Sean Moncrieff - Newstalk

constitutionus

ha ha ha ha

sean trying to tell us today he and his in the media have always been fair on discussions on immigration !

what is the lad smoking at all ?

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kunst nugget

constitutionus wrote: »

ha ha ha ha

sean trying to tell us today he and his in the media have always been fair on discussions on immigration !

what is the lad smoking at all ?

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Tbf, you have Hook on after Moncrieff so that fairly balances things out.

(I'm only after tuning in. What was the conversation about?)

constitutionus

ah i only caught the tail end of it as i was flicking over to liveline.

he was getting all snarky at a texter that pointed out how the subject was persona non grata for fecking years on the national airwaves and he went all revisionist on it.

kunst nugget

constitutionus wrote: »

ah i only caught the tail end of it as i was flicking over to liveline.

he was getting all snarky at a texter that pointed out how the subject was persona non grata for fecking years on the national airwaves and he went all revisionist on it.

Hook is on about it every night of the week as far as I can tell.

constitutionus

an all it took was a thousand strong rape gang of refugees in germany to get us to that enlightened level.

which even then the matt coopers of the worlds will try to defend.

LostinBlanch

He's giving Larissa Nolan a harder ride compared to his usual soft soap interviews to his favourites. I mean how dare she say she hates modern feminism and offend his poor sensibilities?

Then in answering the texts asking why he gave her a hard time, he describes her as patronising while at the same time being more patronising himself.

Snake Plisken

LostinBlanch wrote: »

He's giving Larissa Nolan a harder ride compared to his usual soft soap interviews to his favourites. I mean how dare she say she hates modern feminism and offend his poor sensibilities?

Then in answering the texts asking why he gave her a hard time, he describes her as patronising while at the same time being more patronising himself.

Yeah heard the back end of that interview, He is a male feminist the way he goes on, you would swear he had a vagina the way he goes on!

foxtrot101

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Yeah heard the back end of that interview, He is a male feminist the way he goes on, you would swear he had a vagina the way he goes on!

You would swear he dissed one of your texts the way you go on.

My name is URL

Snake Plisken wrote: »

He is a male feminist the way he goes on

I believe he has said on many occasions that he is a feminist.

It's not a genital specific viewpoint.

Extremists and radicals make every idea look bad

Snake Plisken

foxtrot101 wrote: »

You would swear he dissed one of your texts the way you go on.

Lol yeah right nothing to do with it! his attack on any listener who doesn't share his viewpoint or willing to see other peoples view on a subject the lady he interviewed today regarding feminists he again was so mockingly dismissive of her, it just goes to show his ignorance towards people of differing views!
Also btw he did read out a tweet once but he didn't go full Moncrieff on it he just said something he didn't like about a phrase I used "these people" I think it was!

foxtrot101

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Also btw he did read out a tweet once but he didn't go full Moncrieff on it he just said something he didn't like about a phrase I used "these people" I think it was!

This what you you posted at the time.

I actually had my tweet read out by him I had asked him to ask his guest about the gulf/Saudi rich States had not taken in any Syrian refugees and that it shouldn't be a free for all into Europe. Sean basically took offence to my language use of "Free for all" and asked if I had a daughter would I want to settle in Saudi with their record on sex equaility.
But very dismissive towards my very reasonable tweet!

It's kind of a mute point though. Saudi has never taken in refugees, so you can't blame the refugees for not going there and whose going to force Saudi to accept them. Saudi are not innocent bystanders in the Syrian war either.

I can't really comment on the Larissa Nolan interview, I didn't hear it. I'll probably catch it later on.

Snake Plisken

foxtrot101 wrote: »

This what you you posted at the time.



It's kind of a mute point though. Saudi has never taken in refugees, so you can't blame the refugees for not going there and whose going to force Saudi to accept them. Saudi are not innocent bystanders in the Syrian war either.

I can't really comment on the Larissa Nolan interview, I didn't hear it. I'll probably catch it later on.

Actually it's not and it is what has happened Europe did become a free for all and why would they not go to Saudi or other rich Arab states with a similar culture? Anyway glad you found my post!
Back on topic please listen to the interview today and how totally dismissive he was of her and anyone who texted in to support the lady's standpoint!

Richard Hillman

I have been listening to his show since before they even went national and love a lot of the slots but he has become incredibly insufferable over the last few months. He belittles anybody that doesnt have a SJW mindset with little right of reply. He has become so aggressive in opposing anybody that doesnt have the same views as him. I turned off the feminism "discussion" after about 1-2 minutes, knowing what way it was going to go. His first question was so aggressive in saying "Give me an example" before I belittle you in a passive aggressive way.

