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Mispronunciation/ Poor grammar that annoys you?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,565 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    "Ye" and "Yer" :rolleyes:










































    It's "Yiz" and "Yizzers"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Fizzlesque wrote: »
    I often wonder why so many people (myself included) weren't effectively taught the correct use of it's versus its, even though we all managed to correctly learn when to use, and when not to use, apostrophes in most other circumstances.

    Years ago my boss, who detested badly written English, pulled me up on adding an apostrophe when applying ownership to the word 'it'

    "The swan broke its neck."
    "Its neck was broken"

    Otherwise it becomes 'it is'.

    Ever since my boss pointed out this error, I can't help but notice it being used by lots of people who would otherwise use apostrophes correctly.

    One person I know always insists on adding the apostrophe at the end of the 's' and that irritates me even more.

    Actually while I'm on the subject of adding the apostrophe to the end of the word - I often see: peoples', which is ridiculous as people is already a plural, so no need to place the apostrophe at the end of the word.

    Usually in those cases I want to correct the writer because it suggests to me they do care about using apostrophes correctly, but correcting people is often frowned upon, so I just grumble to myself and shout at the computer screen instead. :)

    Someone needs to explain that to HTC and get them to alter the auto correct on their phones!


  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭kingchess


    .
    Irish comedian (or should that be 'comedienne'? ;) ) Aisling Bea was recently on 8 Out Of 10 Cats Does Countdown, and as she was selecting her letters, she repeatedly asked "Can I get a vowel?" and "Can I get a consonant?".

    Sean Lock wasn't happy. "YOU SHOULD BE ASKING IF YOU CAN HAVE A VOWEL!! IF YOU WANT TO GET A VOWEL, GET OUT OF YOUR CHAIR, GO OVER TO RACHEL AND GET ONE!!".[/QUOTE

    can I have a vowel? please correct me if I am wrong(and I know that you will be very happy to do so) but should it not be-may I have?? does "can" not refer to an ability to do something , for example-can I jump across that canyon? and may i jump across that canyon? would not have the same meaning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    kingchess wrote: »

    can I have a vowel? please correct me if I am wrong(and I know that you will be very happy to do so) but should it not be-may I have?? does "can" not refer to an ability to do something , for example-can I jump across that canyon? and may i jump across that canyon? would not have the same meaning.

    "Can" can be used to refer to possibility, ability and permission, whereas "may" is only used for possibility and permission.

    Lots of smug teachers have tried to show that they're smarter than their students by answering the request "Can I go to the toilet?" with "I don't know, can you? :cool::rolleyes:" until the student finally asks "May I go to the toilet?
    There's a special circle of hell reserved for those people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 795 ✭✭✭kingchess


    pint taken-only joking-POINT taken


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    kingchess wrote: »
    please correct me if I am wrong(and I know that you will be very happy to do so) but should it not be-may I have?? does "can" not refer to an ability to do something , for example-can I jump across that canyon? and may i jump across that canyon? would not have the same meaning.

    Used to have a teacher in primary school who used to reinforce this point.

    'Sir, can I go to the toilet', to which he would reply 'you can, but you may not'. Proper ar$ehole he was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    One mispronunciation that drives me mad every time that I hear it is Falcon - correct British and US pronunciations here: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/british/falcon#

    The incorrect version is used in an advertisement for the massively expensive Mount Falcon Hotel in County Mayo and even offers courses in 'falconry'. Unless we've become the 51st state in the USA I don't see why the American pronunciation is used. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭syngindub


    not authors day, it's arthurs day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Loose/lose


    I do my best to overlook it, as Lord knows my own spelling is far from perfect. I can even cope with the fcuk ups in most sports threads, where the words "win" and "lose" would be fairly common.

    But I have had to stop reading GAA and Heineken Cup threads at the end of the regular season, where people are speculating on what teams need to win/lose games to make the knock out stages.

    It is head wreaking stuff. Seriously people, if you are going to post in sports forums, figure out how to spell the words WIN/WINNING and LOSE/LOSING. There are NO more important words FFS ! :mad::mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,487 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    Seriously people, if you are going to post in sports forums, figure out how to spell the words WIN/WINNING and LOSE/LOSING. There are NO more important words FFS ! :mad::mad::mad:
    It's the same in the Motors forum ... cars seem to have 'breaks', and tyres (or worse still, tires :eek:) have 'threads' over there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,487 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    It is head wreaking stuff.
    :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Ha ! You got me. :D

    But I did already admit that my own spelling is far from perfect. That is why I try to let most things go. But not knowing how to spell the word "lose" in a sports forum, is a hanging offense imo. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    Ha ! You got me. :D

