Xbox One General Discussion - Part 2 (Please Read 1st Post)

diusmr8a504cvk · 25-05-2015 11:55pm

CatInABox wrote: »

No, different organisations with-in Microsoft, but the much of the same mentality that went into Windows 8 went into the Xbox One. It was, however, also a product of it's time.

Right when the Xbox One was in the early stages of development, the Wii was annihilating the competition, and Microsoft had just released the kinect, the fastest selling accessory in history, which had a huge profit margin on it. Looking at that from a business point of view right then and there, you'd have to think that motion control was THE new frontier of consoles.

Couple that with the data that showed the Xbox 360 was now used as much for media consumption as it was for games, you can easily see why they decided on a console with more media options, with the kinect as the primary control. In hindsight, it's a terrible idea, but that's with hindsight.

I'd say a fair few people in Microsoft knew a year before release that they'd missed the mark, but by that stage it was already way too late. Senior managers were committed to this vision, and it had to succeed for the betterment of their careers, so it was announced and released as is. They're gone now, in one of several massive purges that they've gone through since.

I don't really play multiplayer games anymore but it must be a struggle. Gone are the days when you could very quickly set up a party, kick/mute people, send a message. The fact that they said you can play your Xbox One offline but essentially you can't as you need internet for achievements to pop and even small details like the BLU-RAY PLAYER have to be downloaded and have updates.

26-05-2015 12:49am

it would be naive to think they didn't see the use/install base of XBMC on original xboxs (had to be modded) as an indication of where to go. I know 7 people in my old job way back then that bought and paid to have modded original xboxs when there was a price drop on them prior to the 360 launch to run them as media clients on their tv. Much has changed since then tough in that an average phone will do what a modded xbox could back then and more.

I hated their focus pre-launch of one with their want to be the focus of your living room thing..... but I think they have come pretty close to achieving it ...... the problem is for them is smart tv's / plex for samsung etc etc do it better and cheaper with more options

CatInABox · 26-05-2015 12:49am

Crystal Plain Nectar wrote: »

I don't really play multiplayer games anymore but it must be a struggle. Gone are the days when you could very quickly set up a party, kick/mute people, send a message. The fact that they said you can play your Xbox One offline but essentially you can't as you need internet for achievements to pop and even small details like the BLU-RAY PLAYER have to be downloaded and have updates.

It's gotten a lot better than what it was at the start, but there are still problems with some parts of it.

Also, as far as I know of the situation. the Blu-ray player needing to be downloaded is an accounting trick that they've used, basically it stops them having to pay a full license fee until you actually download it and play a blu-ray in the drive.

CatInABox · 26-05-2015 12:06pm

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Sounds like pure non-sense, In fact Vista and Win 8 are perfectly fine Operating Systems. Vista gets grief but in was more due to the crappy drivers that hardware manufactures were pushing at the time and low end hardware. Put Vista on a modern PC and its perfectly OK.

The same goes for Windows 8, its faster and more secure than Windows 7 but the neck-beards gets themselves all twisted up about the Metro UI. The one just needs a couple of updates to get itself sorted. Remember what the original Xbox 360 was like at launch time??

This is also true. Vista on a decent machine was a totally fine experience, and an awful lot of the problem were third party driver related. It's almost as if the manufacturers believed that they could play hard ball with Microsoft over the future security of Windows, and Microsoft made the right call to lock everything down.

Windows 8.1, on the other hand, is by far the best OS that they've ever made. There is a total failure on one side with the metro environment, but that is something that can be ignored on a day to day basis, and the rest of the OS is clearer better than 7 in every area.

The One has improved steadily and rapidly since release. I see no reason to believe that they're going to stop with the updates any time soon, in fact, after Windows 10 gets put onto the One, I'd imagine the updates will be coming even faster.

shuffles03 · 26-05-2015 12:37pm

Quick Poll: The Witcher 3 or Dragon Age Inquisition?

Just finished GTA V and looking for a good RPG.

CatInABox · 26-05-2015 1:07pm

shuffles03 wrote: »

Quick Poll: The Witcher 3 or Dragon Age Inquisition?

Just finished GTA V and looking for a good RPG.

I'm really enjoying Dragon Age at the moment, haven't played the Witcher yet.

If you have EA access, you can try Dragon Age for 6 hours for free.

MiskyBoyy · 26-05-2015 2:00pm

shuffles03 wrote: »

Quick Poll: The Witcher 3 or Dragon Age Inquisition?

Just finished GTA V and looking for a good RPG.

I'm currently playing The Witcher 3, never played any of the previous ones and I ****ing LOVE it!

