Snooker World Championship 2014

tanko

Selby is the Chelsea of snooker. His time wasting when it's obvious what the next shot is, face pulling and gamesmanship are all distasteful. Is he Graeme dott in disguise? It's a real pity Robertson didn't beat him. Come on Ronnie, wake up please!!

tomdempsey200

BNMC wrote: »

Of course they do. Selby is better though.

Selby wouldn't have a hope of beating O'Sullivan in a shootout, nobody would.

He's playing to his strengths. His safety shot has been brilliant.

ya

except the stats don't back your claims

selby is 0-1 in wc finals

and ronnie mostly beats him

Snake Plisken

Actually Ronnies parents ran sex shops in Soho! Actually his mam is a bit of a Gilf!

BNMC

tomdempsey200 wrote: »

ya

except the stats don't back your claims

selby is 0-1 in wc finals

and ronnie mostly beats him

That was 7 years ago.

It's 14-12.

Snake Plisken

He is a negative fecker Selby! Ronnie is looking fed up!

KERSPLAT!

The hate for Selby here is crazy

TimeToShine

BNMC wrote: »

Of course they do. Selby is better though.

Selby wouldn't have a hope of beating O'Sullivan in a shootout, nobody would.

He's playing to his strengths. His safety shot has been brilliant.

There's a difference between being a great safety player (such as Ebdon) and just being a negative player. Even when he gets a chance he's cowering behind the colours. Rather than try and finish him he's trying to get Ronnie to dismantle himself. His timewasting is cheap and he has been very dull to watch.

Don't get me wrong, he wants to win and it's quite obvious this is the best way to do it. Nobody is denying how effective his tactics are. Ronnie is probably is own worst enemy and it's starting to show. Still, when I sit down to watch snooker I expect a bit more than this borefest, especially for a WC final. As fans we are entitled to complain about boring play, similiar to how all football fans complain about how Chelsea do business. Snooker will struggle without players like Ronnie.

BNMC

TimeToShine wrote: »

There's a difference between being a great safety player (such as Ebdon) and just being a negative player. Even when he gets a chance he's cowering behind the colours. Rather than try and finish him he's trying to get Ronnie to dismantle himself. His timewasting is cheap and he has been very dull to watch.

Don't get me wrong, he wants to win and it's quite obvious this is the best way to do it. Nobody is denying how effective his tactics are. Ronnie is probably is own worst enemy and it's starting to show. Still, when I sit down to watch snooker I expect a bit more than this borefest, especially for a WC final. As fans we are entitled to complain about boring play, similiar to how all football fans complain about how Chelsea do business. Snooker will struggle without players like Ronnie.

And yet after 26 frames, here you are still watching it.

It's intriguing if nothing else.

Addle

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Ronnie is looking fed up!

Is his sports psychologist not working with him

willmunny1990

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

The hate for Selby here is crazy

I actually hope he goes on to win it now!:D

Adamocovic

Why are so many people hating Selby here? He normally is a great player to watch but his potting is off form, so he's relying on safety and tactics. It's working, what would people rather he goes out there and leaves every ball open to Ronnie and loses 18-4? Safety and tactics are all part of snooker and when your off form at one area of your game you need to use the other to compensate and that is what Selby is doing.

Addle

Nobody was more negative the Ebdon!

Kaizersoze81

Even the commentators saying he's playing too conservatively.

Snake Plisken

Addle wrote: »

Is his sports psychologist not working with him

There's only so much he can do, Ronnie starting to see every shot he plays not come off and Selby's getting the run of the balls!

Myrddin

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

The hate for Selby here is crazy

It's quite amazing. Selby knows how to beat Ronnie, the only way is to grind him down, keep the white welded to the cushion when you play safe, & break Ronnie's momentum. Unfortunately, that style doesn't translate well into exciting Snooker, but it works, evidently. You'd swear Selby's priority should be entertaining us or something.

Snake Plisken

Addle wrote: »

Nobody was more negative the Ebdon!

Sinead o'connors twin Graham Dott is IMHO!

tomdempsey200

Addle wrote: »

Is his sports psychologist not working with him

psychiatrist

bren2001

TimeToShine wrote: »

There's a difference between being a great safety player (such as Ebdon) and just being a negative player. Even when he gets a chance he's cowering behind the colours. Rather than try and finish him he's trying to get Ronnie to dismantle himself. His timewasting is cheap and he has been very dull to watch.

