Ebola virus outbreak

Akrasia

ceadaoin. wrote: »

The WHO have reported that the official number of cases in west Africa is up to 13,703 now.

The figure was only 10,100 3 or 4 days ago. Are they including previously unverified cases in these new figures, or have there been 3000 new infections since the weekend?

littlemac1980

Akrasia wrote: »

The figure was only 10,100 3 or 4 days ago. Are they including previously unverified cases in these new figures, or have there been 3000 new infections since the weekend?

I expect that the collection and collation of data isn't a regular daily occurrence.

It's likely that the figures are accurate as per completed reports at the date of publication, but that there may be delays obtaining reports from remoter locations or particularly problematic areas, and that those updates when they are received cause significant jumps once added to the figures.

ceadaoin.

Akrasia wrote: »

The figure was only 10,100 3 or 4 days ago. Are they including previously unverified cases in these new figures, or have there been 3000 new infections since the weekend?

From the WHO twitter account:


"Dr Aylward on jump in today's #Ebola data: There was under-reporting but data are being caught up now"

Beano

ectoraige wrote: »

I see the HSE is carrying out an ebola readiness test today at the Mater.



Perhaps we should do the same here, and make some wildly panicked and ill-informed speculative posts, drowning out the occasional reasoned responses?

is that not what has been happening here?

Egginacup

Sclosages wrote: »

http://nypost.com/2014/10/29/ebola-doctor-lied-about-his-nyc-travels-police/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPFacebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow

So it seems the doctor was less than truthful about his activities in NY. Clearly he had no concern for anyone he came in contact with during his travels! Git.

More lies from the NYPost.

Spencer didn't go bowling. He checked his temperature on Oct 23, it was slightly elevated at 100.3. He immediately went into isolation. At no time did he go bowling with a temperature of 103 (falsely reported). But sure screw the facts when you want to frighten the bejaysus out of everyone.

And just look at all those fuckin' eejits scrubbing down that bowling alley.

Shower of alarmist and gullible tits.

Sclosages

Egginacup wrote: »

More lies from the NYPost.

Spencer didn't go bowling. He checked his temperature on Oct 23, it was slightly elevated at 100.3. He immediately went into isolation. At no time did he go bowling with a temperature of 103 (falsely reported). But sure screw the facts when you want to frighten the bejaysus out of everyone.

And just look at all those fuckin' eejits scrubbing down that bowling alley.

Shower of alarmist and gullible tits.

They didn't say he did these things with a fever. They said he did them and denied having done anything.

Grayson

Egginacup wrote: »

More lies from the NYPost.

Spencer didn't go bowling. He checked his temperature on Oct 23, it was slightly elevated at 100.3. He immediately went into isolation. At no time did he go bowling with a temperature of 103 (falsely reported). But sure screw the facts when you want to frighten the bejaysus out of everyone.

And just look at all those fuckin' eejits scrubbing down that bowling alley.

Shower of alarmist and gullible tits.

Did you see the daily show about it?

they flashed up a photo of him and said that 100.3 might just be because he's hot

ceadaoin.

Egginacup wrote: »

More lies from the NYPost.

Spencer didn't go bowling. He checked his temperature on Oct 23, it was slightly elevated at 100.3. He immediately went into isolation. At no time did he go bowling with a temperature of 103 (falsely reported). But sure screw the facts when you want to frighten the bejaysus out of everyone.

And just look at all those fuckin' eejits scrubbing down that bowling alley.

Shower of alarmist and gullible tits.

He did go bowling. No one has said he went bowling when he had a fever have they? I haven't seen that reported anywhere. It appears he started experiencing minor symptoms on October 21 and he went bowling the next day. I'm pretty sure he won't have infected anyone in the bowling alley but what harm is cleaning it going to do? I'm sure it needed a good scrub anyway!

littlemac1980

littlemac1980 wrote: »

Here's a useful map applet that allows you to scroll through the timeline of the reported cases Ebola Outbreak.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-31/ebola-timeline-deadliest-outbreak/5639060

You'll see that the shocking rate at which the number of infected is growing.