    But I did already admit that my own spelling is far from perfect. That is why I try to let most things go. But not knowing how to spell the word "lose" in a sports forum, is a hanging offense imo. :p

    Offence. Offense (American) :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Offence. Offense (American) :D

    <
    Look at my location. I am American. As is the spell check (yes, I said check and not cheque) facility on my American bought lap top. ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 alrightso


    Been/being..."I have being shopping all day"..
    I see this on facebook and emails daily, makes me a little twitchy :p:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,870 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Offence. Offense (American) :D

    This word has nearly become 2 in my mind, with 2 seperate spellings and pronunciations.

    When I see offense, in my head its like the NFL commentary: off-ence

    For offence though I picture it sounding like a surname: O'Fence.

    Naturally I only use "offence" in writing and speaking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,420 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    This word has nearly become 2 in my mind, with 2 seperate spellings and pronunciations.

    When I see offense, in my head its like the NFL commentary: off-ence

    For offence though I picture it sounding like a surname: O'Fence.

    Naturally I only use "offence" in writing and speaking.

    Another one to watch out for is Separate. It is not spelt Seperate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,033 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    One I've only ever heard in Ireland is confusion between "rob" and "steal".
    The conversation goes something like this:

    "My phone was robbed."
    "Robbed of what?"
    "Someone took it from my bag!"
    "Oh, you mean your phone was stolen!"

    Short version: people are robbed, things are stolen.

    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

    — Kingsley Amis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    "I aksed him to borrow me a tenner".
    The Dunroamin Park Residence Association.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    bnt wrote: »

    Short version: people are robbed, things are stolen.

    People or places - you can't steal a bank. Not easily, anyways :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭Dizzicizzi


    Supposably instead of supposedly
    For all intensive purposes instead of for all intents and purposes
    Irregardless instead of regardless
    Pacifically instead of specifically
    Ex cetera instead of et cetera
    Of upmost importance instead of of utmost importance
    Had of/should of instead of had have/ should have
    Then instead of than and than instead of then
    Lay down instead of lie down
    It's instead of its
    Alot instead of a lot
    Grammer instead of grammar
    Dat instead of that

    So yeah... All of those absolutely drive me mad along with their, there and they're mistakes, which and witch mistakes, confusing weather and whether, confusing three and tree, where, were and wear mistakes... Actually... A lot of grammar and spelling things bother me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    The whole should of thing really fcks me. It's amazing the amount of people who get it wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Dizzicizzi wrote: »
    Supposably instead of supposedly
    For all intensive purposes instead of for all intents and purposes
    Irregardless instead of regardless
    Pacifically instead of specifically
    Ex cetera instead of et cetera
    Of upmost importance instead of of utmost importance
    Had of/should of instead of had have/ should have
    Then instead of than and than instead of then
    Lay down instead of lie down
    It's instead of its
    Alot instead of a lot
    Grammer instead of grammar
    Dat instead of that

    So yeah... All of those absolutely drive me mad along with their, there and they're mistakes, which and witch mistakes, confusing weather and whether, confusing three and tree, where, were and wear mistakes... Actually... A lot of grammar and spelling things bother me.

    This is never correct, unless you mean "have had" or "had had."

    Some people like to throw an extra "had" into the "if" clause of 3rd conditional sentences. For example:
    "If I had have studied more, my grammar would have been better."
    That's the only time I come across "had have," and even sometimes "had of," compounding the error with another, but it's quite wrong. There's no logic behind including that "have."

    Still, at least it's not as bad as Americans saying "If I would have..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,420 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The whole should of thing really fcks me. It's amazing the amount of people who get it wrong.

    You may be mishearing should've which is informal English as Should of. I very rarely see should of, could of etc. written. Should've serves the same purpose in speech as It's.

    Look up amount versus number. Number would be more suitable than amount in the context above.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭garancafan


    What about the misuse of which and that, huh?

    I have been pulled up on that in my youth.
    This lady explains the conundrum very well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭earlyevening


    4umbrellas wrote: »
    'Troath' (e.g. 'I have a sore troath') instead of 'throat'. At least if they said 'troat' it would be because they couldn't pronounce 'th', but 'troath' is just infuriating.

    ..and don't forget "thung" for tongue. More than 50% of the population say it. I despair.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,203 ✭✭✭Samsgirl


    Filum instead of film. Also Itly instead of Italy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 750 ✭✭✭playedalive


    garancafan wrote: »
    I have been pulled up on that in my youth.
    This lady explains the conundrum very well.

