Ebola virus outbreak

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Adamantium wrote: »

Measles kills 120,000 per year, Ebola has killed 2500 so far

This is true however the Ebola infection rate has increased exponentially in the last few months which is the main concern.

Nesta99

old_aussie wrote: »

Yeah measles is still a killer in countries with poor public health facillities.

Most western countries have measles controled through vaccinations.

That's the good thing about measles, there is a vaccine that works.

Absolutely Measles is a big killer and it is disgraceful that vacinations are available that would reduce this via herd immunity that is effectively used in Ireland for example. The issue with ebola is if it becomes as prevalent in population like measles it will kill millions rather than 100,000. The same with seasonal flu et al - yes these acutally and regularly kill significant numbers but an Ebola pandemic would decimate populations in the millions, 1918 Spanish Flu would be made look like a dose of the sniffles - which some quietly think is necessary and a natural issue of population control!!! It is just wrong that the largest potential number of deaths will be the poorest on the planet and concentrated in areas that the powers that be can conveniently ignore...

Turtwig

Eh no.

Ebola has a very high mortality rate but that doesn't mean it's going to kill the numbers an influenza like pathogen can. Ebola is not that infectious. If you're in the same room as a person with the flu there's a chance you could get it. With ebola you gotta come into contact with their bodily fluids. So it's a lot harder to spread. In fact, to put it crudely if it were to become widespread in an area like Ireland it would be mostly other people's studipity and disregard for the health of others that causes it to be case. Whereas with the flu even if everyone dideverything absolutely right there's still a decent chance the virus would spread among the population. In short, ebola is only as dangerous as the deficit of awareness in a given region. Influenza spreads far far easier. So will likely kill much more.

The problem with Ebola is that's it's a horrific way to die. Emotively that biases us. It also doesn't help that so many people mistake the common cold, or flu like symptoms, for an actual bout of the flu. Making them incredibly naive about influenza in the first place. Bird Flu is one nasty piece of work and all most people did was joke about it. Yet the same folk are mostly scaremongering like mad about ebola. It's an amazing insight into humans really. Ebola may become a global pandemic, it may kills millions but it does not have the same potential for killing and infecting that other pandemics do.

snubbleste

Patient zero suspected found from last December

Patient Zero, researchers suspect, was a 2-year-old boy who died on Dec. 6 2013, just a few days after falling ill in a village in southeastern Guinea.
A week later, it killed the boy’s mother, then his 3-year-old sister, then his grandmother. All had fever, vomiting and diarrhea, but no one knew what had sickened them.
Two mourners at the grandmother’s funeral took the virus home to their village. A health worker carried it to still another, where he died, as did his doctor. They both infected relatives from other towns.
By the time Ebola was recognized, in March, dozens of people had died in eight Guinean communities, and suspected cases were popping up in Liberia and Sierra Leone..
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/10/world/africa/tracing-ebolas-breakout-to-an-african-2-year-old.html?_r=0

snubbleste

♫ https://soundcloud.com/unicef-liberia/hott-fm-ebola-song-liberia ♪

snubbleste

Nigeria confirms a tenth ebola case
"All were people who had had direct contact with Patrick Sawyer, who collapsed on arrival at Lagos airport on July 25..""
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/11/health-ebola-nigeria-idUKL6N0QH1S520140811

aujopimur

I found 10 pints of Beamish gives makes you think you have ebola.

snubbleste

According to WHO: Staff at the outbreak sites see evidence that the numbers of reported cases and deaths vastly underestimate the magnitude of the outbreak
and MSF: It will take about six months to bring under control the Ebola epidemic in West Africa which feels like "wartime"

old_aussie

Looks like panic is spreading in Liberia.

People ere trying to flee areas that are quarantined.

Liberian soldiers on Wednesday fired into a crowd of young men who were trying to escape a quarantine that cordoned off an Ebola-stricken neighborhood in the capital.

