Football ranking table

laoisman11

Was this a good or bad championship for your county?

One way to evaluate this is to look at the change in rating points over the 2014 SFC.

The big movers were:
* Armagh (+10.94) - had an excellent SFC reaching the quarter-finals. Their rating point gain was due in part to the low base with which they started, having being relegated from Div 2.
* Kerry (+8.72) - All-Ireland champions, what more could they ask for. Had a relatively poor NFL, losing 4 out of 7.
* Donegal (+8.00) - regained the Ulster SFC, demolished the Dubs but the final was a step too far after a big year.
* Tipperary (+4.98) - Ran Cork close, hammered Longford, beat Laois and lost out to Galway in what was a memorable championship run.

* Tyrone (-4.90) - An Ulster quarter-final loss to Monaghan was soon followed by a round 2 qualifier exit to Armagh.
* Cork (-5.49) - Scraped by Tipperary before being annihilated by Kerry. Put up a good show against Mayo, but it wasn't enough.
* Derry (-6.32) - After making their way to the League final, a lot was expected of the Oak Leaf men, but they failed to deliver. First round losses, to Donegal and Longford in the Ulster SFC and qualifiers, respectively, put a quick end to their year.
* Cavan (-6.35) - Cavan showed a lot of flair in the league and many expected them to build on 2013. However, they were well beaten by Armagh, snook by Westmeath before going down heavily to Roscommon.

#|Team|Δ Rating points
1|Armagh|10,94
2|Kerry|8,72
3|Donegal|8,00
4|Tipperary|4,98
5|Galway|2,95
6|Sligo|2,94
7|Longford|2,04
8|Antrim|1,90
9|Clare|1,78
10|Kildare|1,12
11|Roscommon|0,91
12|Louth|0,67
13|Meath|0,56
14|Wexford|0,52
15|Carlow|0,30
16|Mayo|0,30
17|New York|0,00
18|Leitrim|0,00
19|Laois|-0,03
20|Monaghan|-0,22
21|London|-0,54
22|Limerick|-2,52
23|Offaly|-2,58
24|Wicklow|-2,63
25|Waterford|-2,66
26|Westmeath|-2,96
27|Fermanagh|-3,42
28|Dublin|-3,96
29|Down|-4,05
30|Tyrone|-4,90
31|Cork|-5,49
32|Derry|-6,32
33|Cavan|-6,35|57,54

Manzoor14

Been following this for the last few months, incredibly accurate. Thanks for putting it together and updating laoisman11!

Boom__Boom

Surprised a bit Clare aren't on the big positive movers - would have thought that promotion from Division 4, losing to Kerry by 4 points and losing out to Kildare by 1 would have seen them gain more.

Great work laoisman has been very interesting to follow.

laoisman11

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Surprised a bit Clare aren't on the big positive movers - would have thought that promotion from Division 4, losing to Kerry by 4 points and losing out to Kildare by 1 would have seen them gain more.

Great work laoisman has been very interesting to follow.

The rating point changes above are from the first round of the championship to present, so the league results per se don't come into play, except as the base for calculating the difference. What I mean by that is, that if a team had an excellent league campaign, their rating points would over-estimate their worth and so they could lose a lot of rating points in the championship (Derry and Cavan could be good examples of this). Conversely, a poor league campaign followed by an excellent championship run could push the rating change in the other direction (e.g. Armagh).

Also, losing a game, even by a small margin to a much superior team, does not result in a gain in rating points under this IRB-derived system. I hope to have a bit more time to get into predictive modelling over the next few months, and I think that the loss of a game to a superior opponent by a tight margin should be taken into account in the rating changes.

You're right though, Clare had a good year. Up 4.77 rating points and 5 ranking places since the beginning of the year. Now that the dual-player issue has been sorted, they have no excuse!

laoisman11

In light of the NFL pools competition starting up, I thought it'd be interesting to have a look at how previous league campaigns were affected by a team's ranking.

The following tables are sorted by ranking position prior to start of the league, colour indicate top 2 finish (green) or bottom 2 finish (red).

2013 NFL
Div 1| Rank| Div 2| Rank| Div 3| Rank| Div 4| Rank
Donegal | 1 | Laois | 9 | Meath | 10 | Limerick | 17
Cork | 2 | Armagh | 11 | Sligo | 15 | Tipperary | 20
Mayo | 3 | Wexford | 12 | Monaghan | 19 | Clare | 25
Kerry | 4 | Derry | 13 | Roscommon | 21 | Offaly | 27
Dublin | 5 | Galway | 14 | Antrim | 22 | Leitrim | 28
Tyrone | 6 | Westmeath | 16 | Cavan | 24 | Carlow | 29
Kildare | 7 | Longford | 18 | Wicklow | 26 | Waterford | 31
Down | 8 | Louth | 23 | Fermanagh | 30 | London | 33