From:

17.04.2014 - 18.05.2014 - the number of cases grew from 249 to 305.

18.05.2014 - 16.06.2014 - 305 to 666

16.06.2014 - 12.07.2014 - 666 to 967

12.07.2014. - 11.08.2014 - 967 to 1977

11.08.2014 - 07.09.2014 - 1977 to 4392

07.09.2014 - 01.10.2014 - 4392 to 7492.

The most recent figure of 13,703 appears largely in line with the trend of increase in cases to date.

02.10.2014 - 29.10.2014 7492 to 13,703.

= 6,211 new cases in 28 days

= 221.8 new cases per day.

littlemac1980

littlemac1980 wrote: »

Here's a useful map applet that allows you to scroll through the timeline of the reported cases Ebola Outbreak.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-31/ebola-timeline-deadliest-outbreak/5639060

You'll see that the shocking rate at which the number of infected is growing.

From:

17.04.2014 - 18.05.2014 - the number of cases grew from 249 to 305.

18.05.2014 - 16.06.2014 - 305 to 666

16.06.2014 - 12.07.2014 - 666 to 967

12.07.2014. - 11.08.2014 - 967 to 1977

11.08.2014 - 07.09.2014 - 1977 to 4392

07.09.2014 - 01.10.2014 - 4392 to 7492.

The most recent figure of 13,703 appears largely in line with the trend of increase in cases to date.

02.10.2014 - 29.10.2014 7492 to 13,703.

= 6,211 new cases in 28 days

= 221.8 new cases per day.

And here's my previous cases per day analysis.

littlemac1980 wrote: »

Analysing the above figures a little more shows us the corresponding increase in the daily rate of infection over those time periods.

Of course it must be borne in mind - that the above figures represent the characteristics of contagion of the disease at an early stage and may not be absolutely accurate in terms of demonstrating the "exponent" of increase.

Also it must be considered a likely factor that the number of new cases may have artificially jumped/or stalled in certain periods due to the fact that "new cases" really means "new cases detected" and would be influenced by greater or lesser efforts to detect.

The accuracy of the figures is obviously limited by both the limited range of data available and the stage at which the contagion is at (very early stage), it would obviously be much better to have a number of years data of this strain and the numbers of people affected to give more accurate figures, nevertheless the rate of growth is a cause for concern should a serious increase in efforts to contain this virus and stall or reverse the spread not be implemented ASAP.

17.04.2014 - 18.05.2014 - 31 days - 56 new cases - 1.8 new cases per day.

18.05.2014 - 16.06.2014 - 29 days - 361 new cases - 12.45 new cases per day.

16.06.2014 - 12.07.2014 - 26 days - 301 new cases - 11.58 new cases per day.

12.07.2014. - 11.08.2014 - 30 days - 1010 new cases - 33.67 new cases per day.

11.08.2014 - 07.09.2014 - 27 days - 2415 new cases - 89.44 new cases per day.

07.09.2014 - 01.10.2014 - 24 days - 3100 new cases - 129.17 new cases per day.

bodhrandude

ceadaoin. wrote: »

The WHO have reported that the official number of cases in west Africa is up to 13,703 now.

The Who are doing press conferences for Ebola now, looking forward to their gig in 26th November at the O2. :pac:

Dr Turk Turkelton

bodhrandude wrote: »

The Who are doing press conferences for Ebola now, looking forward to their gig in 26th November at the O2. :pac:

I'm sure Bono and Sir Bob will have to get a word in as well!

323

bodhrandude wrote: »

The Who are doing press conferences for Ebola now, looking forward to their gig in 26th November at the O2. :pac:

Sorry if off thread.
Was disappointed would not be able to make that concert, as even with all the fuss about Ebola I'm traveling to Africa today and will not be home until a couple of days after the concert dates.
Heard on the radio yesterday the WHO concerts, Dublin & Belfast have been rescheduled to next summer, might make it next year.