Even Hook generally has balance to the show. His opposing texters are usually abusive but for the constructive texts, Hook will engage with it and give them right to reply. Moncrieff usually just gives a snarky reply, that insinuates that the texter is stupid.

Losing Paulo was a big loss to the show too and it has generally gone downhill over the last year.

Say Your Number

I don't think he's anymore contrary with texters than he used to be, anyway those texters that he gets really angry with don't seem all that likeable anyway and deserve all the derision they get.

While he can be a proper arsehole at times, it's a show that still entertains and is educational, so for me the positive comfortably outweighs the negative.

RayM

In fairness, the grumpy, incurious, right-wing old man demographic (i.e. at least 90% of this forum) is very well catered for on Newstalk.

sheep?

Well, now that Ivan is heading back to Wales in July and Uncle George is retiring in September, Denis O'Brien is going to have to get his curmudgeon-radar out soon.

I don't mind Seán's snarkiness, it's kind of entertaining as I don't take it seriously. I certainly don't tune into him for hard hitting journalism. I'm probably not as far left leaning as he is, but I'm definitely not as far right as Hook, so I suppose it balances itself out.

RayM

sheep? wrote: »

Well, now that Ivan is heading back to Wales in July and Uncle George is retiring in September, Denis O'Brien is going to have to get his curmudgeon-radar out soon.

I was just thinking that. It would be a terrible shame if we ended up with a shortage of boorish, over-confident, right-wing old men on the radio. It would be great if one of them was replaced by Dil Wickremasinghe (a left-wing lesbian foreigner), just for the reactions it would provoke on here.

evolving_doors

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I have been listening to his show since before they even went national and love a lot of the slots but he has become incredibly insufferable over the last few months. He belittles anybody that doesnt have a SJW mindset with little right of reply. He has become so aggressive in opposing anybody that doesnt have the same views as him. I turned off the feminism "discussion" after about 1-2 minutes, knowing what way it was going to go. His first question was so aggressive in saying "Give me an example" before I belittle you in a passive aggressive way.

Even Hook generally has balance to the show. His opposing texters are usually abusive but for the constructive texts, Hook will engage with it and give them right to reply. Moncrieff usually just gives a snarky reply, that insinuates that the texter is stupid.

Losing Paulo was a big loss to the show too and it has generally gone downhill over the last year.

In fairness though, her trump card was to use the example of a woman who was attacked in Camden street and claimed it was because she was a woman (if she had read the facts of the case IT WAS!!).

Then she went on to name another female journalist whom she truly admired and thought of as a 'true' feminist. She siad she admired her because she used facts to back up her statements (unlike the woman herslef being interviewed by Sean).... then she went on about 'feeling that she's Octually a Masculinist Feminist' like some overbearing airhead who's drunk at a party, when pressed by Sean as to what 'masculinist feminist' was she hadn't a clue what she was saying.

To my mind, most journalists in the pale do nothing but stroke each other's ego's when put on a Radio station together (as it's such a small world). So he took her on far better than Marion Finucane or Pat Kenny would have... they would have fed her tid-bits of devils advocacy to make her more credible, whereas Sean just asked her outright to explain her thinking.

He's still gets ratty when someone points out his mistakes though.

sheep?

RayM wrote: »

I was just thinking that. It would be a terrible shame if we ended up with a shortage of boorish, over-confident, right-wing old men on the radio. It would be great if one of them was replaced by Dil Wickremasinghe (a left-wing lesbian foreigner), just for the reactions it would provoke on here.

They're probably just going to clone Shane Coleman. :pac:

ballsymchugh

just listened back to it, didn't think the interview was too bad. maybe he took offence to her labelling modern feminists as rabid, which was an affront to caitlin moran, who he seems to jizz over any time she's been on.

foxtrot101

Say Your Number wrote: »

I don't think he's anymore contrary with texters than he used to be, anyway those texters that he gets really angry with don't seem all that likeable anyway and deserve all the derision they get.

While he can be a proper arsehole at times, it's a show that still entertains and is educational, so for me the positive comfortably outweighs the negative.

He admits himself that he can be too smart arsed.