2014 NFL
Div 1| Rank| Div 2| Rank| Div 3| Rank| Div 4| Rank
Dublin | 1 | Donegal | 6 | Cavan | 12 | Tipperary | 20
Mayo | 2 | Monaghan | 7 | Wexford | 17 | Antrim | 26
Kerry | 3 | Down | 9 | Roscommon | 19 | Clare | 27
Tyrone | 4 | Laois | 10 | Limerick | 21 | Wicklow | 28
Cork | 5 | Meath | 11 | Fermanagh | 22 | London | 29
Kildare | 8 | Galway | 14 | Longford | 23 | Waterford | 30
Derry | 13 | Louth | 15 | Offaly | 24 | Leitrim | 31
Westmeath | 18 | Armagh | 16 | Sligo | 25 | Carlow | 32

It appears from a cursory analysis of the 2013 and 2014 leagues that a team's ranking will generally be reflected in league placement in divisions 2, 3 and 4. Division 1 shows a different trend, with the top 4 ranked teams failing to finish in the top 2 in the league. This could be indicative of a "rest" period after extended All-Ireland campaigns which would have inadvertently increased their initial placement in the rankings.

Will these trends be continued in 2015?

2015 NFL
Div 1| Rank| Div 2| Rank| Div 3| Rank| Div 4| Rank
Kerry | 1 | Kildare | 9 | Armagh | 7 | Longford | 22
Donegal | 2 | Meath | 10 | Tipperary | 15 | Antrim | 26
Dublin | 3 | Galway | 11 | Louth | 18 | Wicklow | 27
Mayo | 4 | Roscommon | 13 | Wexford | 19 | Leitrim | 28
Monaghan | 5 | Laois | 14 | Clare | 20 | Offaly | 29
Cork | 6 | Down | 16 | Fermanagh | 23 | London | 30
Tyrone | 8 | Cavan | 17 | Limerick | 24 | Carlow | 31
Derry | 12 | Westmeath | 21 | Sligo | 25 | Waterford | 32

Fireball07

Should be a bit of movement in Division 3 anyway where Clare & Fermanagh both had big wins over teams ranked ahead of them, Wexford & Louth.

laoisman11

Fireball07 wrote: »

Should be a bit of movement in Division 3 anyway where Clare & Fermanagh both had big wins over teams ranked ahead of them, Wexford & Louth.

There was some movement alright, although it should be kept in mind that both these teams were at home, and therefore 3 rating points is added to their ratings before calculating the rating points exchange. In Clare's case, this took them above Wexford and so they were favourites to win the game. The biggest mover was actually Mayo who won well in Kerry (Kerry had a rating approx 9 points greater than Mayo, taking home advantage into account).

Latest table:

Rank|Δ Rank|Team|Rating points|Δ Rating
1| steady | Kerry | 100.85 | -2.4
2| steady | Donegal | 100.13 | 0
3| increase| Mayo | 99.62 | 2.4
4| decrease| Dublin | 96.85 | -1.23
5| steady| Monaghan | 93.32 | 1.05
6| steady| Cork | 92.92 | 1.23
7| steady| Armagh | 90.79 | 0.25
8| steady| Tyrone | 88.93 | -1.05
9| steady| Kildare | 86.69 | -1.64
10| increase| Galway | 85.86 | 0.92
11| decrease| Meath | 85.86 | -0.92
12| steady| Derry | 84.92 | 0
13| increase| Down | 83.35 | 1.64
14| decrease| Roscommon | 83.09 | -0.51
15| steady| Tipperary | 82.1 | -0.25
16| decrease| Laois | 81.54 | -1.37
17| steady| Cavan | 79.41 | 0.51
18| steady| Louth | 76.85 | -1.82
19| increase| Clare | 76.05 | 1.33
20| increase| Westmeath | 75.67 | 1.37
21| decrease| Wexford | 74.72 | -1.33
22| increase| Fermanagh | 74.29 | 1.82
23| decrease| Longford | 73.52 | -0.13
24| steady| Limerick | 72.77 | 0.78
25| steady| Sligo | 70.93 | -0.78
26| increase| Offaly | 69.13 | 0.96
27| increase| Leitrim | 68.84 | 0.13
28| decrease| Antrim | 68.82 | -0.71
29| decrease| Wicklow | 67.92 | -1.34
30| steady| London | 63.54 | -0.96
31| steady| Carlow | 62.58 | 0.71
32| steady| Waterford | 62.54 | 1.34
33| steady| New York | 60.7 | 0

bren2001

laoisman11 wrote: »

There was some movement alright, although it should be kept in mind that both these teams were at home, and therefore 3 rating points is added to their ratings before calculating the rating points exchange. In Clare's case, this took them above Wexford and so they were favourites to win the game. The biggest mover was actually Mayo who won well in Kerry (Kerry had a rating approx 9 points greater than Mayo, taking home advantage into account).

Do league matches and championship matches carry equivalent ranking points? Seems a bit of a flaw in the system if it does. Both down to managers not playing full strength teams/experimenting and not having players available due to club commitments (e.g. Dublin). I think I raised the point with you last year.

It would be interesting to see a comparison table where only Championship games are counted towards the rankings to see how teams positions would vary.

As I did last year, will keep on eye and this. Thanks for the work.

laoisman11

bren2001 wrote: »

Do league matches and championship matches carry equivalent ranking points? Seems a bit of a flaw in the system if it does. Both down to managers not playing full strength teams/experimenting and not having players available due to club commitments (e.g. Dublin). I think I raised the point with you last year.

