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An Claidheamh

Here is the link for Linguist Terry Dolan on MBB.

Very interesting, fair play to him.

http://www.rte.ie/radio/utils/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html#!rii=9%3A20604019%3A15036%3A24%2D06%2D2014%3A

Dan Jaman

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Here is the link for Linguist Terry Dolan on MBB.

Very interesting, fair play to him.

http://www.rte.ie/radio/utils/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html#!rii=9%3A20604019%3A15036%3A24%2D06%2D2014%3A

I think he's partly right, but there's a whole other section of the English audience that just laugh at something like MBB. They just laugh because they find it funny, without being too deep about it.
If I may veer the topic slightly - Roddy Doyle was slated for his books full of Dublin characters; slated by middle-class Dubliners who simply couldn't admit he'd got it bob-on in his observations of life in many parts of the city.
Similarly, Rab C. Nesbitt was slated by many middle-class Glaswegians, who just couldn't accept that he encapsulated / caricatured so many bits of life in Glasgow. I knew Rab C. I grew up with Rab C. I used to piss myself laughing at Rab C, because the character of Rab C was an amalgam of many people I knew in real life and it was acutely observed and written.
You still find po-faced tossers who deny that, of course.

An Claidheamh

Dan Jaman wrote: »

I think he's partly right, but there's a whole other section of the English audience that just laugh at something like MBB. They just laugh because they find it funny, without being too deep about it.
If I may veer the topic slightly - Roddy Doyle was slated for his books full of Dublin characters; slated by middle-class Dubliners who simply couldn't admit he'd got it bob-on in his observations of life in many parts of the city.
Similarly, Rab C. Nesbitt was slated by many middle-class Glaswegians, who just couldn't accept that he encapsulated / caricatured so many bits of life in Glasgow. I knew Rab C. I grew up with Rab C. I used to piss myself laughing at Rab C, because the character of Rab C was an amalgam of many people I knew in real life and it was acutely observed and written.
You still find po-faced tossers who deny that, of course.

Oh absolutely. Just that they still exist I find bizarre.

An Claidheamh

I'm still waiting for Wednesday's Liveline to be put up...

brooke 2

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Here is the link for Linguist Terry Dolan on MBB.

Very interesting, fair play to him.

http://www.rte.ie/radio/utils/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html#!rii=9%3A20604019%3A15036%3A24%2D06%2D2014%3A

What an insufferable snob!!

Terry Dolan is expressing his own feelings of superiority - his several references to
the Red and Green Luas lines clearly illustrate this. Keelin Shanley even had to remind
him not to be 'classist'!!

I used to enjoy listening to him on Sean Moncrieff's Newstalk show many years ago
before he (Dolan) had his stroke. Those slots were confined to describing the
meaning and origin of words in our lexicon. Today, he came across as a quite
unpleasant person, in my opinion.

Re the Irish and frequent use of bad language, he and Keelin were correct. It really
annoys me listening to a stand up comedian tell jokes to an unresponsive audience;
he then introduces a few 'f*cks' and the place erupts! The opposite applies to US
audiences - if a comedian uses a swear word, there is stunned silence.

brooke 2

Dan Jaman wrote: »

I think he's partly right, but there's a whole other section of the English audience that just laugh at something like MBB. They just laugh because they find it funny, without being too deep about it.
If I may veer the topic slightly - Roddy Doyle was slated for his books full of Dublin characters; slated by middle-class Dubliners who simply couldn't admit he'd got it bob-on in his observations of life in many parts of the city.
Similarly, Rab C. Nesbitt was slated by many middle-class Glaswegians, who just couldn't accept that he encapsulated / caricatured so many bits of life in Glasgow. I knew Rab C. I grew up with Rab C. I used to piss myself laughing at Rab C, because the character of Rab C was an amalgam of many people I knew in real life and it was acutely observed and written.
You still find po-faced tossers who deny that, of course.

I doubt the huge audience who watched MBB in the UK last Christmas Day did so
because they wanted to feel 'superior' to the 'vulgar' Irish!! I would even hazard a
guess that they did so for the simple reason that they enjoyed the humour. No
analysis needed.

An Claidheamh

brooke 2 wrote: »

What an insufferable snob!!

Terry Dolan is expressing his own feelings of superiority - his several references to
the Red and Green Luas lines clearly illustrate this. Keelin Shanley even had to remind
him not to be 'classist'!!

