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Ebola virus outbreak

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    #2132
    Peist2007
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    gozunda wrote: »
    Btw date irrelevant - you stated ...



    In this example as in other subsequent incidences - infected individuals Were Not bedridden - Were Mobile - and Were Walking around!



    Unfortunately being in the 'first world' is no protection against unconfirmed individuals carrying Ebola coming into contact with others and whilst some of those infected may be in basic denial or just be unlucky enough not to have available / proper healtcare - contamination will happen as a result of explosive diarrhoea and projectile vomiting as in the case in the US - no need for any one to 'smear their bodily fluids around' at all :rolleyes:

    Disagreeing like you have above means you WANT people to get ebola ;)


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    #2133
    emo72
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    im gonna stock up.


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    #2134
    ceadaoin.
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    I'm not sure if this has been posted but a nurse in Paris who looked after a MSF nurse who was brought back for treatment is now suspected to have ebola. I'm surprised at this. I understand how it happened in Dallas, a local hospital that didn't have the resources and training but as far as I was aware the hospital in Paris has a specialised unit with BSL 4 facilities. Also, the patient he/she treated was declared cured on the 4th October. I presume that means that an ebola test performed on that date was negative? So the amount of virus in the blood would have been decreasing before being totally cleared. If so, and this nurse has ebola, then he/she must have been infected a few weeks ago.

    http://www.thelocal.fr/20141016/french-nurse-suspected-of-having-ebola


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    #2135
    Canis Lupus
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    gozunda wrote: »
    Btw date irrelevant - you stated ...



    In this example as in other subsequent incidences - infected individuals Were Not bedridden - Were Mobile - and Were Walking around!



    Unfortunately being in the 'first world' is no protection against unconfirmed individuals carrying Ebola coming into contact with others and whilst some of those infected may be in basic denial or just be unlucky enough not to have available / proper healtcare - contamination will happen as a result of explosive diarrhoea and projectile vomiting as in the case in the US - no need for any one to 'smear their bodily fluids around' at all :rolleyes:

    Well this was patient no1 for the US and he vomited, as per your article, as they put him into the ambulance to take him to hospital That's not what I would describe as a mobile person.

    I guess we'll have to wait and see how any further cases develop. It is worth noting however that Mr Duncans family despite living with him have at this stage showed no signs of infection and I would expect they would have been in close proximity to him including toilet and door handles and all that jazz. They do unfortunately still have some time to wait out before getting the all clear (which must of course be awful).


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    #2136
    Streetwalker
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    9000 infected now, 9 fuc king thousand. Holy sh it.


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    #2137
    My name is URL
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    Well let's hope not all of them are fucking


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    #2138
    ceadaoin.
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    Streetwalker wrote: »
    9000 infected now, 9 fuc king thousand. Holy sh it.

    It's forecasted to be 10,000 new cases a week within a matter of months. And still people think this isn't a serious situation.


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    #2139
    crannglas
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    Did anyone hear on the radio today that they have taken suspected ebola case Nigerian off plane. Where was that? I thought Dublin? Guy sneezing in shop today huge ones. I walked other side of shop lol. Chinese have right idea with masks.


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    #2140
    crannglas
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    Well let's hope not all of them are fucking

    God are they all **** king?


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    #2141
    wexie
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    crannglas wrote: »
    God are they all **** king?

    It's okay, as long as they're all ****ing eachother they won't infect any new people :cool:


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    #2142
    Creative Juices
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    crannglas wrote: »
    Did anyone hear on the radio today that they have taken suspected ebola case Nigerian off plane. Where was that? I thought Dublin? Guy sneezing in shop today huge ones. I walked other side of shop lol. Chinese have right idea with masks.

    ebola is not a virus of the respiratory system.


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    #2143
    crannglas
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    wexie wrote: »
    It's okay, as long as they're all ****ing eachother they won't infect any new people :cool:
    lol that would be some sexy time. Not just usual fluids and noises but a whole new amount. Snot spit and coughing.


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    #2144
    I am pie
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    Creative Juices wrote: »
    ebola is not a virus of the respiratory system.

    Not Dublin, Paris. Air France flight.


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    #2145
    crannglas
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭crannglas


    Creative Juices wrote: »
    ebola is not a virus of the respiratory system.
    Yeah but spread by fluids. So pardon me if I step away and give him dirty looks and strong scared face making him feel terrible.


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    #2146
    Creative Juices
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    emo72 wrote: »
    im gonna stock up.

    again? Have you not got enough in your store since H1N1, SARS, Swine Flu and the Euro collapse?


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    #2147
    Creative Juices
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    I am pie wrote: »
    Not Dublin, Paris. Air France flight.

    Huh?

    I replied to this "Guy sneezing in shop today huge ones. I walked other side of shop lol. Chinese have right idea with masks."

    I replied that ebola is not a virus of the respiratory system.


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    #2148
    crannglas
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    Creative Juices wrote: »
    Huh?

    I replied to this "Guy sneezing in shop today huge ones. I walked other side of shop lol. Chinese have right idea with masks."