"My biggest fault is a tendency to become sucked into arguments. My defence mechanism is giving a glib answer. I would be better off pausing and giving a better answer."

http://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/features/this-much-i-know-sean-moncrieff-369535.html

That's just one interview, he's said the same thing in a number of other ones I've read. I always quite enjoy the put downs myself. He only ever really has a go at the blatantly offense texts.

mrsdewinter

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I have been listening to his show since before they even went national and love a lot of the slots but he has become incredibly insufferable over the last few months. He belittles anybody that doesnt have a SJW mindset with little right of reply. He has become so aggressive in opposing anybody that doesnt have the same views as him. I turned off the feminism "discussion" after about 1-2 minutes, knowing what way it was going to go. His first question was so aggressive in saying "Give me an example" before I belittle you in a passive aggressive way.

Even Hook generally has balance to the show. His opposing texters are usually abusive but for the constructive texts, Hook will engage with it and give them right to reply. Moncrieff usually just gives a snarky reply, that insinuates that the texter is stupid.

Losing Paulo was a big loss to the show too and it has generally gone downhill over the last year.

Yeah, I hate his style. For a man from the west of Ireland, he's completely forgotten that not *everybody* is well-versed in contemporary feminist theory. It's a pity. He's clever & engaging but it's too easy for his contemporaries to switch off, saying, 'you'd swear he had a vagina himself!!!!'

Also, where can I listen back to that interview with Larissa Nolan. Tried my podcast feed but only 2 items up from today. Please tell me it's *somewhere*!

foxtrot101

mrsdewinter wrote: »

Yeah, I hate his style. For a man from the west of Ireland, he's completely forgotten that not *everybody* is well-versed in contemporary feminist theory. It's a pity. He's clever & engaging but it's too easy for his contemporaries to switch off, saying, 'you'd swear he had a vagina himself!!!!'

Also, where can I listen back to that interview with Larissa Nolan. Tried my podcast feed but only 2 items up from today. Please tell me it's *somewhere*!

http://www.newstalk.com/listen_back/

ballsymchugh

foxtrot101 wrote: »

http://www.newstalk.com/listen_back/

part 4, just after the news

LostinBlanch

Snake Plisken wrote: »

his attack on any listener who doesn't share his viewpoint or willing to see other peoples view on a subject the lady he interviewed today regarding feminists he again was so mockingly dismissive of her, it just goes to show his ignorance towards people of differing views!
Also btw he did read out a tweet once but he didn't go full Moncrieff on it he just said something he didn't like about a phrase I used "these people" I think it was!

He's said before that he's a feminist so I wasn't expecting him to have an honest debate. I bet Larissa Nolan was expecting him to do his usual soft soap interview that he does with 99.9% of all other interviewees. Well she knows now that if you offend his delicate sensitivities he's going to go for you. I think his grumpiness might be the dawning realisation that not everybody automatically thinks the way he does, and no amount of speaking down to them and being glib and snarky to them works.

Funnily enough I don't remember him getting so animated about the homeless crisis.

Edit: He's done a good piece on homelessness and children today so fair play and praise where it's due.

LostinBlanch

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tommyboy2222

Sean with his anyone who supports Trump is a stupid white American male rant in his first sentence today :rolleyes:

My name is URL

tommyboy2222 wrote: »

Sean with his anyone who supports Trump is a stupid white American male rant in his first sentence today :rolleyes:

He's right

I haven't heard any reasoned or intelligent arguments in support of him or his policies, have you? Perhaps you could share them...

If you want to get an idea of the average intelligence of a Trump supporter, look at his campaign page on Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/

Dank memes and insults is all they can muster. There's no discussion about how his policies would work in practice.

Calling them stupid is putting it lightly

tommyboy2222

tommyboy2222 wrote: »

Sean with his anyone who supports Trump is a stupid white American male rant in his first sentence today :rolleyes:

He's dead right.
Who in their right mind could support Donald Trump as president of America?

mrsdewinter

LostinBlanch wrote: »

He's said before that he's a feminist so I wasn't expecting him to have an honest debate. I bet Larissa Nolan was expecting him to do his usual soft soap interview that he does with 99.9% of all other interviewees. Well she knows now that if you offend his delicate sensitivities he's going to go for you. I think his grumpiness might be the dawning realisation that not everybody automatically thinks the way he does, and no amount of speaking down to them and being glib and snarky to them works.

Having listened to it, I think Sean was pretty nice to her. She's deluded: her solution to male oppression is 'write an article for the Indo', completely overlooking the privilege she enjoys as a highly educated, middle-class woman working in the Dublin media.