I used to enjoy listening to him on Sean Moncrieff's Newstalk show many years ago
before he (Dolan) had his stroke. Those slots were confined to describing the
meaning and origin of words in our lexicon. Today, he came across as a quite
unpleasant person, in my opinion.

Re the Irish and frequent use of bad language, he and Keelin were correct. It really
annoys me listening to a stand up comedian tell jokes to an unresponsive audience;
he then introduces a few 'f*cks' and the place erupts! The opposite applies to US
audiences - if a comedian uses a swear word, there is stunned silence.

I was wondering if that was him. I used to like that slot too.


I think he was really angling to the historic way, almost to Victorian times, of language and class.

An Claidheamh

ButtersSuki wrote: »

And what thickness of Tarmac do they use on the runway?

Maybe Joe could get Pavee Point on the line and find out.

Dan Jaman

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Maybe Joe could get Pavee Point on the line and find out.

It would be an inch and leave out bollards with signs not to use until the cheque clears.

ButtersSuki

Just looking at pics of Joe at d'premeeer on independent.ie - luckily for you all I can't post them. He's got this thing about silk scarves that age him greatly but I'm sure he saw uncle Gaybo with a scarf once and thinks it's the way to go. He's not wearing a belt and his shoes are horribly mismatched and far too casual for the rest of his ensemble. I'll refrain from even discussing the dickie bow. He is severely lacking in the sartorial elegance department.


Great news is that upon reading the article I discovered (well it was news to me anyway) dat dis fillum is de first of tree, as in we have two more fillums to go before this becomes the whole MBB is consigned to history. Oh dear.....

One final question, why does BO'C insist on wearing his glasses on his forehead and not over his eyes? Are the glasses an addition to give the illusion that he is smarter than he actually is?

Hitchens

Dan Jaman wrote: »

I think he's partly right, but there's a whole other section of the English audience that just laugh at something like MBB. They just laugh because they find it funny, without being too deep about it.
If I may veer the topic slightly - Roddy Doyle was slated for his books full of Dublin characters; slated by middle-class Dubliners who simply couldn't admit he'd got it bob-on in his observations of life in many parts of the city.
Similarly, Rab C. Nesbitt was slated by many middle-class Glaswegians, who just couldn't accept that he encapsulated / caricatured so many bits of life in Glasgow. I knew Rab C. I grew up with Rab C. I used to piss myself laughing at Rab C, because the character of Rab C was an amalgam of many people I knew in real life and it was acutely observed and written.
You still find po-faced tossers who deny that, of course.

Awright there, Jamesie?

neris

Its along way from silk scarves & bow ties joe was raised. If a salt o d earth ballyfermot plumber surviving through life on the average wage turned up in the local on a saturday night dressed like that he,d be laughed out of the place

ButtersSuki

neris wrote: »

Its along way from silk scarves & bow ties joe was raised. If a salt o d earth ballyfermot plumber surviving through life on the average wage turned up in the local on a saturday night dressed like that he,d be laughed out of the place

Ah begrudgery is alive and well I see! Sure isn't Joe just dressing like any accomplished author/broadcaster/journalist/actor/amateur psychologist/detective/doctor/comedian/scare mongering salt a dee irth rabble rouser would dress?

At least he ditched the HORRENDOUS red waistcoat that he breaks out on occasion.

Anyone have any idea what Joe's "fee" for his appearance in D'Movie is, or is he on a percentage? Newstalk estimate the MBB franchise will be worth in excess of €100million (not a typo) when the fillum is factored into "de sums".

ThisRegard

brooke 2 wrote: »

I don't agree with this. Terry Dolan's opinion is just that - his own opinion!

I honestly don't know why I find MBB so funny, especially as I detested it the first
time I saw it a few years ago. I now find myself roaring with laughter every time I
watch it, tears literally rolling down my face!!

An enigma, really!!

Signs of early onset dementia ?

CountyHurler

Rumour has it Joe asked the cameraman to photoshop out Dr Quirkey's in the background and replace it with the Gresham.. Also, there was an air of excitement and nervous anticipation last night as news broke of Joe's nomination for an Academy Award in the category of "Best Socialist In A Comedy"...

ThisRegard

We'll have a show today given over to Louis Copeland giving advice to Joe on how to wear a suit. Were the no mirrors in the shop, it's a pretty bad fit.

dvcireland

Hitchens wrote: »

Awright there, Jamesie?

