Patrick Nulty resigns as TD

BabysCoffee · 23-03-2014 11:31am #1

I've not got the papers yet but I see reports on the Internet that Patrick Nulty has resigned as TD - it seems he sent inappropriate messages to a 17yr old on Facebook.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/revealed-what-shamed-td-patrick-nulty-sent-teenager-30117320.html

I guess this leaves his seat up for grabs by Dennison or McGuinness?

spooky donkey · 23-03-2014 3:12pm

who is this dennision fella, I don't think ive heard of him...

BabysCoffee · 23-03-2014 3:15pm

spooky donkey wrote: »

who is this dennision fella, I don't think ive heard of him...

Kieran Dennison - FG
Current Mayor of Fingal afaik

Zaph · 23-03-2014 3:31pm

He was a candidate in the last general election, as was McGuinness. Dennison performed significantly better but FF have made up some ground so if the two of them stood in the by-election it could be a lot closer this time. I'd still expect Dennision to come out on top though. Not sure what other candidates there are likely to be, particularly for Labour.

LoonyLovegood · 23-03-2014 5:53pm

In all fairness, neither Burton or Varadkar are going to want anyone possibly impeeding on them getting votes in the next election, it'll be tight for them both. Could SF get the seat?

athtrasna · 23-03-2014 8:26pm

Anyone else got bye-election fatigue? Second in under 5 years zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Nulty was the product of the last one..well done on electing him :P

According to the radio tonight, bye-election likely to be same day as Local Elections ie May 23rd. I have a problem with this as most/all the candidates are likely to run in the locals too meaning a co-option if they get elected to both. Pretty undemocratic IMO

Zaph · 23-03-2014 10:33pm

athtrasna wrote: »

I have a problem with this as most/all the candidates are likely to run in the locals too meaning a co-option if they get elected to both. Pretty undemocratic IMO

I totally agree. Any chance that I'd ever vote for Joe Higgins again was blown after the 2009 elections where he stood in both the local and European elections. He knew he was a shoo-in for a council seat and had a good chance of getting voted into Europe. He managed both and then had a party member co-opted into his local council seat. Two years later he did exactly the same thing when he was elected to the Dáil and another of his colleagues replaced him in Europe. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of people voted for Joe rather than his party and wouldn't have given his colleagues much thought, but ultimately ended up "electing" an extra Socialist Party councillor and MEP.

Murt10 · 23-03-2014 10:41pm

athtrasna wrote: »

Anyone else got bye-election fatigue? Second in under 5 years zzzzzzzzzzzzz

No. No. No.

Another opportunity to kick FF where it hurts after driving this Country into bankruptcy.

All the current joblessness can be laid fairly and squarely at their feet. They had everything and blew it. They foisted debts onto our shoulders, and our childrens shoulders. Now our well educated young people have to emigrate to get a job.

FF should have disbanded after the last election. A party of chancers, liars, gombeens, cute hoores and crooks.

athtrasna · 23-03-2014 10:52pm

Zaph wrote: »

I totally agree. Any chance that I'd ever vote for Joe Higgins again was blown after the 2009 elections where he stood in both the local and European elections. He knew he was a shoo-in for a council seat and had a good chance of getting voted into Europe. He managed both and then had a party member co-opted into his local council seat. Two years later he did exactly the same thing when he was elected to the Dáil and another of his colleagues replaced him in Europe. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of people voted for Joe rather than his party and wouldn't have given his colleagues much thought, but ultimately ended up "electing" an extra Socialist Party councillor and MEP.

Exactly who I meant. Once was hard to take but a second time was unforgiveable. The ultimate "jobs for the boys" game.

Hilly Bill · 24-03-2014 1:31am

Murt10 wrote: »

No. No. No.

Another opportunity to kick FF where it hurts after driving this Country into bankruptcy.

All the current joblessness can be laid fairly and squarely at their feet. They had everything and blew it. They foisted debts onto our shoulders, and our childrens shoulders. Now our well educated young people have to emigrate to get a job.

