭sok2005


    If it was an insult to the intelligence of the Irish people, then how come a lot of the Irish people on twitter thought it was hilarious . To be honest I think you really overestimate the intelligence.and sophistication of the Irish people.

    If you think I am wrong about that, then please tell me why shows like Katherine Lynch, Damo and Ivor, The Republic of Telly, Podge & Rodge and Mrs Brown are so popular. We love our humour lewd and crude . We are just not a very sophisticated race of people.

    It's not even that it's lewd or crude, it's just completely unfunny. But I suppose if Irish people on Twitter love it then that's me put back in my box :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭celtic tiger 2011


    Does anybody think that the Centre will be shown on the BBC like The Walshes was, or does anyone think it will even get another series?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Does anybody think that the Centre will be shown on the BBC like The Walshes was, or does anyone think it will even get another series?

    I don't think it'll get shown in Engerland (but you never know!). The Walshe's was developed by the BBC and part funded by RTE while The Centre was commissioned directly by RTE with funding from them and the BAI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,221 ✭✭✭RichyX


    It seems it was written by 2 guys , but its definitely written from a females view of the world , so I am guessing these guys must be gay.

    Jesus Christ, who let you near a computer.

    The show is absolutely woeful though. Thinly written, stock characters and lame, lame, lame jokes.
    I nearly stopped watching several times from cringing at the awfulness of it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭celtic tiger 2011


    The Centre does seem to have received a very negative and vitriolic response from here and the main stream media. Having said that, they are still a lot of people on twitter who loved it . The fact of the matter, regardless of any perceived lack of quality from certain viewers, if it generates sufficient revenue for RTE to keep on air , do those who think it's offensive and ridiculing of perceieved soft targets such as transexuals, have the right to demand it be taken of air . I for one don't think they do . As Paul Weller said " And the public gets what the public wants"


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭celtic tiger 2011


    RichyX wrote: »
    Jesus Christ, who let you near a computer.

    The show is absolutely woeful though. Thinly written, stock characters and lame, lame, lame jokes.
    I nearly stopped watching several times from cringing at the awfulness of it.

    Whats your problem with my post you inner city dublin skanger? :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    The Centre does seem to have received a very negative and vitriolic response from here and the main stream media. Having said that, they are still a lot of people on twitter who loved it . The fact of the matter, regardless of any perceived lack of quality from certain viewers, if it generates sufficient revenue for RTE to keep on air , do those who think it's offensive and ridiculing of perceieved soft targets such as transexuals, have the right to demand it be taken of air . I for one don't think they do . As Paul Weller said " And the public gets what the public wants"
    RTE keeps many shows that don't make a profit on air. That's the problem. They have no quality control or anyone doing cost–benefit analysis.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    humanji wrote: »
    RTE keeps many shows that don't make a profit on air. That's the problem. They have no quality control or anyone doing cost–benefit analysis.
    Did I hear yesterday that they actually had a small surplus last year? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭AlanG


    While I don’t think much of this show it’s worth remembering that the reason Mrs Browns Boys is such a big hit is because producers and online shouters were totally focused on high brow humor whereas many people watch TV for escapism and easy laughs. Perhaps "Boardies” are just not the target audience for this type of show.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,038 ✭✭✭Go Harvey Go


    If it was an insult to the intelligence of the Irish people, then how come a lot of the Irish people on twitter thought it was hilarious . To be honest I think you really overestimate the intelligence.and sophistication of the Irish people.
    The Centre does seem to have received a very negative and vitriolic response from here and the main stream media. Having said that, they are still a lot of people on twitter who loved it .

    Many Twitter users are not intelligent.

    Just so you know.

    :o:o:o:o:):););)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,038 ✭✭✭Go Harvey Go


    The fact of the matter, regardless of any perceived lack of quality from certain viewers, if it generates sufficient revenue for RTE to keep on air , do those who think it's offensive and ridiculing of perceieved soft targets such as transexuals, have the right to demand it be taken of air . I for one don't think they do .

    Hate to say this, but you might be in the minority there... :o:o:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭celtic tiger 2011


    Duggie2012 wrote: »
    the trailer looks awful, might give it a look but i wouldn't hold out any hopes for this one.
    Many Twitter users are not intelligent.

    Just so you know.

    :o:o:o:o:):););)

    Well that's about 90% of the Irish population then. I wonder if there is a strong correlation between people who find shows like The Centre funny and low IQ'S.
    Honestly, we have to one of the thickest nations on Earth, right up there with American and Britain . The Europeans, Russians and Asians are so much smarter . They can speak three or four languages fluently, can do Maths at a much higher level , are more worldly etc.

    I mean we can't even speak our native tongue despite the fact that we spend at at least fifteen least years of our life learning it . Something just isn't right with Paddy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭celtic tiger 2011


    humanji wrote: »
    RTE keeps many shows that don't make a profit on air. That's the problem. They have no quality control or anyone doing cost–benefit analysis.