So I would highly recommend! Although, Dragons Age digital was on sale for only $30, not sure if gone now or not...

diusmr8a504cvk · 26-05-2015 5:30pm

CatInABox wrote: »

This is also true. Vista on a decent machine was a totally fine experience, and an awful lot of the problem were third party driver related. It's almost as if the manufacturers believed that they could play hard ball with Microsoft over the future security of Windows, and Microsoft made the right call to lock everything down.

*Windows 8.1, on the other hand, is by far the best OS that they've ever made.* There is a total failure on one side with the metro environment, but that is something that can be ignored on a day to day basis, and the rest of the OS is clearer better than 7 in every area.

The One has improved steadily and rapidly since release. I see no reason to believe that they're going to stop with the updates any time soon, in fact, after Windows 10 gets put onto the One, I'd imagine the updates will be coming even faster.

Are you high? Windows 8 is horrible whatever about Vista. A marketplace on a laptop is stupid, everything about it is horrible including that menu with all the apps. As phones progress they're becoming more and more like Computers but Windows 8 went ahead and started evolving into a phone. Windows 10 from what little I've seen looks like a good hybrid, still wouldn't leave Windows 7 in a hurry though.

Raymond Pest · 26-05-2015 6:20pm

shuffles03 wrote: »

Quick Poll: The Witcher 3 or Dragon Age Inquisition?

Just finished GTA V and looking for a good RPG.

Witcher 3. Dragon Age is good but gets tedious and boring after a while, witcher is good for around 100 hours of gameplay with a fantastic story

CatInABox · 26-05-2015 7:01pm

Crystal Plain Nectar wrote: »

Are you high? Windows 8 is horrible whatever about Vista. A marketplace on a laptop is stupid, everything about it is horrible including that menu with all the apps. As phones progress they're becoming more and more like Computers but Windows 8 went ahead and started evolving into a phone. Windows 10 from what little I've seen looks like a good hybrid, still wouldn't leave Windows 7 in a hurry though.

Different strokes and all that then. I'd happily continue this conversation in the windows forum, but here isn't the place for it.

Hellrazer · 26-05-2015 7:21pm

Crystal Plain Nectar wrote: »

Are you high? Windows 8 is horrible whatever about Vista. A marketplace on a laptop is stupid, everything about it is horrible including that menu with all the apps. As phones progress they're becoming more and more like Computers but Windows 8 went ahead and started evolving into a phone. Windows 10 from what little I've seen looks like a good hybrid, still wouldn't leave Windows 7 in a hurry though.

Windows 8 with classic shell installed is the best OS out there.Do away with that metro ui and you have an OS that's better then 7.

I always used 7 up until I was shown 8.1 with classic shell.Its on all my pc`s now.

CatInABox · 26-05-2015 7:47pm

Raymond Pest wrote: »

Witcher 3. Dragon Age is good but gets tedious and boring after a while, witcher is good for around 100 hours of gameplay with a fantastic story

Currently on 72 hours with Dragon Age at the moment, I'd say that either of those games will keep you occupied for a while.

rottie 11 · 26-05-2015 8:04pm

Hellrazer wrote: »

Windows 8 with classic shell installed is the best OS out there.Do away with that metro ui and you have an OS that's better then 7.

I always used 7 up until I was shown 8.1 with classic shell.Its on all my pc`s now.

What's this classic shell about ? I have a windows 8 laptop and Im in 2 mind about it.

CatInABox · 26-05-2015 8:06pm

rottie 11 wrote: »

What's this classic shell about ? I have a windows 8 laptop and Im in 2 mind about it.

Classic Shell.

It's pretty good, don't use it myself, but it's the first thing that I put on my friends laptops.

shuffles03 · 26-05-2015 8:19pm

CatInABox wrote: »

Currently on 72 hours with Dragon Age at the moment, I'd say that either of those games will keep you occupied for a while.

What are your thoughts based on 72 hours?

CatInABox · 26-05-2015 8:37pm

shuffles03 wrote: »

What are your thoughts based on 72 hours?

Really enjoying it.

Combat can feel a little weak at times, as it's more on the RPG end of the scale, but other than that, everything else is really strong. Storyline is excellent, as are the characters involved. Settings are kinda stereotypical fare, but are probably some of the best realised that I've seen so far.

I also like the keep upgrading/war side of it, even if it's just a tiny mini-game really.

shuffles03 · 26-05-2015 9:10pm

CatInABox wrote: »

Really enjoying it.

Combat can feel a little weak at times, as it's more on the RPG end of the scale, but other than that, everything else is really strong. Storyline is excellent, as are the characters involved. Settings are kinda stereotypical fare, but are probably some of the best realised that I've seen so far.