It would be interesting to see a comparison table where only Championship games are counted towards the rankings to see how teams positions would vary.

As I did last year, will keep on eye and this. Thanks for the work.

Championship is currently weighted double to league (i.e. Mayo would have gained 4.8 points for a >5 point win over Kerry in the SFC in Killarney, based on current rankings).

Think I will have to put in a link at the end of every update to the wikipedia page which gives a full description of how the rankings are compiled. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_football_rankings

laoisman11

Tyrone gained the most ranking points this week following their away win over a Mayo side ranked over 10 points ahead of them. In terms of ranking position, Fermanagh jump 3 places to 19th.

#|Δ Rank|Team|Rating points|Δ Rating
1| steady | Kerry | 101.06 | 0.21
2| steady | Donegal | 99.11 | -1.02
3| increase| Dublin | 97.87 | 1.02
4| decrease| Mayo | 97.71 | -1.91
5| increase| Cork | 94.15 | 1.23
6| decrease| Monaghan | 92.09 | -1.23
7| steady| Armagh | 90.98 | 0.19
8| steady| Tyrone | 90.84 | 1.91
9| increase| Meath | 86.72 | 0.86
10| steady| Galway | 86.38 | 0.52
11| decrease| Kildare | 85.83 | -0.86
12| steady| Derry | 84.71 | -0.21
13| increase| Roscommon | 84.31 | 1.22
14| increase| Tipperary | 82.37 | 0.27
15| decrease| Down | 82.13 | -1.22
16| increase| Cavan | 80.75 | 1.34
17| decrease| Laois | 80.2 | -1.34
18| steady| Louth | 77.97 | 1.12
19| increase| Fermanagh | 75.27 | 0.98
20| steady| Westmeath | 75.15 | -0.52
21| decrease| Clare | 74.93 | -1.12
22| decrease| Wexford | 74.53 | -0.19
23| steady| Longford | 74.01 | 0.49
24| steady| Limerick | 72.5 | -0.27
25| steady| Sligo | 69.95 | -0.98
26| steady| Offaly | 69.67 | 0.54
27| increase| Wicklow | 68.78 | 0.86
28| steady| Antrim | 68.33 | -0.49
29| decrease| Leitrim | 67.98 | -0.86
30| increase| Carlow | 63.44 | 0.86
31| decrease| London | 62.68 | -0.86
32| steady| Waterford | 62 | -0.54
33| steady| New York | 60.7 | 0
Full explanation of ranking system here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_football_rankings

laoisman11

• Westmeath's win over Kildare was the shock of the weekend in terms of change in rating points
• Kildare have now lost 4.41 rating points and 4 ranking places since the start of the league
• Offaly continue their winning ways and have now risen 4 places after the last 3 games
• Otherwise, only minor changes in rankings with most home teams in the top divisions winning and the favourites coming through in the vast majority of games

#|Δ Rank|Team|Rating points|Δ Rating
1| steady | Kerry | 101.65 | 0.59
2| steady | Donegal | 99.58 | 0.47
3| increase| Mayo | 98.35 | 0.64
4| decrease| Dublin | 97.28 | -0.59
5| steady| Cork | 93.68 | -0.47
6| steady| Monaghan | 91.45 | -0.64
7| steady| Armagh | 90.98 | 0
8| steady| Tyrone | 90.23 | -0.61
9| steady| Meath | 86.72 | 0
10| steady| Galway | 86.38 | 0
11| increase| Derry | 85.32 | 0.61
12| increase| Roscommon | 84.31 | 0
13| decrease| Kildare | 83.92 | -1.91
14| increase| Down | 83.24 | 1.11
15| decrease| Tipperary | 81.1 | -1.27
16| increase| Laois | 80.2 | 0
17| decrease| Cavan | 79.64 | -1.11
18| steady| Louth | 78.83 | 0.86
19| increase| Westmeath | 77.06 | 1.91
20| decrease| Fermanagh | 76.54 | 1.27
21| steady| Clare | 75.63 | 0.7
22| increase| Longford | 74.68 | 0.67
23| decrease| Wexford | 73.67 | -0.86
24| steady| Limerick | 72.5 | 0
25| increase| Offaly | 70.81 | 1.14
26| increase| Antrim | 69.51 | 1.18
27| decrease| Sligo | 69.25 | -0.7
28| decrease| Wicklow | 67.64 | -1.14
29| steady| Leitrim | 66.8 | -1.18
30| steady| Carlow | 64.54 | 1.1
31| steady| London | 62.01 | -0.67
32| steady| Waterford | 60.9 | -1.1
33| steady| New York | 60.7 | 0

Full explanation of ranking system here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_football_rankings

laoisman11

• Kerry's lead at number one is being threatened by Mayo following this weekend's games
• Sligo gained the most rating points this weekend (2.16) with their impressive victory over Louth
• Fermanagh have now risen 5 ranking places since the start of the league (+5.07 rating points)

