Ebola virus outbreak

mad m

Its gone so bad now that I've to fly to New york this November for a family member 50th surprise birthday party who lives in Texas, the daughter wants to wear a mask and gown on bloody plane on way over....

Streetwalker

mad m wrote: »

Its gone so bad now that I've to fly to New york this November for a family member 50th surprise birthday party who lives in Texas, the daughter wants to wear a mask and gown on bloody plane on way over....

Young lady on the Luas green line on Thursday I think it was with a face mask on.

Turtwig

Sclosages wrote: »

I was just on a packed tube in London today and realised that if ONE passenger with Ebola got on a packed tube, we would be all fooked!

That's not true.
Some people would probably be fckd. Most though wouldn't even be affected. It's not a disease that spreads easily. It's a disease that spreads and it's one that also happens to kill. Thankfully, though it's not as good at spreading as other illnesses are. Ebola requires close proximity contact to infected fluids with a high concentration of the virus. It's unlikely that the vast majority of people on a train would be exposed in such a way.

wexie

Turtwig wrote: »

Ebola requires close proximity contact to infected fluids with a high concentration of the virus. It's unlikely that the vast majority of people on a train would be exposed in such a way.

yeah that's what you think, but you've forgotten something :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjrBjdb2T8

One eyed Jack

Idiot alert -


independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/ebola-outbreak-full-scale-alert-as-aircraft-passenger-jokes-i-have-ebola-you-are-all-screwed-9786224.html

A full-scale alert was sparked when a man on a flight from the US to the Dominican Republic joked, “I have Ebola! You are all screwed.”


Passengers were ordered to stay in their seats as emergency medical teams dressed in protective suits boarded the aircraft at Punta Cana airport to confront a traveller who had been coughing during the trip from the US.

A few minutes later the man, said to be a 54-year-old from the US, was escorted from the US Airways aircraft protesting, “I ain’t from Africa. S***.”

bodhrandude

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Idiot alert -


independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/ebola-outbreak-full-scale-alert-as-aircraft-passenger-jokes-i-have-ebola-you-are-all-screwed-9786224.html

Could you put up the link proper, cheers.

bodhrandude

Found it. http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/ebola-outbreak-full-scale-alert-as-aircraft-passenger-jokes-i-have-ebola-you-are-all-screwed-9786224.html

One eyed Jack

bodhrandude wrote: »

Could you put up the link proper, cheers.

Apologies for that, it's due to me being a new user on the site that I can't post proper links yet. It should be available on the Independent.co.uk website.

wexie

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Idiot alert -


independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/ebola-outbreak-full-scale-alert-as-aircraft-passenger-jokes-i-have-ebola-you-are-all-screwed-9786224.html

“He will be returned to the United States, where he will be submitted to another rigorous check,“

For this kinda carry on they should bring out the 'special gloves' and 'big hand Hank' for a full cavity search....to be on the safe side like.

ceadaoin.

Turtwig wrote: »

That's not true.
Some people would probably be fckd. Most though wouldn't even be affected. It's not a disease that spreads easily. It's a disease that spreads and it's one that also happens to kill. Thankfully, though it's not as good at spreading as other illnesses are. Ebola requires close proximity contact to infected fluids with a high concentration of the virus. It's unlikely that the vast majority of people on a train would be exposed in such a way.

Again, on the CDC website 'close contact' is defined as being within 3 feet of an infected individual, touching or not. On a packed tube train there would be plenty of people within three feet of one another. If one of those people had ebola and was symptomatic then a few people nearby would be at risk, not the whole train obviously.

It might not be as likely to transmit that way over touching bodily fluids, but it's a possibility that people seem to be ignoring.

wexie

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Again, on the CDC website 'close contact' is defined as being within 3 feet of an infected individual, touching or not. On a packed tube train there would be plenty of people within three feet of one another. If one of those people had ebola and was symptomatic then a few people nearby would be at risk, not the whole train obviously.

It might not be as likely to transmit that way over touching bodily fluids, but it's a possibility that people seem to be ignoring.

Question is, if 'a few people' on a packed tube were infected, quite how quickly would that lead to a full scale outbreak?

ceadaoin.

wexie wrote: »

Question is, if 'a few people' on a packed tube were infected, quite how quickly would that lead to a full scale outbreak?

Well assuming the person who infected the others was diagnosed before anyone else started showing symptoms, then hopefully they would be able to trace those who were in the tube carriage and isolate them before they could infect anyone else.

If that didn't happen then who knows if that would lead to a full scale outbreak. There would certainly be a high chance of many more infections but there are so many variables.

gozunda

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Idiot alert -


independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/ebola-outbreak-full-scale-alert-as-aircraft-passenger-jokes-i-have-ebola-you-are-all-screwed-9786224.html

That was from 9th of October ... Video of the incident here

bodhrandude

gozunda wrote: »

That was from 9th of October ... Video of the incident here

Sorry never realised, still if you were on that plane and you had an important appointment, you wouldn't be impressed at all with that carry on, its like idiots joking to airline staff or security that they have a bomb.

josip

What an example of everything that is wrong with that country.
Knee jerk reaction of an airline to a fairly mundane joke, it's way less serious than the, "be careful with that, I have a bomb in there".
Officialdom only brought on the hazmat guys to "teach Johnny passenger a lesson"
If they genuinely thought he had ebola, why didn't they evacuate the plane before he was escorted off? What if he'd bumped into another passenger on the way out?
Did they decontaminate the aircraft afterwards?
Did they establish a contact list for all the people he may have "infected"?