    I disagree there. If a show isn't getting the ratings which means low advertising revenue, they will take it off air. Shows like Mrs Browns Boys, Wagons Den, Winning Streak get high audience figures regardless of their perceived lack quality among a certain demographic.

    Of course in loads of other areas i am sure they waste money , because they are't a private business, but they can afford to, as they are funded by the tax paper and advertising revenue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭celtic tiger 2011


    Hate to say this, but you might be in the minority there... :o:o:)

    You musn't believe in democracy then , because in a democracy the majority rule.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    I disagree there. If a show isn't getting the ratings which means low advertising revenue, they will take it off air. Shows like Mrs Browns Boys, Wagons Den, Winning Streak get high audience figures regardless of their perceived lack quality among a certain demographic.

    Of course in loads of other areas i am sure they waste money , because they are't a private business, but they can afford to, as they are funded by the tax paper and advertising revenue.
    Well they kept giving Craig Doyle a chat show over and over, despite abysmal ratings. Then there's the whole fiasco of throwing money at a select few presenters despite them running their shows into the ground. It's a company that refused to move with the times and turf out the old guard.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭celtic tiger 2011


    humanji wrote: »
    Well they kept giving Craig Doyle a chat show over and over, despite abysmal ratings. Then there's the whole fiasco of throwing money at a select few presenters despite them running their shows into the ground. It's a company that refused to move with the times and turf out the old guard.

    Yeah but they took Doyle off air, once they realised that his rating weren't going to improve. There might be some shows that are sacred and they won't axe, no matter how much money they are loosing , but they have to keep out of the red as they are a going concern, advertising revenue and the tv licence fee will only go so far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭celtic tiger 2011


    Many Twitter users are not intelligent.

    Just so you know.

    :o:o:o:o:):););)

    Here's an interesting question. Do you think Katherine Lynch is any more intelligent than her targeted audience?.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Yeah but they took Doyle off air, once they realised that his rating weren't going to improve. There might be some shows that are sacred and they won't axe, no matter how much money they are loosing , but they have to keep out of the red as they are a going concern, advertising revenue and the tv licence fee will only go so far.

    They tried desperately to give him a show, every week he had a new one.

    I haven't watched the show, it looks ****e. BTW largely a female case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Elmo wrote: »
    I haven't watched the show, it looks ****e. BTW largely a female case.

    The largely female cast isn't the reason it's sh*te. The writing is the reason it's sh*te.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    The largely female cast isn't the reason it's sh*te. The writing is the reason it's sh*te.

    No I wasn't suggesting that, but I have noticed how many female commentators are always disappoint by the lack of women on the TV, so The Centre must be a plus


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Elmo wrote: »
    No I wasn't suggesting that, but I have noticed how many female commentators are always disappoint by the lack of women on the TV, so The Centre must be a plus

    Ah right. I picked you up wrong.

    Large female cast = Good.
    however
    Large female cast in sh*te sitcom = Bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Ah right. I picked you up wrong.

    Large female cast = Good.
    however
    Large female cast in sh*te sitcom = Bad.

    So the whole women on air initiative fails because of The Centre or should they welcome a sit-com with a large female cast?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,038 ✭✭✭Go Harvey Go


    I mean we can't even speak our native tongue despite the fact that we spend at at least fifteen least years of our life learning it .

    Because a lot of people don't like learning it, or don't see why they need to learn it, or both. Ceart go leor?

    You musn't believe in democracy then , because in a democracy the majority rule.

    What I meant was that you might be in the minority in not thinking that people who find The Centre offensive have a right to demand its removal from the air.

    It may well be that the majority do think that such people have this right, or pay no attention as to whether or not they have it.

    But democracy hardly exists at Montrose. Why else is Ryan Tubridy's salary so big? :rolleyes: ;)

    Here's an interesting question. Do you think Katherine Lynch is any more intelligent than her targeted audience?.

    I really couldn't give you a direct answer to that question, unfortunately. :o

    What I will say is that I'm sure she's not an airhead like most of this country's so-called "models", but I'm also sure she's not the brightest spark.

    Her IQ is probably the same as that woman in nice knickers... ;);)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Elmo wrote: »
    So the whole women on air initiative fails because of The Centre or should they welcome a sit-com with a large female cast?

    Not al all.

    The fact that it's a large female cast is good, yes. But that doesn't make the sitcom good.

    It's the quality of the program that things should be judged on, not the gender of the majority of the cast.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭fiachr_a


    What is a centre anyway? Do these things exist in scummy estates? Is this some Government scheme? Are they only in Dublin?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    fiachr_a wrote: »
    What is a centre anyway? Do these things exist in scummy estates? Is this some Government scheme? Are they only in Dublin?

    Yes they do exist. I don't know which centre it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭sok2005


    fiachr_a wrote: »
    What is a centre anyway? Do these things exist in scummy estates? Is this some Government scheme? Are they only in Dublin?

    Seriously, you've never heard of a community centre?