#|Δ Rank|Team|Rating points|Δ Rating
1| steady | Kerry | 99.66 | -1.99
2| increase | Mayo | 98.69 | 0.33
3| decrease| Donegal | 97.87 | -1.71
4| steady| Dublin | 96.58 | -0.7
5| steady| Cork | 95.7 | 1.99
6| steady| Monaghan | 93.6 | 1.71
7| increase| Tyrone | 90.48 | 0.7
8| decrease| Armagh | 89.98 | -1
9| steady| Meath | 86.95 | 0.23
10| steady| Galway | 85.37 | -1.01
11| steady| Derry | 84.96 | -0.33
12| increase| Kildare | 84.83 | 0.91
13| increase| Down | 84.25 | 1.01
14| decrease| Roscommon | 82.7 | -1.61
15| increase| Laois | 81.81 | 1.61
16| decrease| Tipperary | 81.75 | 0.65
17| steady| Cavan | 78.73 | -0.91
18| increase| Fermanagh | 77.54 | 1
19| steady| Westmeath | 76.83 | -0.23
20| decrease| Louth | 76.67 | -2.16
21| steady| Clare | 74.98 | -0.65
22| steady| Longford | 74.68 | 0
23| steady| Wexford | 74.39 | 0.72
24| steady| Limerick | 71.78 | -0.72
25| increase| Sligo | 71.41 | 2.16
26| decrease| Offaly | 70.34 | -0.47
27| decrease| Antrim | 69.81 | 0.3
28| steady| Wicklow | 67.63 | -0.01
29| steady| Leitrim | 67.27 | 0.47
30| steady| Carlow | 64.55 | 0.01
31| steady| London | 61.71 | -0.3
32| steady| Waterford | 60.9 | 0
33| steady| New York | 60.7 | 0
Full explanation of ranking system here.

laoisman11

• Dublin's bonus point win (> 5 points margin) in Castlebar rewards them with 2.01 rating points and moves Dublin back up to 2nd position in the rankings while Mayo drop to 4th
• Roscommon also earned 2.01 rating points in their superb away win against Kildare and advance 2 places to 12th
• Kildare have now lost 6 ranking places since the start of the league and will need better performances in their remaining matches if they wish to stop the slide into Division 3
• A six point win for Longford away to Wicklow (combined with losses suffered by Westmeath, Louth and Clare) sees Longford jump 3 places
• While the ranking system may be used to estimate future results, this may go out the window in the final rounds of the league as teams' motivation to avoid relegation can overcome their place in the rankings, especially against opposition who have little to play for

#|Δ Rank|Team|Rating points|Δ Rating
1| steady| Kerry | 100.34 | 0.68
2| increase| Dublin | 98.59 | 2.01
3| steady| Donegal | 97.19 | -0.68
4| decrease| Mayo | 96.68 | -2.01
5| steady| Cork | 96.55 | 0.85
6| steady| Monaghan | 93.82 | 0.22
7| increase| Armagh | 90.28 | 0.30
8| decrease| Tyrone | 89.63 | -0.85
9| steady| Meath | 86.41 | -0.54
10| increase| Down | 85.31 | 1.06
11| steady| Derry | 84.74 | -0.22
12| increase| Roscommon | 84.71 | 2.01
13| decrease| Galway | 83.73 | -1.64
14| increase| Tipperary | 83.04 | 1.29
15| decrease| Kildare | 82.82 | -2.01
16| decrease| Laois | 82.35 | 0.54
17| steady| Cavan | 80.37 | 1.64
18| steady| Fermanagh | 78.16 | 0.62
19| increase| Longford | 75.77 | 1.09
20| decrease| Westmeath | 75.77 | -1.06
21| decrease| Louth | 75.38 | -1.29
22| decrease| Clare | 74.68 | -0.30
23| steady| Wexford | 73.39 | -1.00
24| increase| Sligo | 72.41 | 1.00
25| decrease| Limerick | 71.16 | -0.62
26| steady| Offaly | 70.75 | 0.41
27| steady| Antrim | 70.42 | 0.61
28| increase| Leitrim | 67.27 | 0.00
29| decrease| Wicklow | 66.54 | -1.09
30| steady| Carlow | 64.14 | -0.41
31| steady| London | 61.71 | 0.00
32| increase| New York | 60.70 | 0.00
33| decrease| Waterford | 60.29 | -0.61

Full explanation of ranking system here.

zombieHanalei

I thought I'd add the hurling ratings to the football ratings just to see what it would look like. Cavan don't have a hurling team and Kilkenny don't have a football team so I just used the last known ranking points of both counties.

Weak hurling counties suffer most as the gap between the best and the worst in hurling is larger than the gulf in football, I don't think the top two will come as a surprise to anyone.

