Flash In the Pan Managers

James__10

Aidy Boothroyd
Paul Jewell
Avram Grant
Roberto Di Matteo

2moreMinutes

A+. Would read again.

Ganymede Glow

Owen Coyle

chips1234

flash in the pan threads

this one

3hn2givr7mx1sc

AVB?

Alfred Borden

Juande Ramos

Ulysses Gaze

Hector Cuper

ShoulderChip

Raf32 wrote: »

Juande Ramos

I agree, and have chosen to quote this rather than thank it

Ulysses Gaze

Javier Clemente

5starpool

Alex Ferguson. I can't see him getting another PL managers job.

ShoulderChip

5starpool wrote: »

Alex Ferguson. I can't see him getting another PL managers job.

But he has had such a long career I don't think it would be fair to categorise him as a flash in the pan.

barone

john gregory

murpho999

Peter Taylor
George Burley
Owen Coyle

Amirani

Raf32 wrote: »

Juande Ramos

I think this is slightly harsh. He's won more big trophies than most managers.

counterlock

Dave O Leary

fullstop

ShoulderChip wrote: »

But he has had such a long career I don't think it would be fair to categorise him as a flash in the pan.

Whoosh!

ShoulderChip

fullstop wrote: »

Whoosh!

Indicates that the joke just told was too sophisticated for the listener and has gone "way over their head".

Vurnon San Benito

Phil Brown.

eh i dunno

Mike Walker

Neil3030

Wim Jansen, maybe?

Ulysses Gaze

Wim Jansen?

He retired after his time at Celtic so not sure if he would count.

mike65

Whoever it was that got the job at Blackburn after that bloke was sacked and before the next bloke was sacked. Yeah him.

wonga77

Steve Staunton

Neil3030

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Wim Jansen?

He retired after his time at Celtic so not sure if he would count.

Why did he retire actually, do you know?

dreamers75

Neil3030 wrote: »

Why did he retire actually, do you know?

This

1.28 is fuking heartbreaking for me

counterlock

wonga77 wrote: »

Steve Staunton

There isn't a single element of success in his management career for him to be considered a flash in the pan

smackbunnybaby

Neil3030 wrote: »

Why did he retire actually, do you know?

Flash in the pan indicates you were briefly good, but then suddenly stopped being good. Wim Jansen never stopped being good, he just resigned!

On 3 July 1997, Wim Jansen was appointed as head coach of Celtic, replacing the sacked Tommy Burns. He went on to guide them to their first Scottish league championship in 10 years, ending the hopes of rival Rangers to win a tenth consecutive championship. Despite winning the league and the Scottish League Cup during his only season in charge, Jansen left the club less than 48 hours after the title was secured due to a personality clash with general manager Jock Brown. His most notable transfer was the signing of Henrik Larsson from Feyenoord.

GTR63

Paul Le Guen

Fr Tod Umptious

That Swiss guy that managed Spurs for a while

Cienciano

counterlock wrote: »

There isn't a single element of success in his management career for him to be considered a flash in the pan

I think the name "Steve Staunton" is a legitimate funny stock answer for any thread about managers.

fullstop

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

That Swiss guy that managed Spurs for a while

Christian Gross? Was trying to think of his name to post it then read your post!

eagle eye

Gianluca Vialli would be the one for me. He won the Cup Winner's cup. FA Cup, League Cup. Charity Shield and Super Cup with Chelsea in a couple of seasons. He also brought them to the Champion's League for the first time and brought them to the QFs in it. He then fell out with the players and got sacked, went to Watford and failed miserably. He hasn't managed since.

brianregan09

Tim Sherwood....he started off well

Sir Gallagher

ShoulderChip wrote: »

But he has had such a long career I don't think it would be fair to categorise him as a flash in the pan.

Rikand

mike65 wrote: »

Whoever it was that got the job at Blackburn after that bloke was sacked and before the next bloke was sacked. Yeah him.

Steve kean ?

no wait

Henning Berg ?

no wait

Michael Appleton ?

flazio

Whatever happened to Peter Reid?

dsmythy

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

That Swiss guy that managed Spurs for a while

He never achieved anything at Spurs so flash in the pan doesn't quite cover it. Also after Spurs he spent 10 good years as Basel manager.

cloneslad

barone wrote: »

john gregory

He's doing a decent job since he took over Crawley Town earlier in the season.

theteal

counterlock wrote: »

Dave O Leary

"he takes all arsenal's penalties"

LiamoSail

Neil3030 wrote: »

Wim Jansen, maybe?