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭celtic tiger 2011


    Is anybody here going to watch The Centre tonight?.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Is anybody here going to watch The Centre tonight?.

    I think heading down to an actual centre might be more enjoyable. But then there is the backlash on boards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭celtic tiger 2011


    Elmo wrote: »
    I think heading down to an actual centre might be more enjoyable. But then there is the backlash on boards.

    Does anybody know what sort of viewer figures it got?.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,038 ✭✭✭Go Harvey Go


    Is anybody here going to watch The Centre tonight?.

    No. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    There's a protest outside RTE at 7.30pm about the depiction of the pre-op transsexual character in this show apparently:

    http://eile.ie/2014/03/31/transgender-community-unhappy-with-rte-sitcom-character/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    There's a protest outside RTE at 7.30pm about the depiction of the pre-op transsexual character in this show apparently:

    http://eile.ie/2014/03/31/transgender-community-unhappy-with-rte-sitcom-character/

    Interesting to see how the BAI react after all they gave money towards the show.

    However it is nothing to protest about, other than it is a bad comedy. That I might agree with.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 133 ✭✭Sir Chops


    Is anybody here going to watch The Centre tonight?.

    I'd rather have all my skin peeled off and roll about in a pool of salt


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭jane82


    I cant flocking wait for it. Im so excited its a bit sad really. Feckin protesters.


  • Registered Users Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Joe prim


    Elmo wrote: »
    They tried desperately to give him a show, every week he had a new one.

    I haven't watched the show, it looks ****e. BTW largely a female case.

    I liked Craig Doyles Everest Windows show,where he showed how warm and cosy his house was with the windows, and told a joke involving windows and rain and that....I think he's very handsome and all...that's all.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,657 ✭✭✭CountyHurler


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    There's a protest outside RTE at 7.30pm about the depiction of the pre-op transsexual character in this show apparently:

    Yer wan Dil from Newstalk's Victim Village (on Saturday nights) was giving out yards about the portrayal of transexuals and the portrayal of the Traveller woman... No doubt she will be leading the martyrs..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    It was no better nor worse than Mrs Brown's Boys. Like that show, The Centre had its good and bad bits but it probably was not there at the right place or time.

    Katherine Lynch is from the same town/area that gave us Declan Nerney and Mick Flavin, but I don't think her wild and crude comedy would fit in in the Marquee in Drumlish anytime soon! Longford's answer to Mrs Brown she may well be but is Ireland hungry for this? Have we not have had enough of this type of thing on Wagons Den (also with KL) and other such shows?


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭celtic tiger 2011


    It was no better nor worse than Mrs Brown's Boys. Like that show, The Centre had its good and bad bits but it probably was not there at the right place or time.

    Katherine Lynch is from the same town/area that gave us Declan Nerney and Mick Flavin, but I don't think her wild and crude comedy would fit in in the Marquee in Drumlish anytime soon! Longford's answer to Mrs Brown she may well be but is Ireland hungry for this? Have we not have had enough of this type of thing on Wagons Den (also with KL) and other such shows?

    Don't you know the Irish people never get sick of mediocrity. They know no better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    jane82 wrote: »
    I cant flocking wait for it. Im so excited its a bit sad really. Feckin protesters.

    Are they stopping you from watching it? :confused:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭celtic tiger 2011


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    There's a protest outside RTE at 7.30pm about the depiction of the pre-op transsexual character in this show apparently:

    http://eile.ie/2014/03/31/transgender-community-unhappy-with-rte-sitcom-character/

    Those muppets should be protesting about more important issues like the IMF raping and pilaging the country . You know what the IMF stands for? . I'm ****ed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Those muppets should be protesting about more important issues like the IMF raping and pilaging the country. You know what the IMF stands for? . I'm ****ed.

    People are entitled to protest about anything they like.

    When people protested about Pantigate did you dismiss them because they weren't protesting about the IMF?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,452 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    First time viewer, the target was obviously to land somewhere between Shameless and Inbetweeners but the writing is a million miles off both. They shouldve got Yasmine Akram to consult on it as shes a good writer. Still, the same lady is the two ends of smokin' hot, so not an entirely wasted 30 mins!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    People are entitled to protest about anything they like.

    When people protested about Pantigate did you dismiss them because they weren't protesting about the IMF?

    All the protests will serve to make the show even more popular. Interest in it will increase and there is no such thing as bad publicity. Many people watch it for differing reasons: there's those who love it, there's those of the 'it's so bad it's good' mentality and there's those who are just curios.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,038 ✭✭✭Go Harvey Go


    The Centre had its good and bad bits but it probably was not there at the right place or time.

    Well, mostly bad bits. ;)

    And the place it's in is nowhere near the right one. Same can be said for the time. ;)

    Katherine Lynch ... Longford's answer to Mrs Brown she may well be but is Ireland hungry for this? Have we not have had enough of this type of thing on Wagons Den (also with KL) and other such shows?

    The folks at Montrose seem to think we are still hungry for this sort of comedy... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;)


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