Position|County|Points
1st |Dublin|18187
2nd |Cork|18159
3rd |Tipperary|17199
4th |Galway|17029
5th |Kerry|16590
6th |Clare|15922
7th |Limerick|15575
8th |Wexford|15513
9th |Laois|15343
10th |Mayo|15197
11th |Kildare|15071
12th |Kilkenny|15041
13th |Derry|14679
14th |Donegal|14639
15th |Offaly|14515
16th |Waterford|14468
17th |Down|14318
18th |Meath|14230
19th |Westmeath|14151
20th |Armagh|14097
21st |Antrim|13874
22nd |Tyrone|13636
23rd |Monaghan|13476
24th |Roscommon|12866
25th |Carlow|12826
26th |Wicklow|12335
27th |London|12185
28th |Louth|11586
29th |Longford|11176
30th |Fermanagh|11141
31st |Cavan|10641
32nd |Sligo|10040
33rd |Leitrim|9804

laoisman11

• Only 3 games this weekend, refixtures from the wintry weather in Rd 3 and a delayed game from last week involving Leitrim and London
• Roscommon jump from 12th to 9th, their highest ranking since July 2004, following their win over Meath
• The highest rating points exchange was in the Galway-Laois game (1.94) with Laois and Galway effectively switching ranking places as a result

#|Δ Rank|Team|Rating points|Δ Rating
1| steady| Kerry | 100.34 | 0.00
2| steady| Dublin | 98.59 | 0.00
3| steady| Donegal | 97.19 | 0.00
4| steady| Mayo | 96.68 | 0.00
5| steady| Cork | 96.55 | 0.00
6| steady| Monaghan | 93.82 | 0.00
7| steady| Armagh | 90.28 | 0.00
8| steady| Tyrone | 89.63 | 0.00
9| increase| Roscommon | 85.62 | 0.91
10| decrease| Meath | 85.50 | -0.91
11| decrease| Down | 85.31 | 0.00
12| decrease| Derry | 84.74 | 0.00
13| increase| Laois | 84.29 | 1.94
14| steady| Tipperary | 83.04 | 0.00
15| steady| Kildare | 82.82 | 0.00
16| decrease| Galway | 81.79 | -1.94
17| steady| Cavan | 80.37 | 0.00
18| steady| Fermanagh | 78.16 | 0.00
19| steady| Longford | 75.77 | 0.00
20| steady| Westmeath | 75.77 | 0.00
21| steady| Louth | 75.38 | 0.00
22| steady| Clare | 74.68 | 0.00
23| steady| Wexford | 73.39 | 0.00
24| steady| Sligo | 72.41 | 0.00
25| steady| Limerick | 71.16 | 0.00
26| steady| Offaly | 70.75 | 0.00
27| steady| Antrim | 70.42 | 0.00
28| steady| Leitrim | 67.91 | 0.64
29| steady| Wicklow | 66.54 | 0.00
30| steady| Carlow | 64.14 | 0.00
31| steady| London | 61.07 | -0.64
32| steady| New York | 60.70 | 0.00
33| steady| Waterford | 60.29 | 0.00

Full explanation of ranking system here.

laoisman11

• Cork switch places with Mayo and in doing so, push Mayo out of the top 4 for the first time since August 2013
• Meath's bonus point win in Newry gives them the highest rating points exchange of the weekend (1.78 points)
• In terms of rankings change, Laois were the big losers, dropping 3 places, due to their loss against Kildare and Galway's excellent win against Roscommon
• Wexford have now dropped 6 ranking places since the start of the league and are at their worst ranking (25th) since February 2004

#|Δ Rank|Team|Rating points|Δ Rating
1| steady| Kerry | 98.71 | -1.63
2| steady| Dublin | 98.59 | 0.00
3| steady| Donegal | 97.63 | 0.44
4| increase| Cork | 97.36 | 0.81
5| decrease| Mayo | 95.87 | -0.81
6| steady| Monaghan | 95.45 | 1.63
7| steady| Armagh | 90.28 | 0.00
8| steady| Tyrone | 89.19 | -0.44
9| increase| Meath | 87.28 | 1.78
10| increase| Derry | 84.74 | 0.00
11| decrease| Roscommon | 84.16 | -1.46
12| increase| Kildare | 84.12 | 1.30
13| decrease| Down | 83.53 | -1.78
14| increase| Galway | 83.25 | 1.46
15| decrease| Tipperary | 83.13 | 0.09
16| decrease| Laois | 82.99 | -1.30
17| steady| Cavan | 80.86 | 0.49
18| steady| Fermanagh | 79.48 | 1.32
19| steady| Longford | 76.24 | 0.47
20| increase| Louth | 75.38 | 0.00
21| decrease| Westmeath | 75.28 | -0.49
22| steady| Clare | 73.13 | -1.55
23| increase| Limerick | 72.71 | 1.55
24| steady| Sligo | 72.32 | -0.09
25| decrease| Wexford | 72.07 | -1.32
26| increase| Antrim | 70.96 | 0.54
27| decrease| Offaly | 70.28 | -0.47
28| steady| Leitrim | 69.33 | 1.42
29| steady| Wicklow | 66.00 | -0.54
30| steady| Carlow | 62.72 | -1.42
31| steady| London | 60.82 | -0.25
32| steady| New York | 60.70 | 0.00
33| steady| Waterford | 60.54 | 0.25
Full explanation of ranking system here.

laoisman11

Final round of games in the NFL resulted in some major outliers due to teams who had little to gain/lose.

