Liveline Thread 27/03/14 to date

Sunnyisland

Lapin wrote: »

Who is she ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Mary_Travers

Daughter and sister of above.

CountyHurler

First cake he ever got that didnt have a file in it..

constitutionus

Shinners must be loving this.

Ya can practically SEE their vote go up.

Lapin

PauloMN wrote: »

Her point is that as long as Adams et al do not completely condemn the activities of the IRA in these murders, she will not trust them (along with many others).

I completely agree with her.

It took her a while to get it across but I agree with her too.

snubbleste

https://twitter.com/GerryAdamsSF/status/463664746391015426/photo/1

Sunnyisland

constitutionus wrote: »

Shinners must be loving this.

Ya can practically SEE their vote go up.

How would there vote being going up with this topic, if anything it be the other way.

Roger_007

Sinn Fein are very reminiscent of the NAZIs in 1930s Germany. They got elected by using populist slogans and nationalist rhetoric. When they got power they revealed their true nature.:eek:

brooke 2

Lapin wrote: »

I have greater respect for her for not forgiving those who murdered her sister.

I don't go in for all this forgive and love lark.

I've met Jo Berry and don't see how forgiving Patrick Magee has moved the peace precess forward one inch.

If it helps her cope, that's fair enough. But those who choose not to forgive should be given the same tolerance.

She makes a good point about the unfairness of putting pressure to forgive on the relatives of those murdered, in order to help the peace process move forward.

AK333

bottlebrush wrote: »

And if it wasn't Gerry Adams, why don't they say it wasn't Gerry Adams - I know they are afraid to say who did it, but why are they afraid to say who didn't do it, unless he did do it..., so to speak

I know there is fear and intimidation but

don't go on sky news and say you know who did it - go to the PSNI, tell them, be a anonymous informer, whatever, but tell what you know

I do not vote for the Shinners and I have no affiliation with them but I don't like slight and innuendo - if you know something say it and if you don't, don't insinuate someone has done something without proof

constitutionus

realies wrote: »

How would there vote being going up with this topic, if anything it be the other way.

Because its JOE .

anyone voting SF has long put this behind them . In their view It could only be better for em if Marion was pushing it .

AK333

Roger_007 wrote: »

Sinn Fein are very reminiscent of the NAZIs in 1930s Germany. They got elected by using populist slogans and nationalist rhetoric. When they got power they revealed their true nature.:eek:

Ah now, that's too much even for Lahnline

Shinners like the Nazis

Gas chambers, heads shaved, yellow Star, hounded into ghettos Really

Park Royal

How many lives would have been saved if Harold Wilson , Ted Heath ,

James Callaghan had done more in relation to Northern Ireland ?....

Leadership ......their legacy is hundreds of people killed , while on their

watch.

An Claidheamh

Roger_007 wrote: »

Sinn Fein are very reminiscent of the NAZIs in 1930s Germany. They got elected by using populist slogans and nationalist rhetoric. When they got power they revealed their true nature.:eek:

Stuff like this only helps their vote go up. :pac:

(nationalist in Ireland = Ireland under Irish rule

nationalist in Germany/France/Britain/Russia = other countries under their rule

Not exactly the same thing).

Lenin Skynard

Roger_007 wrote: »

Sinn Fein are very reminiscent of the NAZIs in 1930s Germany. They got elected by using populist slogans and nationalist rhetoric. When they got power they revealed their true nature.:eek:

Sounds like every political party in Ireland.

Dan Jaman

Two gallons per bath? Gerraway.

JM Skipton

It's all very well talking about conserving water and I am completely for it....but I bet a huge amount of the water charges will go towards paying our massive debt

lucylu

does this man take a bath in the Kitchen sick.. .
reminds me of steptoe

Dan Jaman

JM Skipton wrote: »

It's all very well talking about conserving water and I am completely for it....but I bet a huge amount of the water charges will go towards paying our massive debt

Just paving the way for privatisation.

SEPT 23 1989

lucylu wrote: »

does this man take a bath in the Kitchen sick.. .
reminds me of steptoe

bar of soap and a basin of cold water out the back garden

Roger_007

Park Royal wrote: »

How many lives would have been saved if Harold Wilson , Ted Heath ,

James Callaghan had done more in relation to Northern Ireland ?....

Leadership ......their legacy is hundreds of people killed , while on their

watch.

The only people who can solve the problems of Northern Ireland are the people who live there. Unfortunately they don't seem to want to. They want to stay in their ghettos and insult each other at every opportunity. The Good Friday agreement was a great big fudge which will gradually unravel because attitudes have not changed one iota.

Busted Flat.