Some 75,000 people live in West Point, a community that filled the breadth of a sandy peninsula during the war. Many of its residents sleep head-to-toe on thin foam mats that line concrete floors, a density of population that along with poor sanitation explains why the township was battered with cholera epidemics even before Ebola took root there.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/ebola-crisis-raises-new-security-concerns-in-liberia-1408559352

FullblownRose

Did anyone here about a case in the U.K or is that untrue?

FullblownRose

FullblownRose wrote: »

Did anyone here about a case in the U.K or is that untrue?

havent heard about it , if correct.

There is a list here and they update it everyday or when the numbers change, curretly, UK is not on it.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php

Today, the American patient who had Ebola is being released from hospital

''An American doctor who contracted the Ebola virus while working in West Africa will be released from an Atlanta hospital on Thursday, officials said. Dr. Kent Brantly, 33, worked with Christian aid organization Samaritan’s Purse in Liberia treating patients with the deadly virus when he fell ill. He and Nancy Writebol, an aid worker who also contracted Ebola while doing missionary work in Liberia, received experimental treatment before being flown to an isolation unit in Emory University Hospital in Atlanta in early August. Brantly was due to make a statement at an 11 a.m. ET news conference. Writebol, 59, will be discharged from the hospital's isolation unit but it was not immediately clear whether she would also leave the facility.''

NBC.news.com

Seedy Arling

aujopimur wrote: »

I found 10 pints of Beamish gives makes you think you have ebola.

Ebola of the arse.

FullblownRose

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/tests-under-way-for-ebola-following-donegal-death-1.1904073#.U_Y7oQ9cCzs.facebook

Donegal.

Kunkka

FullblownRose wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/tests-under-way-for-ebola-following-donegal-death-1.1904073#.U_Y7oQ9cCzs.facebook

Donegal.

Not confirmed yet but doesn't look good...

NIMAN

I'll bet you €20 that isn't Ebola.

chicken foot

Unless you're planning on wading through the secretions of this man then I wouldn't worry too much! It's very easy to not transmit. If still bring my Milton wipes if heading to Letterkenny hospital though

ednwireland

It is understood he had been living with his partner in Dublin but was visiting his family in Co Donegal when he was taken ill.

(irish times)
think the dubs should be worried ?

It is understood that Mr Quinn had not been to see a doctor since his return to this country. - See more at: Company of possible Irish Ebola victim return all staff from Sierra Leone - Independent.ie

seriously though he came back from sierra Leone ill and hadn't seen a doctor in 2 weeks - I'm gobsmacked:eek:

at least I'm out of letterkenny general

ardinn

Im pretty sure this guy had not got ebola! He probably would have gone to a doctor, with, you know, bleeding eyes and such!!

FullblownRose

ardinn wrote: »

Im pretty sure this guy had not got ebola! He probably would have gone to a doctor, with, you know, bleeding eyes and such!!

He died of Malaria as far as I know. I just wanted to point out that very ill people in the grip of fever might not be sensible enough to seek medical help. Just a thought.

snubbleste

A seperate outbreak of ebola has been reported in Congo.
Health minister - "I declare an Ebola epidemic in the region of Djera, in the territory of Boende in the province of Equateur, DR Congo"
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2014/08/congo-ebola-outbreak-2014824183430461469.html

Birroc

snubbleste wrote: »

A seperate outbreak of ebola has been reported in Congo.
Health minister - "I declare an Ebola epidemic in the region of Djera, in the territory of Boende in the province of Equateur, DR Congo"
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2014/08/congo-ebola-outbreak-2014824183430461469.html

My athlete's foot is back too and I am not even an athlete, life's a bitch.

homemadecider

snubbleste wrote: »

A seperate outbreak of ebola has been reported in Congo.
Health minister - "I declare an Ebola epidemic in the region of Djera, in the territory of Boende in the province of Equateur, DR Congo"
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2014/08/congo-ebola-outbreak-2014824183430461469.html

They've had outbreaks of Ebola in DRC before. I travelled there 2 years ago and they had an Ebola situation in North Kivu for a while. It's not a new thing to the country.