• Dublin recapture number 1 position, previously held in August 2014
• In terms of rating points exchange, Sligo's win over Armagh (3.00 rating points) and Derry's win over Cork (2.46 rating points) rank the highest, but it must be kept in mind that these games were effectively dead-rubbers (apart from Sligo, who were relegation-threatened)
• Louth's loss results in them dropping 5 ranking places (albeit a minor drop in rating points) due to wins for many of the teams slightly below them in the rankings; they now lie at their lowest position since July 2010

Overall, since the start of this year's league:

• Fermanagh have gained 5.79 rating points and 5 ranking places
• Kildare have dropped 5.5 rating points and 5 ranking places
• Louth have given up 4.67 rating points and 7 ranking places

#|Δ Rank|Team|Rating points|Δ Rating
1| increase| Dublin | 100.08 | 1.49
2| decrease| Kerry | 98.28 | -0.43
3| steady| Donegal | 97.71 | 0.08
4| increase| Mayo | 95.79 | -0.08
5| decrease| Cork | 94.90 | -2.46
6| steady| Monaghan | 93.96 | -1.49
7| increase| Tyrone | 89.62 | 0.43
8| increase| Meath | 87.65 | 0.37
9| decrease| Armagh | 87.28 | -3.00
10| steady| Derry | 87.20 | 2.46
11| steady| Roscommon | 85.07 | 0.91
12| increase| Galway | 84.54 | 1.29
13| steady| Down | 84.29 | 0.76
14| decrease| Kildare | 82.83 | -1.29
15| increase| Laois | 82.23 | -0.76
16| decrease| Tipperary | 81.19 | -1.94
17| steady| Cavan | 80.49 | -0.37
18| steady| Fermanagh | 78.26 | -1.22
19| steady| Longford | 76.69 | 0.45
20| increase| Sligo | 75.32 | 3.00
21| steady| Westmeath | 74.37 | -0.91
22| steady| Clare | 74.35 | 1.22
23| steady| Limerick | 74.09 | 1.38
24| increase| Wexford | 74.01 | 1.94
25| decrease| Louth | 74.00 | -1.38
26| increase| Offaly | 71.13 | 0.85
27| decrease| Antrim | 70.11 | -0.85
28| steady| Leitrim | 69.54 | 0.21
29| steady| Wicklow | 64.45 | -1.55
30| increase| London | 62.37 | 1.55
31| decrease| Carlow | 62.27 | -0.45
32| steady| New York | 60.70 | 0.00
33| steady| Waterford | 60.33 | -0.21

Full explanation of ranking system here.

laoisman11

League placings having now been determined, it's interesting to look back at the ranking of teams before the league and whether they managed a top 2 or bottom 2 finish in their respective division.

The following tables are sorted by ranking position prior to start of the league, colour indicate top 2 finish (green) or bottom 2 finish (red)


2015 NFL
Div 1| Rank| Div 2| Rank| Div 3| Rank| Div 4| Rank
Kerry | 1 | Kildare | 9 | Armagh | 7 | Longford | 22
Donegal | 2 | Meath | 10 | Tipperary | 15 | Antrim | 26
Dublin | 3 | Galway | 11 | Louth | 18 | Wicklow | 27
Mayo | 4 | Roscommon | 13 | Wexford | 19 | Leitrim | 28
Monaghan | 5 | Laois | 14 | Clare | 20 | Offaly | 29
Cork | 6 | Down | 16 | Fermanagh | 23 | London | 30
Tyrone | 8 | Cavan | 17 | Limerick | 24 | Carlow | 31
Derry | 12 | Westmeath | 21 | Sligo | 25 | Waterford | 32

Previous year's finishes:

2014 NFL
Div 1| Rank| Div 2| Rank| Div 3| Rank| Div 4| Rank
Dublin | 1 | Donegal | 6 | Cavan | 12 | Tipperary | 20
Mayo | 2 | Monaghan | 7 | Wexford | 17 | Antrim | 26
Kerry | 3 | Meath | 11 | Roscommon | 19 | Clare | 27
Tyrone | 4 | Down | 9 | Limerick | 21 | Wicklow | 28
Cork | 5 | Laois | 10 | Fermanagh | 22 | London | 29
Kildare | 8 | Galway | 14 | Longford | 23 | Waterford | 30
Derry | 13 | Louth | 15 | Offaly | 24 | Leitrim | 31
Westmeath | 18 | Armagh | 16 | Sligo | 25 | Carlow | 32

2013 NFL
Div 1| Rank| Div 2| Rank| Div 3| Rank| Div 4| Rank
Donegal | 1 | Laois | 9 | Meath | 10 | Limerick | 17
Cork | 2 | Armagh | 11 | Sligo | 15 | Tipperary | 20
Mayo | 3 | Wexford | 12 | Monaghan | 19 | Clare | 25
Kerry | 4 | Derry | 13 | Roscommon | 21 | Offaly | 27
Dublin | 5 | Galway | 14 | Antrim | 22 | Leitrim | 28
Tyrone | 6 | Westmeath | 16 | Cavan | 24 | Carlow | 29
Kildare | 7 | Longford | 18 | Wicklow | 26 | Waterford | 31
Down | 8 | Louth | 23 | Fermanagh | 30 | London | 33

What is also remarkable is the number of Leinster teams in the red compared to other provinces:

Finishes per province (2013-2015 combined)

Province| Top 2 | Bottom 2
Leinster | 7 | 15
Ulster | 10 | 7
Connacht | 1 | 3*
Munster | 5 | 0
*Connacht's 3 bottom 2 finishes are London finishing last in Div 4.