But they let front line ebola nurses make it up as they go along, don't provide the proper gear and let them travel on mass transit systems afterwards. And then try to claim they have an advanced health care system?

What a stupid, stupid bureaucracy.

My name is URL

josip wrote: »

What an example of everything that is wrong with that country.
Knee jerk reaction of an airline to a fairly mundane joke, it's way less serious than the, "be careful with that, I have a bomb in there".
Officialdom only brought on the hazmat guys to "teach Johnny passenger a lesson"
If they genuinely thought he had ebola, why didn't they evacuate the plane before he was escorted off? What if he'd bumped into another passenger on the way out?
Did they decontaminate the aircraft afterwards?
Did they establish a contact list for all the people he may have "infected"?

But they let front line ebola nurses make it up as they go along, don't provide the proper gear and let them travel on mass transit systems afterwards. And then try to claim they have an advanced health care system?

What a stupid, stupid bureaucracy.

It's nothing compared to what officials in the Czech Republic did to an Ghanian dude the other day at a train station

They basically wrapped him in a bin bag and wheeled him out to an ambulance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI6dcP__56g

http://accrareport.com/africa-news/ghanaian-suspected-of-carrying-ebola-wrapped-in-plastic-after-czech-police-seal-off-rail-station-video/

WakeUp

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Again, on the CDC website 'close contact' is defined as being within 3 feet of an infected individual, touching or not. On a packed tube train there would be plenty of people within three feet of one another. If one of those people had ebola and was symptomatic then a few people nearby would be at risk, not the whole train obviously.

It might not be as likely to transmit that way over touching bodily fluids, but it's a possibility that people seem to be ignoring.

there are a number of things being ignored right now either through sheer incompetent perhaps even criminally negligent stupidity and behaviour or political correctness. like refusing to lock down west African airspace and restrict the movement of people from areas riddled from this virus . because apparently that will make it more likely that people will try leave the country. even though a number of countries some in Africa have already done this. and there won't be any planes to get here on. but it still more likely because that's what they say. this keeps going on it's current trajectory and there will be little choice but to lock the place down. had this been in place Duncan wouldn't have brought the virus to the states. to think people in those countries who might be or fear they might become sick won't try to leave and seek entry into countries here in the west is naive in the extreme. because they will . so take the planes out of the sky until this is brought under control and lock it down. it's common sense. seems to be lacking all over the shop. sry about the source of this link I know though the content is worth posting...
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Thousands of UK troops would be sent to Sierra Leone to enforce a military lockdown under radical plans to defeat ebola being considered by Britain’s most senior Army officer.

General Sir Nick Carter is leading a review of the UK’s response to the virus, and could use 3,000 British soldiers to impose a blockade and restrict human movement in the African country.

Sir Nick, the Chief of the General Staff, will advise Ministers on proposals, including an increase in troop numbers and using Royal Navy ships to patrol its coastal waters.

But defence sources disclosed last night that options to be considered by Sir Nick go much further and include UK troops deploying to towns and villages deep inside Sierra Leone.

A source said: ‘From a military perspective ebola is like a biological warfare attack and should be countered accordingly. There needs to be a clampdown on human movement inside Sierra Leone and possibly to and from the country between now and late 2015 when it is hoped that an antidote will have been developed.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2798713/3-000-uk-troops-germ-warfare-style-ebola-blockade-plan-sierra-leone.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

gozunda

Streetwalker wrote: »

That really is incredible. What the hell is going on with these people being allowed to travel on mass transit systems, it's almost like they want to spread the virus.

From a report on the Ebola outbreak in West Africa

http://news.yahoo.com/ebola-outbreak-why-important-patient-zero-152143370.html

The first case of Ebola in Nigeria started in Liberia. A man who had a fever and was under observation for the illness at a hospital in Monrovia decided to leave, even though doctors asked him to stay. On July 20, he flew by commercial airline from Liberia to Ghana, from Ghana to Togo and finally from Togo to Nigeria, according toan Oct. 3 report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The man potentially exposed 72 people at the Nigerian airport and hospital, and died five days later, the report found. But Nigerian officials were largely able to contain the virus, by establishing an Ebola Incident Management Center supported by the state and federal Nigerian government in coordination with international partners. The center helped rapidly coordinate the response and take actions such as contacting people who had interacted with the man, isolating people with viral symptoms and decontaminating places the man had visited, the report found. As of Oct. 8, Nigeria had 20 cases of Ebola and eight deaths, the CDC reported.

Ebola Screeners wanted $19 per hour :eek:

(NYpost claims 19 per hr )


would you work at an airport screening people for Disease :cool:

EMT (All levels) - Must be Nationally Registered!