Scannal

So when do we think this ebola stuff will be under control?

gozunda

Looks like the quantantine issue is not over yet.

http://m.rte.ie/news/2014/1030/655744-ebola/

What is of interest at the moment is the different treatment of military and non military personnel working in ebola effected areas. The US also appears to be using bases in other countries eg Italy for their quarantine purposes.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6054708

http://fox6now.com/2014/10/29/approved-21-day-quarantine-for-all-military-personnel-serving-in-ebola-stricken-areas-of-west-africa/

Sclosages

http://nypost.com/2014/10/29/cdc-admits-droplets-from-a-sneeze-could-spread-ebola/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPFacebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow

So - you can catch Ebola from a sneeze.

Turtwig

So CDC's "admits" something but the article doesn't even have a direct source or comment from them. Porkies!

Let's contrast things for a moment. If this was a polio outbreak. Everyone in Thomas Duncan's family would have contracted the virus. Same too for the other affected ebola patients in the US. That is an clear example of now crappy ebola is at infecting people. That doesn't mean ebola won't infect people.

The scaremongering in the US media is pathetic.

Rotunda Shill

Sclosages wrote: »

http://nypost.com/2014/10/29/cdc-admits-droplets-from-a-sneeze-could-spread-ebola/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPFacebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow

So - you can catch Ebola from a sneeze.

Ebola goes airborne IN COLD WEATHER – and the US Government has known this fact since 1995...

QUOTE:

After successfully exposing monkeys to airborne Ebola, which “caused a rapidly fatal disease in 4-5 days,” scientists with the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) concluded Ebola can spread through air but likely hasn’t in Equatorial Africa because the region is too warm, with temperatures rarely dropping below 65°F.

“We… demonstrated aerosol transmission of Ebola virus at lower temperature and humidity than that normally present in sub-Saharan Africa,” the 1995 study entitled Lethal Experimental Infections of Rhesus Monkeys by Aerosolized Ebola Virus reported. “Ebola virus sensitivity to the high temperatures and humidity in the thatched, mud, and wattle huts shared by infected family members in southern Sudan and northern Zaire may have been a factor limiting aerosol transmission of Ebola virus in the African epidemics.”

“Both elevated temperature and relative humidity have been shown to reduce the aerosol stability of viruses.”

http://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/4/10/2115/pdf

ceadaoin.

Turtwig wrote: »

So CDC's "admits" something but the article doesn't even have a direct source or comment from them. Porkies!

Let's contrast things for a moment. If this was a polio outbreak. Everyone in Thomas Duncan's family would have contracted the virus. Same too for the other affected ebola patients in the US. That is an clear example of now crappy ebola is at infecting people. That doesn't mean ebola won't infect people.

The scaremongering in the US media is pathetic.

I posted a link the other day to a new CDC leaflet detailing that ebola is spread through droplets, including sneezes. That document has now been taken down from their website for 'updating' apparently

Rotunda Shill

Not sure if this has been posted.

This is frightening information taken directly from the US Governments very own guidelines. Ebola is a BSL-4 Virus.

Go to this link and click on TAB 10 to read the description of what a biohazard saftey level 4 lab is defined as. Link to CDC website: -

http://www.cdc.gov/training/quicklearns/biosafety/

Or just read this:

"BSL-4 builds upon the containment requirements of BSL-3 and is the highest level of biological safety. There are a small number of BSL-4 labs in the United States and around the world. The microbes in a BSL-4 lab are dangerous and exotic, posing a high risk of aerosol-transmitted infections. Infections caused by these microbes are frequently fatal and without treatment or vaccines. Two examples of microbes worked with in a BSL-4 laboratory include Ebola and Marburg viruses."

Two take away points:
1 - aerosol-transmitted infections
2 - Ebola and Marburg viruses.

There are only 4 BSC -4 labs in the United States that sre capable of managing Ebola it is that dangerous, I have circled them in red, compared to the amount of other labs. Total number of BSC -4 labs in the United States

So Ebola is spread through cold air. The CDC talking heads and all mainstream newscasters are not disclosing the truth.

US President: "Ebola is not spread through the air like the flu".
US President: "You cannot get it from casual contact like sitting next to someone on a bus"

I would put more trust in the junkies that ride the red line Luas than I would put in the US Government its puppet Mainstream media.