    Essentially, I should know this one as I teach English as a foreign language. I even tried to explain it in class today as I corrected it for one of my students.

    That is used when there is already no description of something you mention . Your reference is not defined as such until you add this important information. E.g. An organisation that fights against cancer.

    'Which' refers to something that is already defined. The information is moreso additional rather than necessary for understanding . E.g. A cancer research organisation, from which many people benefit.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Esme Jolly Revolver


    Still, at least it's not as bad as Americans saying "If I would have..."

    Hurts my brain every time

    I always find the "being that I am tired, I will go to bed" kind of construction strange there as well. I don't know if it's wrong (sounds it), but it sounds strange


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31 vellakare


    Hostipal

    Billon and Millon.

    A few others


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Euro and cent - despite it being official policy - and I refuse to accept it. I always refer to Euros and cents in any correspondence or conversation but then I am a dinosaur who also refuses to accept kilometres in place of miles. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,487 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    The whole should of thing really fcks me. It's amazing the amount of people who get it wrong.
    It's amazing the number of people that get that wrong too ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭Scartbeg


    Another particularly Hiberno-english trait is the use of "would be" instead of "am" or "is".

    e.g. "I would be 30 this year" instead of "I am 30..."
    The "would" implies a following "if" which is awkwardly absent.

    Similarly, the use of "the house was knocked" instead of "the house was knocked down"

    I'm not aware of either of these constructs being used anywhere else in English speaking countries. They don't particularly annoy me though, I just have to be careful that I don't use them when back in the home country or people look at me oddly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    vellakare wrote: »
    Hostipal

    Billon and Millon.

    A few others

    That's spelling not grammar.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭FullblownRose


    Any of it coming from jumped-up pedants who seem to thrive on putting other people down.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Philo Beddoe


    That's spelling not grammar.

    It's pronunciation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Philo Beddoe


    You may be mishearing should've which is informal English as Should of. I very rarely see should of, could of etc. written. Should've serves the same purpose in speech as It's.

    Actually I think the opposite is the case, people who are used to hearing should've think they're hearing should of and then write the latter. I see it all the time


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭mickrock


    Lots of people pronounce kilometre incorrectly.

    It should rhyme with centimetre and millimetre rather than with speedometer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    mickrock wrote: »
    Lots of people pronounce kilometre incorrectly.

    It should rhyme with centimetre and millimetre rather than with speedometer.

    American vs. British English pronunciation. Not necessarily wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭EoghanIRL


    I hate inferior grammar especially " I done it yesterday / earlier " and secondly " can I go toilet? ".

    can I go to the toilet? !!!!!!!
    I did it yesterday !!!!!!!!!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭MJ23


    The way they say "wrong" in the English soaps.
    "Wronga"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭robman60


    Scartbeg wrote: »
    Another particularly Hiberno-english trait is the use of "would be" instead of "am" or "is".

    e.g. "I would be 30 this year" instead of "I am 30..."
    The "would" implies a following "if" which is awkwardly absent.
    That's annoyingly common. People use it in all kinds of strange ways. For example, "I would be against that sort of thing" meaning I am against that sort of thing. You would be against it? Huh, what prevents you from being against it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭loalae


    When people pronounce Italian as "Eye-talian" - wtf is that about? It's Italy not Eye-taly, where the hell did Eye-talian come from?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭LynnGrace


    'phenomina'... Just saw this elsewhere, a misspelling I presume, so not really a grammar/ pronunciation error. Still trying to figure out what it means though. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭certifiedcrepe


    People saying annoying as "a-nine".

    You knew what else is a-nine?
    An upside down 6.

    I'll get my coat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭chuckyarelaw


    Sarcrifice / Sacrifice

    Ec cetera / Et cetera


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    It's pronunciation.

    Really, when's the last time you've heard someone say hostipal, billon (not the alloy) or millon.


    Think about it, hos-ti-pal, bill-on, mill-on?

    Don't think it was pronunciation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    Really, when's the last time you've heard someone say hostipal, billon (not the alloy) or millon.


    Think about it, hos-ti-pal, bill-on, mill-on?

    Don't think it was pronunciation.

    Pretty sure the poster who said he didn't like billon meant pronounciation. It's a Dublin pronounciation. Inner city I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    Pretty sure the poster who said he didn't like billon meant pronounciation. It's a Dublin pronounciation. Inner city I think.

    Oh that would explain it because I've never heard it personally.

    So is "pronounciation" a spelling or pronunciation mistake? ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 279 ✭✭shaneon77


    Weather / Whether


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