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Wim Jansen?

He retired after his time at Celtic so not sure if he would count.

Neil3030 wrote: »

Why did he retire actually, do you know?

Something I never understood. Celtic played some brilliant football under Jansen, were great to watch. I know he didn't get on with Brown or McCann so quit, strange that he didn't manage anyone again

I think he went on to be DoF at Feyenoord or something like that

geeky

+1 to the Dave O'Leary, Vialli, Phil Brown and Paul Jewell - had a brief period of seeming pretty excellent and then went downhill fast. Possibly also Peter Reid.

I'd also nominate Ruud Gullit and Paolo Di Canio. Glenn Roeder and Stuart Pearce looked like they were going to be good at Newcastle and City respectively. Would Alan Curbishly count? He had a long enough purple patch with Charlton, but everything he's done since has been very meh.

Finally, at a much lower level, Roddy Collins did a very good job at Bohs and has been a walking punchline ever since.

I just don't understand the disdain towards Di Matteo, however. In his first job, he got MK Dons to third place in the league and a play-off final. In his second job, he got West Brom up to the Premier League playing great football, and got sacked after his first bad run while still outside the relegation zone. In his third job, he took charge of a demoralised and difficult squad, winning the FA Cup and Champions League. Then he got sacked during his first sticky spell. His record covers three full seasons, league finishes in 3rd, 2nd, 6th, one promotion and two major trophies. He clearly does something right.

Skylinehead

geeky wrote: »

+1 to the Dave O'Leary, Vialli, Phil Brown and Paul Jewell - had a brief period of seeming pretty excellent and then went downhill fast. Possibly also Peter Reid.

I'd also nominate Ruud Gullit and Paolo Di Canio. Glenn Roeder and Stuart Pearce looked like they were going to be good at Newcastle and City respectively. Would Alan Curbishly count? He had a long enough purple patch with Charlton, but everything he's done since has been very meh.

Finally, at a much lower level, Roddy Collins did a very good job at Bohs and has been a walking punchline ever since.

I just don't understand the disdain towards Di Matteo, however. In his first job, he got MK Dons to third place in the league and a play-off final. In his second job, he got West Brom up to the Premier League playing great football, and got sacked after his first bad run while still outside the relegation zone. In his third job, he took charge of a demoralised and difficult squad, winning the FA Cup and Champions League. Then he got sacked during his first sticky spell. His record covers three full seasons, league finishes in 3rd, 2nd, 6th, one promotion and two major trophies. He clearly does something right.

I don't think that's fair on Curbishley. He got West Ham to a 10th place finish and then left the next season (when they were 5th) due to a transfer dispute. He hasn't taken any jobs since bar the Fulham DoF.

ctrl-alt-delete

Tim Sherwood.

Richard Hillman

counterlock wrote: »

There isn't a single element of success in his management career for him to be considered a flash in the pan

There was the glorious 3-0 destruction of Sweden. Lest we forget :P

kfallon

Kevin Keegan

Alfred Borden

Michael Laudrup?

BMJD

Bruce Rioch - got Bolton to a league cup final and promotion to the Premier League, then moved to Arsenal, succeeding George Graham. Lasted one season and never really got anywhere significant after that.

SantryRed

Aidy Boothroyd is a great shout. Came in at Watford with his hoofball approach, had an incredible first season and we went up, spanking Leeds in the play off final. Straight back down the next season, and played well until October, but from then on, it all just went downhill, and that can be said for all his jobs since too.

Paz-CCFC

Pat Scully.

Had a good season with Kilkenny City, went to Rovers and won the First Division in his first season. Then he had them as Drogheda's closest title challengers towards the end of the 2007, but fell from 2nd to 5th place. Another unremarkable season in 2008, where he left before the end. He did win the First Division with Limerick, but only when he was given a very big budget and when all the other good teams (Cork City, Derry City, Shels, Monaghan) got promoted ahead of them.

At one point, he was regarded as the best up-and-coming manager in the league by many (myself included), but he didn't really build on it. He's had his fair share of bust ups with players during his career.

Owen_S

Di Matteo is still collecting 130k/week from Chelsea until the end of June, you'll definitely see him back managing next season. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2503321/Chelsea-paying-Roberto-Di-Matteo-130-000-week.html

Richard Hillman

Nigel Adkins
Brian McDermott