Mispronunciation/ Poor grammar that annoys you?

dxhound2005

garancafan wrote: »

Quote:
Originally Posted by garancafan View Post
As a denizen of Templeogue myself, I would be interested to know if that is "are" the plural of "be" or "are" 100 square meters.

The first rhymes with "bar", the second with "bare"

That is what I thought and I was going to respond to the other poster. But I checked the pronunciation in my Chambers dictionary and both are pronounced the same according to that, to rhyme with bar. But there could be more than one accepted pronunciation.

Are, noun. The unit of the metric land measure, 100 sq m. [French from Latin Area, a site, space, court].

Area has an accent over the first A.

garancafan

Er.. Chambers is Scottish.:)

BigBrownBear

I hate people who can't talk proper

kingchess

greenflash wrote: »

What gets to me is when people misuse a word to make themselves sound more intelligent.

Current in vogue malapropism is 'disinterested' instead of uninterested.

Disinterested means someone has no business in being part of the situation and should not be involved. Uninterested means they simply could not be arsed doing what they're supposed to be doing.

Commonly, footballers are accused of being disinterested in matches they are playing, but that's wrong because they are footballers and supposed to be there. A sea lion balancing a ball on its nose in the middle if the pitch would be a disinterested party.

That and the 99.9% of people in Ireland who say "Can I get..." Instead of "Can I have..," when ordering something (usually a roll or sandwich) in a shop. No you cannot 'get' it because you don't work in the shop. The staff will get it for you, bell ends.

when I was a small boy and asked my mother -can I have a sweet,she would reply-you can but you may not-so now, when I am in a shop I usually say"may I have..."

Digital Solitude

Irish Stones wrote: »

The first photo was taken Manorhamilton, co. Leitrim, in 2006.

The Slevins around Manorhamilton are a bunch of tools anyways...

Sinfonia

Irish Stones wrote: »

But what might annoy me, as an Italian, is the improper use of Italian words in English sentences.
"Lasagna" is top of the list. We never use that word, because is the singular version of "Lasagne". Everybody always eats more than one lasagna, so the correct term is "lasagne".
"Bravo" is second in the list, because in English it is used regardless of the of number of persons who receive the approval or their gender.
There are more, but I don't want to annoy you, after all this thread was intended for English grammar

What I find funny is that it's not even a standard misuse, they're all mixed up!
Lasagna (fem. sing.)
Bravo (masc. sing.)
Barista (fem. sing.)
Panini (masc. pl.)

Ring4Fea

Zaftig. Mae West was Zaftig. "Joan" from Mad Men is zaftig. If you have a waist you might be zaftig. Neither Penelope Cruz after a slice of sacher torte nor Rebel Wilson under any circumstances are zaftig.

Ann Landers

mike_ie wrote: »

Is it just me, or does anybody else have any mispronunciation or grammar pet hate that drives them up the wall?

No, nobody else does, you're special. :pac:;)

Ann Landers

BNMC wrote: »

Loose/lose.

I do this all the time even though I know the difference. It seems to be a slightly dyslexic thing.

Ann Landers

I know someone who pronounces 'advertisement' like the is in the middle is pronounced like 'is' as in "Mary is going to the shop".

Ann Landers

RayM wrote: »

"your such a looser"

I don't understand why so many adults basically have sub-primary school levels of literacy. If you can't tell the difference between 'have' and 'of' you should be ashamed of yourself.

Like I posted above, I often write loose instead of lose and vice versa even though I do know the difference. It's something my brain just seems to get confused on for some reason.

And I try not to get sanctimonious on grammar and spelling like many do because I've never known a grammar correcter who hasn't fúcked up themselves at some stage. Like, never. In fact, the most vocal correcters often get things wrong, I find.

In fact, I've just noticed an enthusiastic poster on this thread make a very basic grammar error in another thread. And this poster has made the mistake twice in one post so it's not a typo. Doesn't matter who it is, just made me smile. :pac:

HeidiHeidi

Ann Landers wrote: »

I know someone who pronounces 'advertisement' like the is in the middle is pronounced like 'is' as in "Mary is going to the shop".

Is he/she on a commit-TEE? They usually go together!

Ring4Fea

/now crushing on heidi heidi by dint of her Shaolin Mastery of Joke Fu

endacl

Treads about spelling annoy me.

dxhound2005

endacl wrote: »

Treads about spelling annoy me.

This one isn't about spelling.

dxhound2005

Ann Landers wrote: »

I know someone who pronounces 'advertisement' like the is in the middle is pronounced like 'is' as in "Mary is going to the shop".

Nothing wrong with that. It is one of the accepted standard pronunciations.