Fine Galer.

signostic

Dan Jaman wrote: »

Just paving the way for privatisation.

so when you boil your kettle, flush your loo and have a shower some investor in his penthouse in London, New York or Paris will get their share of what you pay...

An Claidheamh

AK333 wrote: »

Shinners like the Nazis

Gas chambers, heads shaved, yellow Star, hounded into ghettos

Militarism, attacks on immigrants, supremacist marches ...

oh wait that's the loyalists!

Lapin

No need fo her to get snotty with him just because she has an illness.

It's not his fault and he asked a fair question.

Dub.

bottlebrush wrote: »

And if it wasn't Gerry Adams, why don't they say it wasn't Gerry Adams - I know they are afraid to say who did it, but why are they afraid to say who didn't do it, unless he did do it..., so to speak

A McConville sister appeared on BBC Newsnight last week and claimed the family had already passed these names to the PSNI, but the PSNI weren`t interested. The only name they were interested in was Gerry Adams.

An Claidheamh

lucylu wrote: »

does this man take a bath in the Kitchen sick.. .
reminds me of steptoe

Maybe his butler does.

jetfiremuck

Oh ffs....this whole sickness water use etc, all this can be done through tax credits to the people who have illness etc . mountain out of molehill here

An Claidheamh

Compost toilets?

That's a bad line.

signostic

Lapin wrote: »

No need fo her to get snotty with him just because she has an illness.

It's not his fault and he asked a fair question.

ak but he sounds a condescending ............

PauloMN

Hippy on line 4.

SEPT 23 1989

Toilet Revolution maaaaan

JM Skipton

He is quite the salesman is this Old gill?

Roger_007

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Compost toilets?

That's a bad line.

Why not simply sh1te on the compost heap? No need for any complicated gadgets?

Lapin

It's simple.

Under 18s are considered children and are not contributors to household incomes.

Over 18s are adults.

A line has to be drawn somewhere and 18 is the age of distinction for most other things.

Its got nothing to do with conservation awareness.

Lapin

signostic wrote: »

ak but he sounds a condescending ............

He does, but she was very quick to play the victim card there.

They're both as bad as each other.

A typical Liveline set up.

signostic

Why not simply sh1te on the compost heap? No need for any complicated gadgets?

I remember the story about a reporter who went out to farm outside Glasgow which had land that was very stony with poor soil.
When asked how he could improve his land, the farmer suggested that if every resident in Glasgow came to farm picked a stone and had a s**t he would have by have the richest soil in Scotland

CountyHurler

Wasnt she in Far And Away?

DoctorEdgeWild

This lady's voice sounds like a computer text speech program. Excellent!

I wonder how long she spends in the shower.

An Claidheamh

Liquid gold is the nickname for oil not water.

Big C

jetfiremuck wrote: »

Oh ffs....this whole sickness water use etc, all this can be done through tax credits to the people who have illness etc . mountain out of molehill here

lucky you, don't have a serious illness and never will ????

tax credit f all use if u on a disability pension. well thought out

signostic

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Liquid gold is the nickname for oil not water.

perhaps water now will become liquid silver

bigroad

Its the working familys on low income that need an allowance not Pensioners.

artful_codger

You get an allowance already love. It's called disability allowance and carers allowance. How many more allowances do people want?

Lapin

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Liquid gold is the nickname for oil not water.

The day will come when clean drinking water is as scarce as oil.

AK333

Lapin wrote: »

It's simple.

Under 18s are considered children and are not contributors to household incomes.

Over 18s are adults.

A line has to be drawn somewhere and 18 is the age of distinction for most other things.

Its got nothing to do with conservation awareness.

Yes but how do they know you have a child living there - what if the child boards at school? What if it goes between parents in different households? Its a logistic nightmare. Tax credits is a good way, based on child benefit payments

Could this government have made this any more complicated than they did? I doubt it

AK333

Big C wrote: »

lucky you, don't have a serious illness and never will ????

tax credit f all use if u on a disability pension. well thought out

She wasn't though, she said she worked.

DoctorEdgeWild

I give it two weeks before we're trading armoured American muscle cars for water while wearing Mad Max leather ensembles and listening to LiveLive on bicycle powered transmitters.

Alternatively, people will just pay the charges for the water and things will continue on as is.

jetfiremuck

Mooney on a horn...

CarrickMcJoe

signostic wrote: »

perhaps water now will become liquid silver

So long as it doesn't become known as Golden Shower.

Dan Jaman

signostic wrote: »

so when you boil your kettle, flush your loo and have a shower some investor in his penthouse in London, New York or Paris will get their share of what you pay...

I'll box up a turd and send it to them.