FF should have disbanded after the last election. A party of chancers, liars, gombeens, cute hoores and crooks.[/QUOTE]

Name one party that isnt.

LostinBlanch · 24-03-2014 12:19pm

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Murt10 wrote: »

No. No. No.

Another opportunity to kick FF where it hurts after driving this Country into bankruptcy.

All the current joblessness can be laid fairly and squarely at their feet. They had everything and blew it. They foisted debts onto our shoulders, and our childrens shoulders. Now our well educated young people have to emigrate to get a job.

FF should have disbanded after the last election. A party of chancers, liars, gombeens, cute hoores and crooks.[/QUOTE]

Name one party that isnt.

A plague on all their houses.

Larbre34 · 24-03-2014 1:15pm

Its funny how quickly we move on, no one even mentioned being disappointed at losing Nulty's representation for reasons of addiction and personal responsibility!

I'm disappointed, I thought he was a good rep and very active. However no question he had to go immediately.

As for a replacement, prepare to be bewildered on election day, there will probably be at least 4 ballots in the Dublin West stations - local, european, bye-election and mayoral plebiscite. Busy weekend for the election staff!

Hard to know who will get the seat, could be a yet unknown independent due to the plague on all parties, and people are certainly fed up with Higgins and Co messing and falling out and co-opting here and there

My money would be on a Shinner in a shiny suit. Try saying that after a few shandies.

ThisRegard · 24-03-2014 1:21pm

Larbre34 wrote: »

As for a replacement, prepare to be bewildered on election day, there will probably be at least 4 ballots in the Dublin West stations - local, european, bye-election and mayoral plebiscite. Busy weekend for the election staff!

I doubt the government will happen on the same day as the local election, logically it makes sense, I just don't think time will allow it to happen.

Zaph · 24-03-2014 2:15pm

According to the Irish Times this morning it's most likely to be in the autumn. This would allow them to hold any other bye elections necessary due to TDs being elected as MEPs on the same day.

SweetPotatoes · 24-03-2014 3:55pm

I am curious why different standards apply to TDs like Mr. Nulty and Cabinet ministers such as Phil Hogan.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/phil-hogan-sorry-for-lewd-remark-26833366.html

LoonyLovegood · 24-03-2014 6:02pm

Nulty had a standard of personal responsibility? Also, his wasn't to a minor.

athtrasna · 24-03-2014 9:38pm

SweetPotatoes wrote: »

I am curious why different standards apply to TDs like Mr. Nulty and Cabinet ministers such as Phil Hogan.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/phil-hogan-sorry-for-lewd-remark-26833366.html

In the context of this thread former Deputy Nulty represented Dublin 15 and Minister Hogan didn't. In real life...a "lewd" remark is a million miles away from sending "adult" messages to a 17 year old, asking another woman for her underwear and generally making inappropriate comments and approaches to constituents.

As someone who's lived in D15 for a decade now, I was amazed at how Nulty went from being constantly in touch with constituents, leaflet drops, canvassing etc...to nothing since he won the Bye-Election. I won't miss him.

el pasco · 24-03-2014 11:08pm

athtrasna wrote: »

In the context of this thread former Deputy Nulty represented Dublin 15 and Minister Hogan didn't. In real life...a "lewd" remark is a million miles away from sending "adult" messages to a 17 year old, asking another woman for her underwear and generally making inappropriate comments and approaches to constituents.

As someone who's lived in D15 for a decade now, I was amazed at how Nulty went from being constantly in touch with constituents, leaflet drops, canvassing etc...to nothing since he won the Bye-Election. I won't miss him.

Why did he really resign?
Like let's look at Gerry Adams??
And what he did
Mick Wallace the bankrupt TD
Michael Lowry Charles Haughey the list is endless
If the TD all followed his standard the Dail may very well be empty

athtrasna · 24-03-2014 11:24pm

el pasco wrote: »

Why did he really resign?
Like let's look at Gerry Adams??
And what he did
Mick Wallace the bankrupt TD
Michael Lowry Charles Haughey the list is endless
If the TD all followed his standard the Dail may very well be empty

Either the under 18 aspect or the fact that he did what he did from Leinster House, or both.

