Chelsea vs Arsenal, 12:45, BT Sport

Grayditch

Classy stuff, Jose.

Kerrigooney

Mourinho showing his complete lack of class again. Horrible man.

Crann na Beatha

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monkey9

I don't think it matters that the ball was going wide. The player wasn't to know that which is why he handled it. He's trying to prevent a goal. Red card without doubt.

kevohmsford

Huge win for Chelsea.6-0. What happened Arsenal today ?

pistolpetes11

Well that was Fun , must dash to the pub to celebrate , laters folks

Quazzie

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

If you say anything remotely negative about Arsenal, even if it's completely justified, you can expect Quazzie to be staunchly defending them.

We've been absolutely shít today. Terribly poor right from the start, and Chelsea tactically beat us fair and square. It was a definite peno, but I don't agree that it should've been a red.

Turtyturd

Enjoyed that as much as you can enjoy a Mourinho win.

Arsenal let down again by having a forward of Giroud's.....eh 'quality'. Would have been different if he had taken his chance.

Deeper Blue

Classless from Mourinho, I'm sure he'll get slated by the media...oh wait:rolleyes:

Kerrigooney

kevohmsford wrote: »

Huge win for Chelsea.6-0. What happened Arsenal today ?

Just your run of the mill hammering they seem to take from all the big boys these days.

Quazzie

monkey9 wrote: »

I don't think it matters that the ball was going wide. The player wasn't to know that which is why he handled it. He's trying to prevent a goal. Red card without doubt.

But the rules are about prevent a goal, not about intending to prevent one. His intention have nothing to do with it,.

Panthro

Get the absolute fcuk in.
Love it

Chucky the tree

Turtyturd wrote: »

Enjoyed that as much as you can enjoy a Mourinho win.

Arsenal let down again by having a forward of Giroud's.....eh 'quality'. Would have been different if he had taken his chance.

Are you not a Liverpool fan?

rob316

Stay classy Mourinho. God I hope him and that mob dont win the epl.

Pacifico

pistolpetes11 wrote: »

Bad Form from Jose , I know him and Arsene dont get on but show some respect .

What did he do?

Crann na Beatha

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So if the ball is going in and a player tries to handle the ball and misses it's a red because he tried to prevent the ball going in? Good to know.

Duck Soup

Pacifico wrote: »

What did he do?

He went down the tunnel before the final whistle. As he does a lot these days. Not sure that Wenger would have wanted the embarrassment of that final whistle handshake today anyway.

Turtyturd

Deleted User wrote: »

So if the ball is going in and a player tries to handle the ball and misses it's a red because he tried to prevent the ball going in? Good to know.

*scrape* *scrape* *scrape*

Andersonisgod

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Mourinho showing his complete lack of class again. Horrible man.

Mourinho management masterclass again today, just another example of why he us the finest manager in world football. Genius of a man.

Duck Soup

Arsenal really don't have a forward worth a spit these days do they?

Mr.Micro

MOTD should come with a warning for us Arsenal fans tonight......:eek::eek:

kevohmsford

Mourinho not shaking hands at the end is bad form

fullstop

Quazzie wrote: »

But the rules are about prevent a goal, not about intending to prevent one. His intention have nothing to do with it,.

Of course it does. If he's just standing there and doesn't move his arm out and the ball hits his hand it's not a penalty. He intentionally handles the ball so it's a pen and a red card

Amirani

fullstop wrote: »

Of course it does. If he's just standing there and doesn't move his arm out and the ball hits his hand it's not a penalty. He intentionally handles the ball so it's a pen and a red card

That situation is covered by another caveat in the rules though.

recylingbin

That's a serious bumming for the arse. Midfield and shrike force need serious surgery this summer

monkey9

Quazzie wrote: »

But the rules are about prevent a goal, not about intending to prevent one. His intention have nothing to do with it,.

How's the ref meant to know that it's going wide? Look, you can't really have any complaints here. The player knew what he was doing.

Turtyturd

Turtyturd wrote: »

*scrape* *scrape* *scrape*

Don't you have something to say about "The Rodgers" or Sturridge? Or will you suddenly be happy with the "top 4 trophy" you love joking about this season?

Donnielighto

Isn't any deliberate handball a red or have I that mixed up?

monkey9

monkey9 wrote: »

How's the ref meant to know that it's going wide? Look, you can't really have any complaints here. The player knew what he was doing.

So now we're not supposed to judge it from what we can see?

Quazzie

fullstop wrote: »

Of course it does. If he's just standing there and doesn't move his arm out and the ball hits his hand it's not a penalty. He intentionally handles the ball so it's a pen and a red card

A deliberate handball is not a red card. It never has been. In Fifa's Laws of the Game 2005, Law 12 says a free-kick or penalty will be awarded if a player handles the ball deliberately.