    I replied that ebola is not a virus of the respiratory system.
    I think that was meant for me, telling me it was France and not Dublin they took the Nigerian off. I only caught the tail end of story.


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    #2149
    crannglas
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭crannglas


    Creative Juices wrote: »
    Huh?

    I replied to this "Guy sneezing in shop today huge ones. I walked other side of shop lol. Chinese have right idea with masks."

    I replied that ebola is not a virus of the respiratory system.
    I think that was meant for me, telling me it was France and not Dublin they took the Nigerian off. I only caught the tail end of story.


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    #2150
    Creative Juices
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    crannglas wrote: »
    I think that was meant for me, telling me it was France and not Dublin they took the Nigerian off. I only caught the tail end of story.

    I think this is meant for you

    w3.youtube.com/watch?v=i0GW0Vnr9Yc


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    #2151
    Turtwig
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    The two "aeroplanes" will give us our best indication of just how contagious this disease is. Assuming of course both carriers were infectious with ebola at the time. If almost no passengers get affected then there's little reason to worry about this disease (or a full blown outbreak). If a significant proportion of them are affected then we have a dangerous epidemic on our hand. Current research of the disease would indicate that only a few, if any, people on both planes would be infected by the virus.

    One thing I don't like in the media reporting is the emphasis that the outbreak is still spreading in Liberia, Sierra Leone but no mention of Nigeria having contained it. Now more than ever people need to be made aware of the differences on the ground between the various nations. The primary countries infected will likely see a doubling of cases every 4 weeks. People also need to know that rate isn't expected in countries where an outbreak might be just beginning.


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    #2152
    Kermit.de.frog
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    Meh, let me know when O'Bola reaches Ireland. I might wake up then.


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    #2153
    My name is URL
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    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    It's forecasted to be 10,000 new cases a week within a matter of months. And still people think this isn't a serious situation.

    To be fair I haven't heard many people say that it's not a serious situation. There's a lot of middle ground between being completely dismissive of it and freaking the fcuk out over it.


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    #2154
    daviecronin
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    Supposed to be going on a three week trip to Zambia in May next year - A charity thing. First thing we were told when we got on the team 'Don't be surprised if we don't go' Niceeeeeeeeeee.

    Still though besides that what annoys me is how people can make jokes about Ebola? Well ver 5,000 people have died and the western world can just mock it. All over facebook or twitter. Its disgusting. You don't see people mocking the 3,000 people that died in 9/11 do you? Its funny how people don't value other peoples lives from developing countries.


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    #2155
    Creative Juices
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    Turtwig wrote: »
    One thing I don't like in the media reporting is the emphasis that the outbreak is still spreading in Liberia, Sierra Leone but no mention of Nigeria having contained it. Now more than ever people need to be made aware of the differences on the ground between the various nations. The primary countries infected will likely see a doubling of cases every 4 weeks. People also need to know that rate isn't expected in countries where an outbreak might be just beginning.

    Yeah Nigeria seemed to have contained it with ease. WHO should be investigating how they accomplished that so quickly.

    Also Congo have it pretty isolated too to one small area and have successfully dealt with previous outbreaks over the past 40 years.

    Post #2056 gives more detail.


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    #2156
    Kermit.de.frog
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    To be fair I haven't heard many people say that it's not a serious situation.


    It's serious but to an extent. The disease will go on killing people after the media tires of it just like other serious diseases. I reckon it's here to stay like AIDS but for the vast, vast majority in reality it's irrelevant and won't effect them.


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    sashafierce
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    #2158
    wexie
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    daviecronin wrote: »
    Well ver 5,000 people have died and the western world can just mock it. All over facebook or twitter. Its disgusting. You don't see people mocking the 3,000 people that died in 9/11 do you? Its funny how people don't value other peoples lives from developing countries.

    Yeah but those were Americans you can't compare the situation man, you don't know what it was like, you weren't there!!! :rolleyes:


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    #2159
    Gael23
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    Why can't Liberias borders be closed with the exception of medical personnel?


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    #2160
    BlatentCheek
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    Creative Juices wrote: »
    Yeah Nigeria seemed to have contained it with ease. WHO should be investigating how they accomplished that so quickly.

    Also Congo have it pretty isolated too to one small area and have successfully dealt with previous outbreaks over the past 40 years.

    Post #2056 gives more detail.

    According to The Guardian it was because Nigeria had a strong epidemic control system in place from the end game against polio being waged there very recently.

    I suspect that a lot of harsh lessons about fighting infectious diseases with no easy cure have been forgotten in the West. Just look at the situation in Texas, why was a person who had treated someone with Ebola allowed to board a plane shortly afterwards?

    Maybe a health system focused on first world problems like boob jobs will take a little while to adapt to Ebola and re-learn basics like total quarantine.


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    #2161
    My name is URL
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    ryanf1 wrote: »
    Why can't Liberias borders be closed with the exception of medical personnel?

    Most of them have been closed since August. Those that are still 'open' have strict measures in place and have screening and testing centers set up at them

    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/28/health/ebola-outbreak-west-africa/


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