SweetPotatoes · 24-03-2014 11:25pm

<SNIP>

Gaspode · 24-03-2014 11:34pm

@sweetpotatoes if you've something useful to add go for it, otherwise leave out the rubbish posts please. You've already made those posts in other forums so no need to repeat them here.

hotmail.com · 25-03-2014 1:14am

The by-election is between Fianna Fail, The Socialist Party and Sinn Fein. As Sinn Fein has never got any kind of foothold in the area, that really just leaves the contest between Fianna Fail and The Socialist Party.

Flimbos · 25-03-2014 4:31pm

Looks like David Hall may be set to throw his hat into the ring.

http://www.thejournal.ie/david-hall-dublin-west-by-election-1379791-Mar2014/

He could turn out to be a very strong candidate.

ThisRegard · 25-03-2014 4:38pm

Flimbos wrote: »

He could turn out to be a very strong candidate.

I would say opinion is split down the middle on him between those who are in mortgage arrears and struggling, and those that bought a modest house well within their means taking potential job losses into consideration when taking out a mortgage.

chucknorris · 25-03-2014 4:44pm

ThisRegard wrote: »

I would say opinion is split down the middle on him between those who are in mortgage arrears and struggling, and those that bought a modest house well within their means taking potential job losses into consideration when taking out a mortgage.

ThisRegard is correct. Allot of people are not happy about how he also got debt write offs for people were still in full employment, but chanced their arm on the fact they were in negative equity.

RainyDay · 25-03-2014 4:52pm

Flimbos wrote: »

Looks like David Hall may be set to throw his hat into the ring.

http://www.thejournal.ie/david-hall-dublin-west-by-election-1379791-Mar2014/

He could turn out to be a very strong candidate.

ThisRegard wrote: »

I would say opinion is split down the middle on him between those who are in mortgage arrears and struggling, and those that bought a modest house well within their means taking potential job losses into consideration when taking out a mortgage.

Opinion will split even further when news of his previous membership of FIanna Fail and close association with Brian Lenihan (the man who created the mortgage mess that Hall claims to be fixing) becomes well known;

http://www.thepropertypin.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=60864

ThisRegard · 25-03-2014 4:59pm

I wasn't aware of that myself.

chucknorris · 25-03-2014 5:10pm

ThisRegard wrote: »

I wasn't aware of that myself.

That's why he is testing the water before deciding if he will run or not.

Godge · 25-03-2014 5:14pm

Flimbos wrote: »

Looks like David Hall may be set to throw his hat into the ring.

http://www.thejournal.ie/david-hall-dublin-west-by-election-1379791-Mar2014/

He could turn out to be a very strong candidate.

It would be quite something if a constituency with high levels of social housing and pockets of poverty managed to elect a person who was successful in getting sweetheart deals from the banks for select groups of people in the know. In effect, a man who robs the poor to pay the rich winning an election.

Flimbos · 25-03-2014 5:26pm

ThisRegard wrote: »

I would say opinion is split down the middle on him between those who are in mortgage arrears and struggling, and those that bought a modest house well within their means taking potential job losses into consideration when taking out a mortgage.

chucknorris wrote: »

ThisRegard is correct. Allot of people are not happy about how he also got debt write offs for people were still in full employment, but chanced their arm on the fact they were in negative equity.

This is very true, but it would be likely that he would be afforded a disproportionate amount of media air time due to his existing profile, and he'll know this could help give him a head start on other candidates.

It does look like he is very much testing the water at the minute before committing.

SweetPotatoes · 25-03-2014 5:50pm

Gaspode wrote: »

@sweetpotatoes if you've something useful to add go for it, otherwise leave out the rubbish posts please. You've already made those posts in other forums so no need to repeat them here.

No need to add anything. Just pointing out similarities between two pigs who hold public office. What is your issue with me doing that?

Patrick Nulty resigns as TD

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