FullblownRose

Ebola outbreaks aren't that unusual, it's the spread of it that marks this out as unusual..considering it's not as easily transmissable as something like 'flu. also, the similarity to, and assumption that it might be, Malaria, goes back to the very first recorded case of Ebola. The first documented victim of Ebola presented with Malarial symptoms in a place that was already very familiar with Malaria and because the medical professional who treated the Ebola patient was all too used to Malaria patients, she thought that he had Malaria, and because there was a shortage of clean needles, she injected the patient with Malaria medicine and sent him on his way and then went on to re-use the same dirty needle, on another patient, thus unknowingly contaminating that next patient she injected, with Ebola.

Ebola outbreaks aren't unusual but the spread of Ebola IS unusual. It doesn't usually sread in the way it is spreading lately.

Godge

FullblownRose wrote: »

Ebola outbreaks aren't that unusual, it's the spread of it that marks this out as unusual..considering it's not as easily transmissable as something like 'flu. also, the similarity to, and assumption that it might be, Malaria, goes back to the very first recorded case of Ebola. The first documented victim of Ebola presented with Malarial symptoms in a place that was already very familiar with Malaria and because the medical professional who treated the Ebola patient was all too used to Malaria patients, she thought that he had Malaria, and because there was a shortage of clean needles, she injected the patient with Malaria medicine and sent him on his way and then went on to re-use the same dirty needle, on another patient, thus unknowingly contaminating that next patient she injected, with Ebola.

Ebola outbreaks aren't unusual but the spread of Ebola IS unusual. It doesn't usually sread in the way it is spreading lately.

The mortality rate is way down in the current outbreak, somewhere around 50% in comparison to 80% in previous outbreaks. There is a real question mark as to whether the decreased mortality rate is linked to the increased ease of transmission.

What if it dropped to 30% and became transmissable by air? That is the real scary one.

snubbleste

Nigeria confirms doctor's death from Ebola in Port Harcourt.
He died on Aug 22 after treating a patient who had contact with a Liberian man who brought the virus to Lagos and died on July 25. http://dailypost.ng/2014/08/28/ebola-case-confirmed-port-harcourt/

So it spreads from Lagos 600km to Port Harcourt.

Chairman Meow

Godge wrote: »

The mortality rate is way down in the current outbreak, somewhere around 50% in comparison to 80% in previous outbreaks. There is a real question mark as to whether the decreased mortality rate is linked to the increased ease of transmission.

What if it dropped to 30% and became transmissable by air? That is the real scary one.

Ebola has been transmissible by air in the past, im in the middle of reading a book about the virus at the moment and in a case in the 1980s, Ebola was spread from sick monkeys to healthy monkeys in the same room, but at a distance where they couldn't have been in physical contact.
Its a scary ****ing virus. The first ever case of human to human infection sounded like something out of 28 days later, a patient vomited blood into a doctors face...****ing horrific.

gozunda

"The cases are increasing. I wish I did not have to say this, but it is going to get worse before it gets better," Tom Frieden, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told a news conference in Monrovia.

"The world has never seen an outbreak of Ebola like this. Consequently, not only are the numbers large, but we know there are many more cases than has been diagnosed and reported," he said.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0828/639824-ebola/

zetalambda

I have a fear that this is gonna get a lot worse before it gets better.

Joe Doe

that's what the WHO said...
The World Health Organization says the deadly Ebola outbreak in West Africa could infect more than 20,000 people before it is brought under control.

Wonder how much this medi trial gig would pay :0

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ceadaoin.

The British nurse who is being treated in London may have contracted the virus from a child who wasn't showing any symptoms of the disease and who had previously tested negative.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/11060412/Baby-may-have-infected-Briton-with-deadly-Ebola-virus.html