Ann Landers

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Nothing wrong with that. It is one of the accepted standard pronunciations.

See, this is a good example of why many of these annoyances are actually grand, I never knew that was an accepted pronunciation!

Rubberchikken

don't have a problem with any of it.
do have a problem with people who find fault in others. no point to it really.

dxhound2005

Ann Landers wrote: »

See, this is a good example of why many of these annoyances are actually grand, I never knew that was an accepted pronunciation!

There are certainly hundreds, maybe thousands of words with more than one accepted standard pronunciation. I don't regard it as any sort of annoyance. They regularly make their way on to these sorts of threads (and there have been many of these threads) with some people insisting that their preferred form is the only correct one. Scone anyone?

Even worse in other threads some people tried to insist that other people don't know how to pronounce their own family name e.g. Cahill, Gallagher, by saying only the Irish form is acceptable.

cj maxx

I and my parents pronounce digital as digical ,, drives 'herself' mad !
I Don't think its too bad atall.

periodictable

Always fascinated by the American pronunciation of "nuclear". To me it should be "noo-cle-ar". They tend to say "new-klar".
The other one is "remuneration" vs "renumeration".

dxhound2005

cjmc wrote: »

I and my parents pronounce digital as digical ,, drives 'herself' mad !
I Don't think its too bad atall.

Be careful. That word has been copyrighted.

http://www.digical.com/

sbsquarepants

garancafan wrote: »

Quote:
Originally Posted by garancafan View Post
As a denizen of Templeogue myself, I would be interested to know if that is "are" the plural of "be" or "are" 100 square meters.

The first rhymes with "bar", the second with "bare"

Plural of be?

It's are rhyming with bar - sure you most likely say it that way yourself!:D

GUIGuy

Oh the old 'advertisement' pronunciation debate.:D

I've heard 3 pronunciations of which only 2 are 'accepted'.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/advertisement?q=advertisement

and

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/american_english/advertisement?q=advertisement

The other pronunciation is quite close to the standard English pronunciation except the intonation/emphasis is different. Possibly it's what Ann Landers was referring to. I've only ever heard this in rural areas.

Think of the contraction 'tis (short for 'it is') place it between 'adver' and 'ment' putting a small emphasis on the tis syllable.

If this is the pronunciation the you were referring to then yes I find it a bit odd and I've never heard it in any thought/accepted pronunciations.

dxhound2005

GUIGuy wrote: »

Oh the old 'advertisement' pronunciation debate.:D

I've heard 3 pronunciations of which only 2 are 'accepted'.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/advertisement?q=advertisement

and

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/american_english/advertisement?q=advertisement

The other pronunciation is quite close to the standard English pronunciation except the intonation/emphasis is different. Possibly it's what Ann Landers was referring to. I've only ever heard this in rural areas.

Think of the contraction 'tis (short for 'it is') place it between 'adver' and 'ment' putting a small emphasis on the tis syllable.

If this is the pronunciation the you were referring to then yes I find it a bit odd and I've never heard it in any thought/accepted pronunciations.

Here is a link with audio for 3 different pronunciations. That doesn't prove anything, people are free to use whatever form they like and other people can regard some of them as being incorrect. However the link does seem to say that the "is" version is standard British English and the "ise" version is American.

http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=advertisement&submit=Submit

GUIGuy

Another mispronunciation is Electra-city. That's common in the north.

GUIGuy

Hi, that link is useful but the pronunciation I'm taking about isn't one of those. It's a bit like the British but there's a strong emphasis is on the t is tis. In the standard British pronunciation we draw out the 'ver' a tiny little bit.

GUIGuy

Strangely on the remunerate/renumerate debate. Some sites list renumerate as simply a misspelling of remunerate.

To me they were always separate words. Enumerate means to count renumerate means to recount. The distinction is common in software development where you don't want to recount lists needlessly... and enumeration is a specific form of iteration.

dxhound2005

GUIGuy wrote: »

Strangely on the remunerate/renumerate debate. Some sites list renumerate as simply a misspelling of remunerate.

To me they were always separate words. Enumerate means to count renumerate means to recount. The distinction is common in software development where you don't want to recount lists needlessly... and enumeration is a specific form of iteration.

According to my Chambers dictionary they are not related. Enumerate comes from the Latin for number, whereas remunerate comes for the Latin for gift.

Alun

GUIGuy wrote: »

Enumerate means to count renumerate means to recount. The distinction is common in software development where you don't want to recount lists needlessly... and enumeration is a specific form of iteration.