laoisman11

Just 2 games the weekend gone by:

• Dublin beat Monaghan as expected (although not as convincingly as many had expected) and 0.39 rating points were exchanged, not affecting the ranking of either team
• Cork's win over Donegal gained them 1.19 rating points and they leap-frog Mayo to go into 4th place in the rankings

#|Δ Rank|Team|Rating points|Δ Rating
1| steady| Dublin | 100.47 | 0.39
2| steady| Kerry | 98.28 | 0.00
3| steady| Donegal | 96.52 | -1.19
4| increase| Cork | 96.09 | 1.19
5| decrease| Mayo | 95.79 | 0.00
6| steady| Monaghan | 93.57 | -0.39
7| steady| Tyrone | 89.62 | 0.00
8| steady| Meath | 87.65 | 0.00
9| steady| Armagh | 87.28 | 0.00
10| steady| Derry | 87.20 | 0.00
11| steady| Roscommon | 85.07 | 0.00
12| steady| Galway | 84.54 | 0.00
13| steady| Down | 84.29 | 0.00
14| steady| Kildare | 82.83 | 0.00
15| steady| Laois | 82.23 | 0.00
16| steady| Tipperary | 81.19 | 0.00
17| steady| Cavan | 80.49 | 0.00
18| steady| Fermanagh | 78.26 | 0.00
19| steady| Longford | 76.69 | 0.00
20| steady| Sligo | 75.32 | 0.00
21| steady| Westmeath | 74.37 | 0.00
22| steady| Clare | 74.35 | 0.00
23| steady| Limerick | 74.09 | 0.00
24| steady| Wexford | 74.01 | 0.00
25| steady| Louth | 74.00 | 0.00
26| steady| Offaly | 71.13 | 0.00
27| steady| Antrim | 70.11 | 0.00
28| steady| Leitrim | 69.54 | 0.00
29| steady| Wicklow | 64.45 | 0.00
30| steady| London | 62.37 | 0.00
31| steady| Carlow | 62.27 | 0.00
32| steady| New York | 60.70 | 0.00
33| steady| Waterford | 60.33 | 0.00

Full explanation of ranking system here.

laoisman11

• Offaly gained the most rating points of the weekend (2.06) following their big win over favourites Longford
• Longford's loss saw them drop one place, and inadvertently bumped Sligo into 19th position, the highest they've been since March 2013 (although little separates 19th from 25th position)
• Dublin extend their lead at the top of the rankings and it is unlikely that they will vacate no.1 spot unless they are beaten by a top 5 team during the SFC
• Cork and Mayo swap places again
• Roscommon continue to amass rating points and solidify their position in the top 12

#|ΔRank|Team|Rating points|Δ Rating
1| steady| Dublin | 101.23 | 0.76
2| steady| Kerry | 98.28 | 0.00
3| steady| Donegal | 96.52 | 0.00
4| increase| Mayo | 95.79 | 0.00
5| decrease| Cork | 95.33 | -0.76
6| steady| Monaghan | 93.57 | 0.00
7| steady| Tyrone | 89.62 | 0.00
8| increase| Armagh | 87.68 | 0.40
9| decrease| Meath | 87.65 | 0.00
10| steady| Derry | 87.20 | 0.00
11| steady| Roscommon | 86.02 | 0.95
12| steady| Galway | 84.54 | 0.00
13| steady| Down | 83.34 | -0.95
14| steady| Kildare | 82.83 | 0.00
15| steady| Laois | 82.23 | 0.00
16| steady| Tipperary | 81.19 | 0.00
17| steady| Cavan | 80.49 | 0.00
18| steady| Fermanagh | 77.86 | -0.40
19| increase| Sligo | 75.32 | 0.00
20| decrease| Longford | 74.63 | -2.06
21| steady| Westmeath | 74.37 | 0.00
22| steady| Clare | 74.35 | 0.00
23| steady| Limerick | 74.09 | 0.00
24| steady| Wexford | 74.01 | 0.00
25| steady| Louth | 74.00 | 0.00
26| steady| Offaly | 73.19 | 2.06
27| steady| Antrim | 70.11 | 0.00
28| steady| Leitrim | 69.54 | 0.00
29| steady| Wicklow | 64.45 | 0.00
30| steady| London | 62.37 | 0.00
31| steady| Carlow | 62.27 | 0.00
32| steady| New York | 60.70 | 0.00
33| steady| Waterford | 60.33 | 0.00

Full explanation of ranking system here.

laoisman11

I have finally got around to updating the wikipedia page to incorporate the rankings and ratings stretching back to 1930 (thanks to Al Monds for the data).

The wiki now gives a more comprehensive outline of the Gaelic football rankings (both in terms of how they are calculated and the stats achieved).

I'd be very grateful if people would take a quick look over it; I'm interested to hear of other ways to present the data.

Also, if ye see any errors.....I still have to update the current ranking table (it is identical to the one in the post above this at the moment; I'll do another post tomorrow describing the differences).

Thanks in advance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_football_rankings

kupus

Makes a good read. Nice work is all I can say.

