Sky eye up the All Ireland championship matches?

WesternZulu

Darran O'Sullivan makes a good point on twitter:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=676827025717223&set=a.534460716620522.1073741824.168593599873904&type=1&theater

Am I the only one excited about what SKY could do for the GAA globally? They've made a big sport out of darts & that's 2 fat lads on stage.

Something to think about :pac:

Hidalgo

munchkin_utd wrote: »

you obviously have no problems with the league being on subscription TV behind a pay wall, you seem to think its a good thing - so why do you and others have such a problem with some (a minority) of games being on sky?

The section you have highlighted is about the poster enjoying watching the league with his kids, not all league matches are on PPV, TG4 carry a live game every Sunday and follow this with a game on deferred coverage.

Sheldons Brain

-As somebody pointed out the league games on Setanta are already pay per view.

People keep on ranting about Setanta. Hundreds of thousands of people have Setanta on their basic cable package and do not have to pay extra to see these games.

harpsman

Sheldons Brain wrote: »

People keep on ranting about Setanta. Hundreds of thousands of people have Setanta on their basic cable package and do not have to pay extra to see these games.

So what,they still pay for it. And more people dont have Setanta on their basic package.

ThisRegard

Sheldons Brain wrote: »

People keep on ranting about Setanta. Hundreds of thousands of people have Setanta on their basic cable package and do not have to pay extra to see these games.

And as many don't have Setanta as part of their basic package.

shockframe

WesternZulu wrote: »

Darran O'Sullivan makes a good point on twitter:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=676827025717223&set=a.534460716620522.1073741824.168593599873904&type=1&theater


Something to think about :pac:

O'Sullivan may not realise that it took darts well over a decade before it became a big success on sky and that the early years were a bit of a disaster in retrospect. The early years had some absolute no-hopers involved and it was only when Barry Hearn took over in 2001 that it became what it is now. Sky was a factor in the success but it was far from the main reason why darts took off.

A promoter like Hearn,Don King, or even David Stern of the NBA would be something the GAA could do with.The lads on Primetime last night wouldn't inspire confidence.

harpsman

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Where did this €162 figure come from?

TV licence/Tubs,joe and marian tax

WesternZulu

shockframe wrote: »

A promoter like Hearn,Don King, or even David Stern of the NBA would be something the GAA could do with.The lads on Primetime last night wouldn't inspire confidence.

You're right there...I think that Liam O'Neill thinks the world just might end if he ever managed to crack a smile in public!

keane2097

Sheldons Brain wrote: »

People keep on ranting about Setanta. Hundreds of thousands of people have Setanta on their basic cable package and do not have to pay extra to see these games.

So basically if you already have the channel you don't give a **** yourself is what most people seem to be saying. The UPC service costs me about 70 quid a month like, you'd swear Sky were bleeding us dry while UPC were giving it away for nothing.

Hidalgo

A.J.Plumb wrote: »

Oh Dear !

To promote anything abroad ...you need money...to do it properly like !

News for you ..the GAA is not top of the agenda in far flung parts...they have other sports ..like tennis/ cricket / hockey / basketball/netball/athletics/rugby / soccer/golf/sailing.

To break into these markets you need ...yes yov'e guessed it ...MONEY!

And promotion...hence the deal with SKY...money + promotion.

Join the dots buddy .......

While growing the GAA in China or Fiji would be great, promotion at home is far more important. With 'competition' from rugby/soccer etc, the GAA needs to ensure that young people on this island take up and continue to play/be involved in GAA.

omega666

Because sky is gona show some games in Britain do people think it will spread like wildfire and there will be boat loads of English lads coming over to watch wexford vs clare!!. The games will be shown on lowly sky sports 3 and will only be watched mainly by a few irish ex pats who happen to be from the county involved in the game.

Meanwhile at home the viewer ratings will plummet exactly like it did with the rugby and football when Sky bought those rights.

harpsman

Hidalgo wrote: »

While growing the GAA in China or Fiji would be great, promotion at home is far more important. With 'competition' from rugby/soccer etc, the GAA needs to ensure that young people on this island take up and continue to play/be involved in GAA.

I dont think theres much to worry about. And also,I think obsessing about "competition" from soccer and rugby is a bit insular and backward. Theres far more "competition" from ipads and ps4s. Lets get kids out playin sport-any sport for their own health and fun and not get too obsessed about what sport theyre playin-theres plenty of kids to go round-Irelands the most fertile country in Europw at the moment!

shockframe

omega666 wrote: »

Because sky is gona show some games in Britain do people think it will spread like wildfire and there will be boat loads of English lads coming over to watch wexford vs clare!!. The games will be shown on lowly sky sports 3 and will only be watched mainly by a few irish ex pats who happen to be from the county involved in the game.