Akrasia

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

Not sure if this has been posted.

This is frightening information taken directly from the US Governments very own guidelines. Ebola is a BSL-4 Virus.

Go to this link and click on TAB 10 to read the description of what a biohazard saftey level 4 lab is defined as. Link to CDC website: -

http://www.cdc.gov/training/quicklearns/biosafety/

Or just read this:

"BSL-4 builds upon the containment requirements of BSL-3 and is the highest level of biological safety. There are a small number of BSL-4 labs in the United States and around the world. The microbes in a BSL-4 lab are dangerous and exotic, posing a high risk of aerosol-transmitted infections. Infections caused by these microbes are frequently fatal and without treatment or vaccines. Two examples of microbes worked with in a BSL-4 laboratory include Ebola and Marburg viruses."

Two take away points:
1 - aerosol-transmitted infections
2 - Ebola and Marburg viruses.

There are only 4 BSC -4 labs in the United States that sre capable of managing Ebola it is that dangerous, I have circled them in red, compared to the amount of other labs. Total number of BSC -4 labs in the United States

So Ebola is spread through cold air. The CDC talking heads and all mainstream newscasters are not disclosing the truth.

US President: "Ebola is not spread through the air like the flu".
US President: "You cannot get it from casual contact like sitting next to someone on a bus"

I would put more trust in the junkies that ride the red line Luas than I would put in the US Government its puppet Mainstream media.

Feck off back to the conspiracy theory forum please.

If the CDC knew that ebola was 'airborn' they would come out and say it. They wouldn't bury that information but leave clues in obscure sections of obscure reports for feck sake.

Conspiracy theorists know what the picture they want is before they start 'joining the dots', and you can always find anomalies that you can 'question' if you look hard enough and are prepared to stretch the meaning of phrases and words far enough.

Rotunda Shill

Akrasia wrote: »

Feck off back to the conspiracy theory forum please.

If the CDC knew that ebola was 'airborn' they would come out and say it. They wouldn't bury that information but leave clues in obscure sections of obscure reports for feck sake.

Conspiracy theorists know what the picture they want is before they start 'joining the dots', and you can always find anomalies that you can 'question' if you look hard enough and are prepared to stretch the meaning of phrases and words far enough.

There is no conspiracy in this just blatant dirty lies and disinformation from the US Government. What have you got to say about Obama's speech? The CDC have already admitted that it can be airborne which contradicts earlier official guidelines.

In other news: The plot thickens.

Anti-quarantine nurse Hickox was trained as an intelligence officer by the CDC and her defense lawyer is known to the Whitehouse.

There was always something very odd about this woman from the beginning. She was interviewed by a MSM press team at her house yesterday, a press microphone held right up to her face. If this was reality Press would have kept a mile away from her. No doubt she is 100% free of Ebola and is professionally trained but acting like a spoiled child to add a new "twist" for this whole Ebola saga.

Apparently her social media site was recently doctored to hide her true identity and her LinkedIn URL scrubbed.

This is all a part of another US Government Psych Opps to condition the public into the demand for the acceptance of mandatory quarantine / FEMA / Isolation / death camps.

http://sonsoflibertymedia.com/2014/10/quarantined-nurse-kaci-hickox-misled-public-works-cdc-attorney-white-house-visitor-tied-al-Sharpton/

http://www.uta.edu/utamagazine/archive-issues/2010-13/2012/07/passion-practicality-drive-nursing-graduate/

Akrasia

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

There is no conspiracy in this just blatant dirty lies and disinformation from the US Government. What have you got to say about Obama's speech?

In other news: The plot thickens.

Anti-quarantine nurse Hickox was trained as an intelligence officer by the CDC and her defense lawyer is known to the Whitehouse.

There was something suspicious of this woman from the beginning. She was interviewed by a MSM press team at her house yesterday, microphone held right up to her face. If this was reality Press would have kept away from her. No doubt she is 100% free of Ebola and is professionally trained but acting like a spoiled child to add a new "twist" for the MSM in this whole Ebola saga.

Apparently her social media site was recently doctored to hide her true identity and her LinkedIn URL scrubbed.