I also like the keep upgrading/war side of it, even if it's just a tiny mini-game really.

You've convinced me! Just need to clear a couple of trophies in GTA first

Hellrazer · 26-05-2015 11:30pm

Rather than read back through the thread again..anyone got the link to the argos harddrive that's recommended.Up to 90 % full so I'd better get one this weekend!!

MiskyBoyy · 26-05-2015 11:40pm

Hellrazer wrote: »

Rather than read back through the thread again..anyone got the link to the argos harddrive that's recommended.Up to 90 % full so I'd better get one this weekend!!

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/2489935/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7COffice%252C%2BPCs%2Band%2Bphones%7C14418968/c_2/3%7C19780850%7CHard%2Bdrives%252C%2BUSBs%2Band%2Bdata%2Bstorage%7C14419053/c_3/4%7Ccat_14419053%7CPortable%2Bhard%2Bdrives%7C14419054.htm

Ould Mr Brennan · 27-05-2015 6:03pm

Any thoughts on lifeless planet? Just seen it in the store for 20 euro. Everybody seems to be really happy with the witcher. Can't wait to get it

28-05-2015 8:09am

Ould Mr Brennan wrote: »

Any thoughts on lifeless planet? Just seen it in the store for 20 euro. Everybody seems to be really happy with the witcher. Can't wait to get it

Not the game I thought it was going to be , short and very linear. It's not a bad game but not worth the asking price.

Ould Mr Brennan · 28-05-2015 6:53pm

LIGHTNING wrote: »

I got it for 2 euro and even that I didn't think it was worth it. Quite a poor game, real shame I was looking forward to it for ages.

That's unfortunate. Looks like a story that had massive potential aswell

El Inho · 28-05-2015 11:15pm

hi all...just wanted to say hi. Getting the one tomorrow.

Going for an assasains creed bundle with kinect. Going to grab the tv tuner too, possibly pick up gta 5 and wolfenstein.

upgrading from the 360.

any tips for newbies?

Stone Deaf 4evr · 29-05-2015 12:02am

El Inho wrote: »

hi all...just wanted to say hi. Getting the one tomorrow.

Going for an assasains creed bundle with kinect. Going to grab the tv tuner too, possibly pick up gta 5 and wolfenstein.

upgrading from the 360.

any tips for newbies?

Disconnect from The internet when you're installing games off a disc, otherwise it'll try and download patches etc and can take forever. Set the console to always on so that it can download them while you're not using it .

CatInABox · 29-05-2015 12:32am

El Inho wrote: »

hi all...just wanted to say hi. Getting the one tomorrow.

Going for an assasains creed bundle with kinect. Going to grab the tv tuner too, possibly pick up gta 5 and wolfenstein.

upgrading from the 360.

any tips for newbies?

Hope you enjoy your new Xbox One.

Get EA Access.

If you've a Live Gold subscription, then you can get your free Games With Gold here.

Gizmo55 · 29-05-2015 12:35am

Has anyone else had the issue of their left thumbstick drifting upwards? I was onto Microsoft but it's a Day One controller so not under warranty anymore.

rottie 11 · 29-05-2015 1:16am

Gizmo55 wrote: »

Has anyone else had the issue of their left thumbstick drifting upwards? I was onto Microsoft but it's a Day One controller so not under warranty anymore.

My left stick is totally bolloxed. It usually does the opposite of what I want lol

El Inho · 29-05-2015 8:16am

CatInABox wrote: »

Hope you enjoy your new Xbox One.

Get EA Access.

If you've a Live Gold subscription, then you can get your free Games With Gold here.

Thanks.

Guys in the bargains thread alerted me to ea access as I want to upgrade my fifa. Great deal! Be telling everyone in work about it! Going to pick up gta and wolfenstein too.

Games with gold is brill too. Loved it on 360.

Stone Deaf 4evr · 29-05-2015 9:03am

Gizmo55 wrote: »

Has anyone else had the issue of their left thumbstick drifting upwards? I was onto Microsoft but it's a Day One controller so not under warranty anymore.

My day one had the same issue after about a year, I ended up just replacing it.

rizzla · 29-05-2015 10:00am

Gizmo55 wrote: »

Has anyone else had the issue of their left thumbstick drifting upwards? I was onto Microsoft but it's a Day One controller so not under warranty anymore.

Never a problem with the thumbstick, even though I've put alot of hours aggressively hitting quarter circles in Killer Instinct. Do sometimes have a sticky A button and squicky triggers.

Xbox One General Discussion - Part 2 (Please Read 1st Post)

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