It states latter on "Referees are reminded that deliberately handling the ball is normally punished only by a direct free-kick or penalty kick if the offence occurred inside the penalty area. A caution or dismissal is not normally required."

So why is it a red card?

LiamoSail

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Mourinho management masterclass again today, just another example of why he us the finest manager in world football. Genius of a man.

Great manager, but if he was the finest in world football, he probably wouldn't have failed at Real, the side with the biggest budget in world football

Quazzie

monkey9 wrote: »

How's the ref meant to know that it's going wide? Look, you can't really have any complaints here. The player knew what he was doing.

If he doesn't know, that it's going wide, how does he know that it's going in, so how can he judge it to be denying a goal scoring opportunity ?

DazMarz

Fúcking jesus... I was in work so had to Sky Plus it and watch it deferred. Was avoiding the internet like a plague until I'd watched it all.

I just need to ask... What the fúck did I just watch???

Underground

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Mourinho management masterclass again today, just another example of why he us the finest manager in world football. Genius of a man.

Good god man give it a rest.

Andersonisgod

LiamoSail wrote: »

Great manager, but if he was the finest in world football, he probably wouldn't have failed at Real, the side with the biggest budget in world football

Circumstances and a toxic situation. Still though he did win a league and Cops Del Rey against the greatest team of their generation.

Amirani

Quazzie wrote: »

If he doesn't know, that it's going wide, how does he know that it's going in, so how can he judge it to be denying a goal scoring opportunity ?

He has to make a likelihood judgement so. No refereeing decision (or any judgement call really) is ever without uncertainty.

MisterAnarchy

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Mourinho management masterclass again today, just another example of why he us the finest manager in world football. Genius of a man.

Wengers suicidal tactics played right into his hands.
Every man and his dog knew how Chelsea would setup today and Wenger played right into his hands with his high back line and weak central midfield.
Mourinho couldnt believe his luck I'd imagine.

Panthro

DazMarz wrote: »

Fúcking jesus... I was in work so had to Sky Plus it and watch it deferred. Was avoiding the internet like a plague until I'd watched it all.

I just need to ask... What the fúck did I just watch???

"you've been served"

fullstop

Quazzie wrote: »

A deliberate handball is not a red card. It never has been. In Fifa's Laws of the Game 2005, Law 12 says a free-kick or penalty will be awarded if a player handles the ball deliberately.

It states latter on "Referees are reminded that deliberately handling the ball is normally punished only by a direct free-kick or penalty kick if the offence occurred inside the penalty area. A caution or dismissal is not normally required."

So why is it a red card?

But you said "his intention have (sic) nothing to do with it", when in this case, it clearly does. Maybe the wording of your post was poor, ironically

NiallSparky

NiallSparky wrote: »

He has to make a likelihood judgement so. No refereeing decision (or any judgement call really) is ever without uncertainty.

So would you say he was wrong to think it was going in?

GavRedKing

Deleted User wrote: »

So would you say he was wrong to think it was going in?

There was two people that thought it was going at least, the goalkeeeper and the Ox, both tried to stop the effort, one did.

WoollyRedHat

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Mourinho management masterclass again today, just another example of why he us the finest manager in world football. Genius of a man.

God, you must **** out hyperbole.

GavRedKing

GavRedKing wrote: »

There was two people that thought it was going at least, the goalkeeeper and the Ox, both tried to stop the effort, one did.

Was the ball going in? It's a pretty simple question.

Quazzie

But it doesn't matter what anyone thought*. The fact is it wasn't. Steve Mcmanamin even stated there that he doesn't think it should've been a red card.

*except the ref

monkey9

Quazzie wrote: »

If he doesn't know, that it's going wide, how does he know that it's going in, so how can he judge it to be denying a goal scoring opportunity ?

How does he know anything? How does he know that a player will go and score instead of the keeper saving it when he's hauled down by the last defender.

Lads, it's a red card ffs. The player knew what he doing. He though the ball was going in. The ref thought it was going in. It's his own fault he was sent off, nobody else's. You's have more to be worried about than this.

tigger123

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Was the ball going in? It's a pretty simple question.

A deliberate handball in the box.

LiamoSail

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Circumstances and a toxic situation. Still though he did win a league and Cops Del Rey against the greatest team of their generation.

Circumstances, you could argue that his abrasive management created.

Granted, he had huge competition in Barcelona, but that doesn't explain the lack of European success, or his failure last season when Barca were at their lowest ebb in a long time

So because the referee thought it was going in that makes it a correct decision? If the referee thinks someone is offside and calls it offside, and all the replays show that he wasn't offside does that mean the right call was made?

Amirani

Deleted User wrote: »

So would you say he was wrong to think it was going in?

Given the evidence available to him, not necessarily. In his position, the obvious thought would be that it's going in, based on Oxlade-Chamberlain's reaction if nothing else.

In hindsight, yes, he was wrong.