This is all a part of another US Government Psych Opps to condition the public into the demand for the acceptance of mandatory quarantine / FEMA / Isolation / death camps.

http://sonsoflibertymedia.com/2014/10/quarantined-nurse-kaci-hickox-misled-public-works-cdc-attorney-white-house-visitor-tied-al-Sharpton/

http://www.uta.edu/utamagazine/archive-issues/2010-13/2012/07/passion-practicality-drive-nursing-graduate/

'there's no conspiracy here' followed by a whole load of CT BS

FEMA Death camps??? Again, please feck off back to the CT forums where you can re-inforce each other's mental beliefs without bothering the rest of us

Rotunda Shill

Akrasia wrote: »

'there's no conspiracy here' followed by a whole load of CT BS

FEMA Death camps??? Again, please feck off back to the CT forums where you can re-inforce each other's mental beliefs without bothering the rest of us

Its no longer conspiracy and has been well documented by several posters.

So you believe and trust every thing the US Government tells you?

The same Government that has spent the last five years arming Jihad terrorists to the teeth right across the middle east ?

The same Government that then creates the police state at home to protect the country from the very terrorists that they have created?

The same Government that has been blatantly sloppy at allowing Ebola to take off across the united states with haphazard protocols, allowing every Tom Dick and Harry to return from contaminated hot spots.

Akrasia

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

Its no longer conspiracy and has been well documented by several posters.

So you believe and trust every thing the US Government tells you?

The same Government that has spent the last five years arming Jihad terrorists to the teeth right across the middle east ?

The same Government that then creates the police state at home to protect the country from the very terrorists that they have created?

The same Government that has been blatantly sloppy at allowing Ebola to take off across the united states with haphazard protocols, allowing every Tom Dick and Harry to return from contaminated hot spots.

CT forum ==> http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=576

Creative Juices

This thread really transformed from pure hype and panic into considered and informational discussion but I see it seems to have gone off the rails again.

Rotunda Shill

Creative Juices wrote: »

This thread really transformed from pure hype and panic into considered and informational discussion but I see it seems to have gone off the rails again.

It has its fair share of trolls and shills that are only interested in railroading the topic rather than discussing it.

Anything that is not officially mentioned by the US Government itself or that is not published in the mainstream media is considered a conspiracy.

Akrasia

No, anyone who thinks that the centers for disease control are involved in a plot to set up death camps is a CT nutter. The CDC are staffed by well meaning people who are focused entirely on preventing the spread of contageous disease.

There is no (non nutter) reason why the CDC would bury information about the transmission methods of Ebola. If Ebola actually was airborn, and the CDC was covering this up, (lets pretend that this is even possible) it would be one way to guarantee that the current crisis becomes a global pandemic, and only conspiracy theory saddos think that there is an agenda to infect the planet with this disease.

Get a life please or stick to the CT forum which is the designated boards.ie isolation/death camp for your nonsense ideas.

Also, I've reported your post for that link which is blatantly anti-semitic

Rotunda Shill

Akrasia wrote: »

No, anyone who thinks that the centers for disease control are involved in a plot to set up death camps is a CT nutter. The CDC are staffed by well meaning people who are focused entirely on preventing the spread of contageous disease.

You omitted the word Indirectly

FOX NEWS: “I think they should set up special centers for just Ebola in each state,” Dash said. “They shouldn’t be letting people go into regular hospitals, where it could be spread.”

http://youtu.be/gOXZMwdQSWI

Where would a person most likely pick up an infectious disease?

These infectious disease quarantine camps will eventually be cesspits for contacting Ebola.

ProfessorPlum

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

You omitted the word Indirectly

FOX NEWS: “I think they should set up special centers for just Ebola in each state,” Dash said. “They shouldn’t be letting people go into regular hospitals, where it could be spread.”



These infectious disease quarantine camps will eventually be cesspits for contacting Ebola.

Yes. We should all start eating colloidal silver and smearing ourselves with essential oils to treat ebola. Ffs do you really believe this sh1t?

And Fox News is only marginally better (along with the recently oft quoted NY Post which is the US equivalent of the Daily Mail)