I'd say that would be either re-enumerate or reenumerate. Renumerate is indeed just a (common) misspelling and mispronunciation of remunerate.

dxhound2005

Alun wrote: »

I'd say that would be either re-enumerate or reenumerate. Renumerate is indeed just a (common) misspelling and mispronunciation of remunerate.

Also listed under the sense to count in some dictionaries. And it has a long history.

http://www.onelook.com/?w=renumerate&ls=a

LordSutch

a/ We were sat at the bus stop when it started to rain . . . . .

b/ I was stood in the front row of the gig!

a and b really annoy me, but I guess 'll just have to live with this new form of 'non standard English' :cool:

Sleepy

"I'll revert to you"

No, you ****ing won't. You never were me and clearly our life experience has been markedly different if you've never been introduced to a ****ing dictionary.

LordSutch

I heard a woman on the RTE news last week talking about the 'Treath' to her way of life, living on a canal barge )

I have heard heigth (meaning height) before, but its the 1st time I've ever heard treath (meaning threat).

Fascinating.

Wise Old Elf

Bump for UPC's "exTRAWdinary" horizon. Urge to kill rising.

robman60

I don't know anyone outside my immediate family who pronounces "taught" correctly.

Even my English teacher says "thought".


By far the worst two are "I seen" and "I done". Being incapable of conjugating two of the most common verbs in your first language is generally a good indication you're an idiot.

MJ23

LordSutch wrote: »

a/ We were sat at the bus stop when it started to rain . . . . .

b/ I was stood in the front row of the gig!

a and b really annoy me, but I guess 'll just have to live with this new form of 'non standard English' :cool:

I hate it too. It's slowly setting in here and becoming the norm. Everyone watching those brain rot English soaps, the worst one them being Eastenders, where non of them can speak properly innit. Phew Mitchew

MJ23

Disco Stuart wrote: »

Bump for UPC's "exTRAWdinary" horizon. Urge to kill rising.

Hate that smug pretty boy.
Oh and that "fibre powered broadbandge" with Yvonne from Fair City doing the voiceover.
Try saying "fibre powerered broadband" fast five times.

mrpdap

People saying "should have went" instead of "should have gone".
You even hear it on the radio.

MJ23

I've seen in several chippers.....

batter sausage

abbir

mrpdap wrote: »

People saying "should have went" instead of "should have gone".
You even hear it on the radio.

How about writing "should of went"?

garancafan

LordSutch wrote: »

a/ We were sat at the bus stop when it started to rain . . . . .

b/ I was stood in the front row of the gig!

a and b really annoy me, but I guess 'll just have to live with this new form of 'non standard English' :cool:

Our walking-tour guide realised we had no rain-gear so we were sat at the bus stop when it started to rain.

The usher saw that my seat gave a poor view and I appreciated his kindness when I was stood in the front row of the gig.

bnt

I learned to use "to" as a relative preposition e.g. "relative to", "different to", so it bugs me when I see people saying things like "my hair is different than yours" or "they are different from each other". I always say "different to" in such cases.

I've tried looking this up, and online sources including Oxford Dictionaries seem to indicate that they're all OK. But I still feel that "from" or "than" don't go after "different". "Larger than" or "derived from" is fine, but not "different than" or "different from".

PS: it annoys me when folks talk about e.g. "the adds on TV". There's only one "d" in "advertisement", so there's only one "d" in its contraction: "ads".

Wibbs

"I seen". Jesus. There's a full stop there so this isn't a religious vision.

It's not just an Irish thing either. I've read it on UK and US forums as well.

osarusan

garancafan wrote: »

Our walking-tour guide realised we had no rain-gear so we were sat at the bus stop when it started to rain.

The usher saw that my seat gave a poor view and I appreciated his kindness when I was stood in the front row of the gig.

This is grammatically correct, and fair play for realising that, but the vast majority of people aren't using it like that.

mickrock

garancafan wrote: »

Our walking-tour guide realised we had no rain-gear so we were sat at the bus stop when it started to rain.

Our walking-tour guide realised we had no rain-gear so we were seated at the bus stop when it started to rain.

There's a difference between "to sit" and "to seat".

The One Who Knocks

green_screen wrote: »

'Could of.'

Maybe when you hear people saying it they're trying to say could've?

The One Who Knocks

mike_ie wrote: »

"pacific" for "specific", (as in "How long will it take to fix this pacific problem?").

Blame the Donegal Catch ad

Tokyo

The One Who Knocks wrote: »

Maybe when you hear people saying it they're trying to say could've?

Yeah, there have been a few mentioned so far that could be written off to local accent or pronunciation (unless seen written down of course) - taught/thought, could of/could've etc....

The One Who Knocks

Oooh affect & effect, very irritating!