Meanwhile at home the viewer ratings will plummet exactly like it did with the rugby and football when Sky bought those rights.

Ratings may go down for the early rounds but were they ever that high to begin with.If you think a Dublin-Cork/tyrone/Kerry/Meath game that would be on sky would be ignored you may be surprised.

The comparison with Rugby is a bit naive because Rugby has 2 main competitions - The Heineken Cup and the 6 nations.The club scene has all but gone.

In Contrast the GAA has an outlet for Clubs/Schools/Colleges and Inter-County across 2 sports so has any negative impact would be minimal.Any deal with Sky will hardly do the damage provinces did to clubs in Rugby.

More than any sport GAA is connected from top to bottom across club and county across many age groups and communities. It may not provide professionalism but it does have a strong role in Education and providing an outlet for players to improve socially and in school/college.

Rugby is after a boom in Ireland but its not where it was in the noughties.You can point to the 6 nations win recently but Leinster/Munster in October was barely half full and that was on Irish TV.A pandering media is doing its best to keep it affloat but it's struggling.

Hurling/Gaelic Football are also the national games so similar to Soccer in England will never become a fad here.

You could barely watch a handful of games before the Mid-90s so any coverage is better than none.

Hidalgo

harpsman wrote: »

I dont think theres much to worry about. And also,I think obsessing about "competition" from soccer and rugby is a bit insular and backward. Theres far more "competition" from ipads and ps4s. Lets get kids out playin sport-any sport for their own health and fun and not get too obsessed about what sport theyre playin-theres plenty of kids to go round-Irelands the most fertile country in Europw at the moment!

I'm completely in favour of kids trying their hands at as many sports as possible, keeps them fit and healthy with the added benefit of teaching them about teamwork, hard work and rewards.
I'm guessing part of the reason why Sky was chosen was to compete with other sports for market share.

It's the top brass that have been on about growing the GAA globally, personally I think it would be better to see more effort put into growing the games at home, especially in counties where one code is very weak first before we attempt to take over the world.

Evan DietrichSmith

omega666 wrote: »

Because sky is gona show some games in Britain do people think it will spread like wildfire and there will be boat loads of English lads coming over to watch wexford vs clare!!. The games will be shown on lowly sky sports 3 and will only be watched mainly by a few irish ex pats who happen to be from the county involved in the game.

Meanwhile at home the viewer ratings will plummet exactly like it did with the rugby and football when Sky bought those rights.

People are not that stupid pal

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All staff at tv3 have been offered redundancy apparently, looks like the beginning of the end there so maybe they were never a contender this year

RoyalCelt

omega666 wrote: »

Because sky is gona show some games in Britain do people think it will spread like wildfire and there will be boat loads of English lads coming over to watch wexford vs clare!!. The games will be shown on lowly sky sports 3 and will only be watched mainly by a few irish ex pats who happen to be from the county involved in the game.

Meanwhile at home the viewer ratings will plummet exactly like it did with the rugby and football when Sky bought those rights.

It will help the 300 clubs abroad no end and I would be surprised if that number double or trebled over the next 5 years. You could have a situation in 20 years where there are more GAA clubs abroad then at home. I mean London already have more than some counties.

It won't spread like wildfire but it could hold it's own and become self sustaining for when the emigrants stop flowing (for 20 years) until the next recession.

RoyalCelt

nm wrote: »

All staff at tv3 have been offered redundancy apparently, looks like the beginning of the end there so maybe they were never a contender this year

When you put it that way I think the GAA would want to jump onto a sinking ship. I'm sure they would have taken sky anyway but TV3 along with their poor coverage was a bad choice. UTV would have more chance of getting GAA matches in future than TV3!

Also little being said about their weekly weds highlights package over the summer. Really looking forward to what sky do with this. rte's has gone to the dogs in recent years.

nice_guy80

I still think a separate GAA online TV channel is the way to go.

Flat fee per year for coverage from anywhere in the world.

RoyalCelt

nice_guy80 wrote: »

I still think a separate GAA online TV channel is the way to go.

Flat fee per year for coverage from anywhere in the world.

they're going to see how sky pans out over the next 3 years. if it doesn't work they will go down that path i'd imagine.

munchkin_utd

nice_guy80 wrote: »

I still think a separate GAA online TV channel is the way to go.

Flat fee per year for coverage from anywhere in the world.

