Liveline Thread 27/03/14 to date

AK333

Well sit in the GP's or HSE and don't leave if that what it takes. Get off the phone and get down the doctors - would she not get respite?

snubbleste

"I have not been off me phone since nine o clock monday morning"

neris

Lapin wrote: »

They are horrible in all fairness.

those 2 poor caterpillars with no heads

Kaizersoze81

Howiye joe

SEPT 23 1989

is it autism?

signostic

Did the Da not help out?

Dan Jaman

Lapin wrote: »

They are horrible in all fairness.

Wurld Wyde Webb dis way.

AK333

Wonder how old he is

constitutionus

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

is it autism?

sounds more like over exposure to joe.

i can relate.

Lapin

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

is it autism?

Yep.

Roger_007

Lapin wrote: »

They are horrible in all fairness.

I thought North and South were OPPOSITE directions?

lucylu

In this case what can a social worker do? Surely he needs medical help

ThisRegard

I wonder if Joe will have his good friend, salt of de earth Dub Harry Crosbie on soon, NAMA decided to enforce their €77 million loans against him as he lied through his teeth about what assets he and his family had.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/commercial-property/harry-crosbie-failed-to-disclose-assets-nama-tells-court-1.1794578?page=1

Mr Crosbie had initially provided Nama with “materially inaccurate” sworn statements of the assets held by himself and his family which failed to disclose all the assets held, including property in France, he said.
Nama was also concerned to learn of payments of some €740,000 and €650,000 from Mr Crosbie to his wife Rita around the time Nama took over his loans, counsel said.
Mr Crosbie also failed to disclose significant cash gifts to his children. It was in those and other circumstances Nama decided to enforce the loans and was claiming entitlement to summary judgment for some €77 milion against Mr Crosbie, he said.

Lapin

Roger_007 wrote: »

I thought North and South were OPPOSITE directions?

Not in Mayo.

neris

is it an easy cop out for parents to blame the hse and government for their kids behaviour now a days?

AK333

Roger_007 wrote: »

I thought North and South were OPPOSITE directions?

Not in the Whest

snubbleste

Who's paying her phone bill?

Roger_007

snubbleste wrote: »

Who's paying her phone bill?

YOU....and me

neris

snubbleste wrote: »

Who's paying her phone bill?

A Ms Joan Burton Id suspect

eviltwin

I feel for her, I have a child with autisim myself and with cut backs there is very little help out there.

AK333

neris wrote: »

is it an easy cop out for parents to blame the hse and government for their kids behaviour now a days?

I would be inclined to think this way for "every" day bad behaviour but in fairness, this child seems to be pretty bad

Mind you, how does a seven year old child know about self-harming. I thought this would have been a learned behaviour, rather than instinctive

CountyHurler

Lapin wrote: »

Joe is obsessed with the azoo.

He sees them as kindred spirits, as they are they only other North Dublin residents (besides Duffy Towers) that have a lake and wildlife roaming freely around their vast expanse..

SEPT 23 1989

In fairness the treatment of autistic children is a disgrace in this country and it is so shortsighted not to plough resources at it because if the kids cant be independent as adults its going to cost the state multiples of what they could have spent on a child

BPKS

neris wrote: »

is it an easy cop out for parents to blame the hse and government for their kids behaviour now a days?

Not in this case by the sounds of it.

Its bad enough when this kid is 7. In another 7 or 8 years when he could be a 6ft 2 18 stone teenager, he will hurt somebody else (maybe badly or worse), probably his mother.

Kaizersoze81

I can't get nobody joe

AK333

Where's her family support? The father's family?

Its said but its not always someone elses fault

signostic

I doubbt if the HSE gives a toss whether or not she goes on Liveline, the woman in Cavan confined to her room for 4 years never got her wheelchair...

my friend

Where's the father?

Lapin

neris wrote: »

is it an easy cop out for parents to blame the hse and government for their kids behaviour now a days?

What has that got to do with this call, have you being listening at all?

The child is autistic and self harming by severely slapping his head.

Not screaming in the aisle of Tesco because she didn't buy him sweets.

This caller and her son are being seriously let down by the authorities here.

AK333

There is help there - her son could go to respite

There are foster parents there that could take a child for a weekend / one week in 8, etc, there is help there, but maybe she can't access it

snubbleste

I sympathise with her.

Lenin Skynard

my friend wrote: »

Where's the father?

Unless the father is a doctor specialising in autism, I don't see what difference it makes.

eviltwin

neris wrote: »

is it an easy cop out for parents to blame the hse and government for their kids behaviour now a days?

autisim is not caused by bad parents of a lack of discipline

Kaizersoze81

"I could go on all day long"

Please dont

HeidiHeidi

my friend wrote: »

Where's the father?

What's the father (or the granny, or the first cousin once removed for that matter) got to do with anything in this case?

The woman is looking for professional help with her son who is causing himself serious harm, not for a babysitter for Friday night, or fifty quid to help with the groceries.

The cynicism on this thread astounds me once again.

eviltwin

AK333 wrote: »

There is help there - her son could go to respite

There are foster parents there that could take a child for a weekend / one week in 8, etc, there is help there, but maybe she can't access it

massive waiting lists and not always suitable, I doubt if her son is as she says he would be granted respite tbh.

signostic

no internet in the studio but he can read email...

woejus

ah Joe, no slagging to be had here with this sad story, get a caller on about a scammer or rip-off merchant. We haven't had an event elephant in a while?

I'd even take Martin 'de culture' Collins on now for a bit of scandal

CountyHurler

my friend wrote: »

Where's the father?

Stop being politically incorrect... This is Ireland, she is ENTITLED to all of this, responsibility does come in to it..

AK333

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Unless the father is a doctor specialising in autism, I don't see what difference it makes.

He could help and she could get a break.

Being a parent is hard enough without having a special needs child

my friend

Neither mother shuts up

Link?

redtelephone

AK333 wrote: »

I would be inclined to think this way for "every" day bad behaviour but in fairness, this child seems to be pretty bad

Mind you, how does a seven year old child know about self-harming. I thought this would have been a learned behaviour, rather than instinctive

No with autism it comes with the condition unfortunately.

neris

so you dont like filling forms lady so heres a blank cheque off you go now and enjoy the broke taxpayers cash

HeidiHeidi

my friend wrote: »

Neither mother shuts up

Link?

So a child's autism is the fault of the mother now because she never shuts up?

Lapin

AK333 wrote: »

There is help there - her son could go to respite

That's the best laugh I've had in ages !

Cheers AK

eviltwin

CountyHurler wrote: »

Stop being politically incorrect... This is Ireland, she is ENTITLED to all of this, responsibility does come in to it..

Wtf are you talking about? The child has autisim....it makes no difference if there is a father or not on the scene, its not going to make his autisim magically go away. Obviously people have heard this women talk, heard her accent, heard her age and judged her child is just a brat and she is a bad mother.

my friend

TDs aren't knocking on doors

AK333

Lapin wrote: »

That's the best laugh I've had in ages !

Cheers AK

That wasn't a joke - there are respite carers that could give the mother a break - its hard to continually fight for your rights or the rights for your child. If she's not sleeping, she probably can't even think straight

my friend

Was that joes inbox?

Lapin

Are Dads with autistic children excluded from support ?