AngelStaffing Inc. has immediate needs for EMT's at all major internationalairports. We will be conducting Ebola screenings. If interestedplease apply online at https://agencyrecruiting.apihealthcare.com... select first time applicant. We are starting in the followinglocations:

NewYork John F. Kennedy International Airport

NewarkLiberty International Airport

WashingtonDulles International Airport

ChicagoOHare International Airport

Hartsfield-JacksonAtlanta International Airport


http://nypost.com/2014/10/18/airports-now-hiring-medics-for-ebola-screening/

wexie

Jake1 wrote: »

Ebola Screeners wanted $19 per hour :eek:

(NYpost claims 19 per hr )


would you work at an airport screening people for Disease :cool:

EMT (All levels) - Must be Nationally Registered!


AngelStaffing Inc. has immediate needs for EMT's at all major internationalairports. We will be conducting Ebola screenings. If interestedplease apply online at https://agencyrecruiting.apihealthcare.com... select first time applicant. We are starting in the followinglocations:

NewYork John F. Kennedy International Airport

NewarkLiberty International Airport

WashingtonDulles International Airport

ChicagoOHare International Airport

Hartsfield-JacksonAtlanta International Airport


http://nypost.com/2014/10/18/airports-now-hiring-medics-for-ebola-screening/

I wonder do they offer medical benefits :P

(I'll get me coat)

wexie

wexie wrote: »

I wonder do they offer medical benefits :P

(I'll get me coat)

Obamacare

ceadaoin.

The British nurse who was flown back to London to be treated for ebola has gone back to Sierra Leone now that he has recovered. Pretty amazing.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/19/will-pooley-ebola-returns-to-sierra-leone

The British nurse who survived Ebola has flown back to Sierra Leone expressing fears that the world will return to indifference about the plight of Africans when the crisis abates.

Will Pooley is expected to touch down in Freetown on Sunday evening and will resume work on Monday in an Ebola isolation unit run by a team backed by three NHS trusts and a London university.

He said he “can’t see anything changing” in attitudes towards Africa, where diseases such as malaria have already killed 70 times more people than Ebola this year.

The Suffolk-born nurse said it had been an easy decision to return despite the worries of his family and friends. He has said he cannot stand “idly by” and watch more die. “I chose to go before and it was the right thing to do then and it’s still the right thing to do now.”

Although it is widely assumed that a person cannot contract Ebola twice, this is not scientifically proven and Pooley has been warned that he still faces a risk. “They have told me I very likely have immunity, at least for the near future, to this strain of Ebola. I have also been told it’s a possibility that I don’t, so I will just have to act as if I don’t,” he told the Guardian.

Also, the Spanish nurse,Teresa Romero, has apparently been cleared of ebola now. She suffered organ failure as a result of her infection though so she still has a long road to full recovery.

TheBeardedLady

ceadaoin. wrote: »

The British nurse who was flown back to London to be treated for ebola has gone back to Sierra Leone now that he has recovered. Pretty amazing.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/19/will-pooley-ebola-returns-to-sierra-leone



Also, the Spanish nurse,Teresa Romero, has apparently been cleared of ebola now. She suffered organ failure as a result of her infection though so she still has a long road to full recovery.

Yes, according to the Spanish news, she has to get a second test to confirm she's all clear but it's looking good. Good news.

cml387

TheBeardedLady wrote: »

Yes, according to the Spanish news, she has to get a second test to confirm she's all clear but it's looking good. Good news.

It won't be "Breaking News" on Sky News though I'll bet.

Joe Doe

Spain, Norway and Luxembourg have together donated less money to the global fight against Ebola than Ikea, according to the United Nations.

It said the three European countries have committed less than €3.2m, in comparison to a donation of €5.3m from the Swedish furniture seller. Britain has given €157m and Ireland €16m.

16m/4.5m folks = e8.50ea : not bad....
157m/60m folks = e3.82ea

Turtwig

Spain are financially in a bad place so you could maybe excuse them. Not sure if you could do so for Norway or Luxemburg.

I suppose, one thing to consider is whether the monetary value is a representative measure of aid contributed.

Canis Lupus

Joe Doe wrote: »

Spain, Norway and Luxembourg have together donated less money to the global fight against Ebola than Ikea, according to the United Nations.

It said the three European countries have committed less than €3.2m, in comparison to a donation of €5.3m from the Swedish furniture seller. Britain has given €157m and Ireland €16m.

16m/4.5m folks = e8.50ea : not bad....
157m/60m folks = e3.82ea

Google indicates that Norway has donated up to 254 million NOK to date which is roughly 30mill euro.

WakeUp

I think we need more of this. because believing we understand the ins and outs of what is going on and somehow believing it will just run its course like previous times doesnt help anyone. how could it. more realism is required regardless of how unpalatable it might be or sound and less overweening soundbites statements and attitudes. that doesnt help anyone either not with something like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkMKUa0sxBQ

Streetwalker

cml387 wrote: »

It won't be "Breaking News" on Sky News though I'll bet.

It was last night actually.

Wetbench4

I'm really hoping you become immune if you've survived a dose of ebola. We're in big trouble if not