That's more or less what is planned with the pay per view (I.e. Subscription) streaming service that rte will provide for people outside of Ireland

davegrohl48

Would be good to see someone like Emmet Ryan as an analyst on every broadcast. He is ahead of all in knowledge of the modern game. His prediction of winners each week pretty impressive over last few years. His video work is not bad for self produced.

munchkin_utd

nm wrote: »

All staff at tv3 have been offered redundancy apparently, looks like the beginning of the end there so maybe they were never a contender this year

Which shows what a serious player UTV will be when they launch their station in the republic.
Who is to say that they wont be interested in a 32county rights purchase of the Sky OR possibly main package of rights?

RTE isnt exactly the most GAA friendly station at the moment with their sh1t stirring about the GAA rights.
Martin Breheny has a nice article on it here in todays indo:
[Indo Article]Self-interest behind RTE's lack of balance on 'live' issue

Hidalgo

A season pass to view online is something that's probably coming down the line Major League Baseball have a package similar, if the GAA do so in future, they would need to have cameras at all games imo to really sell it. If there's 4 qualifier games on a Saturday evening, all four would have to be available to stream online.

Before the rumblings of the Sky deal surfaced, I had the notion that when ITV/UTV went national that they would make a bid for TV3's games.

Shady Tady

Given the way RTE have wasted the TV licence money paying Joe Duffy and other presenters more than Obama and other world leaders I'm delighted they have got a kick up the hole,

munchkin_utd

Hidalgo wrote: »

A season pass to view online is something that's probably coming down the line Major League Baseball have a package similar, if the GAA do so in future, they would need to have cameras at all games imo to really sell it. If there's 4 qualifier games on a Saturday evening, all four would have to be available to stream online.

Before the rumblings of the Sky deal surfaced, I had the notion that when ITV/UTV went national that they would make a bid for TV3's games.

the previous streaming options by Premier Sports, aka Setanta, had a season pass and per game option for USA (100dollar+ and 15/20dollar per game respectively) - and the rest of the world was a tenner stg a month cancellable at any time.

Those options though only ever showed what was in Ireland with a small addition of a couple of games, last year being the 2 London games and the Dublin Kilkenny championship game IIRC.

BUT- the cameras are at most games sending a live signal back to HQ with commentary so technically speaking it should be possible to greatly increase the number of games available abroad if the will was there. (theres a boards thread here on how to recieve these feeds with expensive specialist satelite equipment and buckets of paitence, which prooves the existance of these feeds)

corny

kksaints wrote: »

The QFs attractiveness depend on whos in it. If its a match involving Dublin or two heavyweights then theres a chance it will affect demand otherwise it wont.

Just on that point does Sky or RTE have first pick of the QFs or is it already determined who will show what QF.

Hidalgo

munchkin_utd wrote: »

the previous streaming options by Premier Sports, aka Setanta, had a season pass and per game option for USA (100dollar+ and 15/20dollar per game respectively) - and the rest of the world was a tenner stg a month cancellable at any time.

Those options though only ever showed what was in Ireland with a small addition of a couple of games, last year being the 2 London games and the Dublin Kilkenny championship game IIRC.

BUT- the cameras are at most games sending a live signal back to HQ with commentary so technically speaking it should be possible to greatly increase the number of games available abroad if the will was there. (theres a boards thread on how to recieve these feeds with specialist satelite equipment)

That's saucey enough price wise. The MLB package is around $129 for the season or $20 a month. That gives the member the choice to view any game on any given day. Also factor in that there's 162 games in a regular season.

For a GAA pass to really work, they will have to go beyond what you have described and give viewers the option to see whatever game they choose whenever there are time clashes.

bruschi

Hidalgo wrote: »

Do you really think RTE can compete financially with Sky, any figures that RTE can put together, Sky will be well able to beat, if it comes down to a bidding war, RTE will come 2nd to Sky

Broadband/high speed internet isn't exactly country-wide

My reason being is why would sky buy the rights if they werent going to have viewership. It would not be in their interest to buy out RTE as many do not or will not get sky sports so it wouldnt make sense for them to be the only provider in the market. In any case, it would never happen. Of course they could outbid RTE, but they wouldnt, nor would they be let.