Don't get me wrong, he wants to win and it's quite obvious this is the best way to do it. Nobody is denying how effective his tactics are. Ronnie is probably is own worst enemy and it's starting to show. Still, when I sit down to watch snooker I expect a bit more than this borefest, especially for a WC final. As fans we are entitled to complain about boring play, similiar to how all football fans complain about how Chelsea do business. Snooker will struggle without players like Ronnie.

I'm sorry, are you saying Ebdon, Peter bloody Ebdon is better to watch than Selby? Ebdon was the most negative player I have ever seen. Selby is not usually this negative but what choice does he have? he isn't potting well.

Muppet Man

Ronnie is starting to appear disinterested to be honest. Selby's safety play really is top drawer.

Davei141

O Sullivan looks done in this match. His potting has gone to crap.

Finno59

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

The hate for Selby here is crazy

God i hate selby :pac:
Ronnie looks rattled, nothing he can do unless the pressure gets to selby

AlwaysAnyTime

Myrddin wrote: »

It's quite amazing. Selby knows how to beat Ronnie, the only way is to grind him down, keep the white welded to the cushion when you play safe, & break Ronnie's momentum. Unfortunately, that style doesn't translate well into exciting Snooker, but it works, evidently. You'd swear Selby's priority should be entertaining us or something.

Beating Ronnie would be enough entertainment for me anyway

amkin25

I don't think it's anywhere as bad as ebdon and can't blame selby for the strategy coz ronnie is imploding why not use whatever you can to beat him he is playing well i think

TimeToShine

bren2001 wrote: »

I'm sorry, are you saying Ebdon, Peter bloody Ebdon is better to watch than Selby? Ebdon was the most negative player I have ever seen. Selby is not usually this negative but what choice does he have? he isn't potting well.

Not at all, he was a safety man but he at least went for it when it was on. I suppose there are a few of us on one side and a few on the other so we'll just have to see how the game pans out! I still maintain it will be a shame if Selby wins with a grand total of zero centuries and no breaks of note. Just my opinion btw, I know it's his gameplan.

squadro

Addle wrote: »

Nobody was more negative the Ebdon!

depends on how old ya are. cliff thorburn aka the grinder, eddie charlton who specialised in breaks of 12 and then running for cover, terry griffiths the welshman who went looking for snookers even if he didnt need them.

Myrddin

Myrddin wrote: »

It's quite amazing. Selby knows how to beat Ronnie, the only way is to grind him down, keep the white welded to the cushion when you play safe, & break Ronnie's momentum. Unfortunately, that style doesn't translate well into exciting Snooker, but it works, evidently. You'd swear Selby's priority should be entertaining us or something.

Exactly. His temperament is fantastic too. Everything he makes 30 and breaks down he plays a class safety and forces a mistake

The stuff about hiding behind the colours is ridiculous too. What do people expect. Him to take on a 50 50 colour against Ronnie?? If you miss he'll make 70 in a flash.

BNMC

Great stuff from Selby.

He's won 8 of the last 10 frames.

This could be over very early.

willmunny1990

TimeToShine wrote: »

There's a difference between being a great safety player (such as Ebdon) and just being a negative player. Even when he gets a chance he's cowering behind the colours. Rather than try and finish him he's trying to get Ronnie to dismantle himself. His timewasting is cheap and he has been very dull to watch.

Don't get me wrong, he wants to win and it's quite obvious this is the best way to do it. Nobody is denying how effective his tactics are. Ronnie is probably is own worst enemy and it's starting to show. Still, when I sit down to watch snooker I expect a bit more than this borefest, especially for a WC final. As fans we are entitled to complain about boring play, similiar to how all football fans complain about how Chelsea do business. Snooker will struggle without players like Ronnie.

Results always come before entertainment. Its a loser mentality to think otherwise.

Quite frankly, what you want to see when you sit down and watch snooker is irrelevant to players in this position. Selby is not out there to please you or anyone else, hes there to win this trophy.

Fans are fickle creatures, Ronnie fans will be bitter and frustrated and will piss and moan about Selby and his tactics, Selby fans will be delighted with his performance and will appreciate his tactical prowess and magnificent match play.

Its up to Ronnie to combat Selby's style, hes just not good enough to do it today it would seem.

finnharpsboy

in the words of Jose Mourinho its 19th century tactics

amkin25

I also think he feel's ronnie imploding,and is turning the screw with safety and giving ronnie enough rope to hang himself.