Rab C. Nesbitt: If the Good Lord had wanted us to know about cuisine, he would never have given us crispy pancakes.

Dan Jaman

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Just looking at pics of Joe at d'premeeer on independent.ie - luckily for you all I can't post them. He's got this thing about silk scarves that age him greatly but I'm sure he saw uncle Gaybo with a scarf once and thinks it's the way to go. He's not wearing a belt and his shoes are horribly mismatched and far too casual for the rest of his ensemble. I'll refrain from even discussing the dickie bow. He is severely lacking in the sartorial elegance department.

That is a bit of a dog's dinner, right enough.
Some people can wear a potato sack and make it look elegant, but Joe has succeeded in doing the opposite.

snubbleste

Offensive image reported. :cool:

snubbleste

Today we travel back to 2010

CountyHurler

More vilification of Michael O'Leary / RyanAir..... You're just getting boring and predictable at this stage Joe..

Hamilcar

WhineAir

ButtersSuki

Lahv Lahn on top of "current" affairs again. Yawn.

snubbleste

Oops69

" as you know joe , if you ignore stuff sometimes it just goes away" , nice one val , joe stunned into silence !

ButtersSuki

Phoning Lahv Lahn is "evidence" now in the eyes of Justice Joseph Duffy.

CountyHurler

I couldnt get through that day Joe, you were either giving out about the Shinners or you were talking about model trains..

snubbleste

Oops69 wrote: »

" as you know joe , if you ignore stuff sometimes it just goes away" , nice one val , joe stunned into silence !

I don't get the reference

Hamilcar

da compuder

ThisRegard

I really wish O'Leary comes on one day and makes Joe look like the idiot he is.

Joe is disgusted with the air traffic controllers going back to work so he has to go back 4 years to give out about them.

snubbleste

DoYeNoWharIMeen

my friend

Joe the begrudger

Knocking Ireland's globally competitive greatest business of the last 20 years, perhaps ever.

Joe the bile will destroy your liver.

Keep Hating Joe, it's your strength.

SEPT 23 1989

snubbleste

Dingle? surely Daingean Uí Chúis caller

ButtersSuki

ThisRegard wrote: »

I really wish O'Leary comes on one day and makes Joe look like the idiot he is.

I think the great debater Joe knows O'Leary would destroy him in a debate. IF O'Leary did call in, I doubt the "researchers" would put him through.

Hamilcar

Near ballydavid...............ah that clears things up

ButtersSuki

my friend wrote: »

Joe the begrudger

Knocking Ireland's globally competitive greatest business of the last 20 years, perhaps ever.

Joe the bile will destroy your liver.

Keep Hating Joe, it's your strength.

Keep the Hate……….so to speak.:D

Oops69

Please don't mention a disease , he'll go off on a tangent and it'll be a week of Parkinson's disease

AK333

Joe clearly thinks spending the last few days on the latest French ATC dispute, he's had to go back to the ash cloud

Why not have a poll on what we think should happen to Bugs Bunny Louis Suarez. Hopefully he'll never play professional football again

ButtersSuki

Oops69 wrote: »

Please don't mention a disease , he'll go off on a tangent and it'll be a week of Parkinson's disease

Or Lymes disease, that was a good one. :rolleyes:

my friend

Page 737

And Joe is bashing Ryanair

Won't allow any calls about the striking union members of AerLingus, traffic controllers or other assorted shïtehawks that wilfully try to fuIck you up

snubbleste

Why would she call an air traffic controller to book a flight?

ButtersSuki

I know that I know that I know that……….

snubbleste

"the computers were all in spanish" LOL

ThisRegard

Are we still talking 4 years ago, around about the time this lady started her bloody story ?

ThisRegard

The com-pewter in Pewrto.

AK333

ThisRegard wrote: »

Are we still talking 4 years ago, around about the time this lady started her bloody story ?

:D:D:D

Dan Jaman

What is the beef of these people? They've not been refunded for the ash cloud?
Fer gawd's sake, get on with your lives, people, it's just an experience - enjoy the memories of having to jostle with hot, sweaty Continentals.

Hamilcar

Jesus I'd have walked to Paris in the time this story is told...................... Wrap it up

CountyHurler

The ash cloud is RyanAir's fault as well.?.. I can only assume that the volcano was part of a union as well..