Meath Centre Forward

Just had a read over this ... it's as comprehensive a method of ranking Gaelic Football teams as I've seen. Definitely deserves more exposure.

The proof for me is in the current rankings. Looking at it now, the gap from Dublin to second conforms to public opinion as does the relatively large gap between fifth and seventh with Monaghan somewhere in between.

I will keep an eye on this over the summer. Just wondering is Croke Park considered a home venue for Dublin?

Tom Joad

Wow. Phenomenal amount of work and really interesting to read.

ProudDUB

Jesus. Fair play !

overshoot

interesting reading, hard to believe Donegal had their lowest ever ranking the same year we won our first ulster title! and we thought jim worked wonders!

altho still on us, didnt think you had us as no1 in 2015, should be 2014?

Fantastic work though!

GBXI

Superb work, the GAA could do worse than pay you to keep that ranking table updated on their website.

laoisman11

Thanks for the feedback.

I'll just stick this in first before replying to the comments above:

In writing up the wiki, I realized that I should have treated the weighting system slightly differently to allow for the increase competitiveness of the league in recent years. Initially, I had decreased the weighting for the SFC from 3 to 2, in effect to increase the relative importance of league games from 0.33 to 0.5 times that of a championship game. In retrospect, this was not the correct way to approach it, I should have just increased the weighting of league games from 1 to 1.5, thereby maintaining the championship weighting of 3 and having league games with a relative importance of 0.5 to that of championship games.

The upshot of this is that more recent success in the NFL is more highly rewarded than expressed in the rankings which I posted during the league.

In summary:

• Dublin extend their lead at the top of the table
• Mayo and Cork switch positions again, but there is relatively little between them in terms of rating points
• Laois and Kildare swap positions, but again, there is little between them
• There are 6 teams sitting between 73 and 75 points, so it was inevitable that there would be some changes. Westmeath were the most affected, dropping 4 places, Longford also dropped 3 places.
• Waterford and New York switch position at the bottom
• Now that the championship weighting is back to 3, expect significant movement of teams during the SFC!

#|Δ Rank|Team|Rating points|Δ Rating due to new calculations
1| steady| Dublin | 104.31 | 3.08
2| steady| Kerry | 99.47 | 1.19
3| steady| Donegal | 97.71 | 1.19
4| increase| Cork | 96.91 | 1.58
5| decrease| Mayo | 96.64 | 0.85
6| steady| Monaghan | 95.60 | 2.03
7| steady| Tyrone | 89.95 | 0.33
8| steady| Armagh | 89.28 | 1.60
9| steady| Meath | 89.27 | 1.62
10| steady| Derry | 88.95 | 1.75
11| steady| Roscommon | 87.34 | 1.32
12| steady| Galway | 85.46 | 0.92
13| steady| Down | 82.98 | -0.36
14| increase| Laois | 81.92 | -0.31
15| decrease| Kildare | 81.32 | -1.51
16| steady| Tipperary | 81.21 | 0.02
17| steady| Cavan | 80.25 | -0.24
18| steady| Fermanagh | 78.39 | 0.53
19| steady| Sligo | 77.02 | 1.70
20| increase| Limerick | 74.75 | 0.66
21| increase| Clare | 74.50 | 0.15
22| increase| Offaly | 73.97 | 0.78
23| decrease| Longford | 73.83 | -0.80
24| steady| Wexford | 73.42 | -0.59
25| decrease| Westmeath | 73.41 | -0.96
26| decrease| Louth | 71.67 | -2.33
27| increase| Leitrim | 69.31 | -0.23
28| decrease| Antrim | 69.03 | -1.08
29| steady| Wicklow | 61.29 | -3.16
30| steady| London | 61.07 | -1.30
31| steady| Carlow | 60.92 | -1.35
32| increase| Waterford | 58.02 | -2.31
33| decrease| New York | 57.17 | -3.53

Full explanation of ranking system here.

laoisman11

Meath Centre Forward wrote: »

Just had a read over this ... it's as comprehensive a method of ranking Gaelic Football teams as I've seen. Definitely deserves more exposure.

The proof for me is in the current rankings. Looking at it now, the gap from Dublin to second conforms to public opinion as does the relatively large gap between fifth and seventh with Monaghan somewhere in between.

I will keep an eye on this over the summer. Just wondering is Croke Park considered a home venue for Dublin?

Yep, well spotted. Croke Park is considered a home venue for Dublin and I've added that info to the wiki. I took a quick look at Dublin's games over the years: 88 % of all home games played by Dublin between 1925 and 2014 have been played at CP (99% of championship fixtures and 81% of league fixtures).

Godge

laoisman11 wrote: »

Yep, well spotted. Croke Park is considered a home venue for Dublin and I've added that info to the wiki. I took a quick look at Dublin's games over the years: 88 % of all home games played by Dublin between 1925 and 2014 have been played at CP (99% of championship fixtures and 81% of league fixtures).

Should Croke Park be treated as a home venue for Dublin in the All-Ireland semi-finals and finals when it is a neutral venue for everyone else?

No problem with Croke Park being treated as a home venue for Dublin in matches up until then but it seems that there is an in-built penalty for Dublin all the time.