Fixed line broadband is available to 94% of the country. this is fact. I myself am part of the 6% who can not, nor can I ever, I have been told by the wonderful Eircom, have a fixed line broadband. So I am reliant on satelite broadband, and with the national broadband and also the rural broadband scheme, most if not all people have access to broadband. the average download speed for people on fixed lines is 6mbs, which is more than enough for a stream on RTE player, sky go and other players. My satelite broadband, on a basic package is 15mbs. Yes, its not exactly high speed, but its absolutely perfect to stream games, which I regularly do.

munchkin_utd

Hidalgo wrote: »

That's saucey enough price wise. The MLB package is around $129 for the season or $20 a month. That gives the member the choice to view any game on any given day. Also factor in that there's 162 games in a regular season.

For a GAA pass to really work, they will have to go beyond what you have described and give viewers the option to see whatever game they choose whenever there are time clashes.

the setanta streaming package in the US was a scandal, a rip off and exploitation of a captive fan base whose only other alternative was to pay $20 admission to a pub

But the marketing of it was equally as scandalous even for the more reasonable non-US service. Sure even Sports minister Leo Varadkar was on last night on Newstalk lamenting the lack of a streaming option last year when he was looking to catch a game in Spain - when premier sports had a very good service there all along that nobody knew about!!

Hidalgo

bruschi wrote: »

My reason being is why would sky buy the rights if they werent going to have viewership. It would not be in their interest to buy out RTE as many do not or will not get sky sports so it wouldnt make sense for them to be the only provider in the market. In any case, it would never happen. Of course they could outbid RTE, but they wouldnt, nor would they be let.

Fixed line broadband is available to 94% of the country. this is fact. I myself am part of the 6% who can not, nor can I ever, I have been told by the wonderful Eircom, have a fixed line broadband. So I am reliant on satelite broadband, and with the national broadband and also the rural broadband scheme, most if not all people have access to broadband. the average download speed for people on fixed lines is 6mbs, which is more than enough for a stream on RTE player, sky go and other players. My satelite broadband, on a basic package is 15mbs. Yes, its not exactly high speed, but its absolutely perfect to stream games, which I regularly do.

If Sky can make money by outbidding RTE why wouldn't they?
Whose to stop them, RTE would be in no position to do so, as of now its only the AI finals (or maybe semis as well) that are covered by government legislation for FTA.

If Sky want more of the market share, the decision will rest with the GAA, its the GAA that will decide whether SKy 'will be let'

If, as you say Sky don't have the viewership, why bother getting into the market at all? It might make more financial sense for Sky to gain as much control as possible of the market, that way more and more viewers might be inclined to sign up to Sky. If its onlly 14 games a summer on Sky, why bother as you have plenty other games on FTA, if however it was 30 games on Sky and only 14 on RTE people might be more inclined to get a Sky package as the more games Sky have exclusive access to, the better value their package becomes.

You argue that it would make little financial sense for Sky to be the only provider in the market. IMO it makes perfect sense to be the only provider.

Do you think Sky would prefer a complete monopoly on the premiership or having to compete with BT?

If you are the only one selling a product, you have the consumer where you want them.



*The above is entirely hypothetical of course, in 3 years time if Sky aren't making money, they'll more than likely pull the plug

Oldtree

Given the amount of live streaming channels available on the web of sports channels there really is no issue here. I cannot see many new subscriptions in this and I think it is an aful decision by the GAA.

All you need is one of these to show your computer screen on the TV (choose a length of cable to suit):
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/130840459373?var=430263024569&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Connect the cable up from the pc to the TV, set the pc to 2 screens, change the input on the tv to HDMI1 and bob's your uncle.

Elmo

A.J.Plumb wrote: »

Plus one on this one ..the GAA has for long been bombarded by Heineken Cup Rugby/Premier League and Champions League Soccer + Olympic games etc...etc.

They have seen the need to broaden their horizons and ditch the "uber culchie" image of their broadcasters/ commentators.

The GAA needs to free itself of the stultifying confines of a small island and bring it's wares to a wider audience .

The days of pandering to the bachelor farmers in rural Ireland are over .... let's move on .

Just because your not using a word such as "Unsophisticated" does not mean that when you describe the GAA's rural/local/community/family roots as uber culchie image of their broadcaster/commentators, pandering to bachelor farmers, your not basically saying its unsophisticated for the wider audience.

IMO Irish broadcast presentation of the games are not culchie and the GAA pander to a very wide audience in this small Island.

I agree the GAA need to move outside the confines of this small Island. They will do this through their Seven Network, RTÉ Digital and Sky deals. However the Sky deal goes too far by putting 14 games behind a paywall. That paywall in Ireland will not make the GAA better or worse.

TV3 have financial problems and have made a number of mistakes in the past year.

The licence fee is €160, many older people don't pay a licence fee.

Squareball

munchkin_utd wrote: »

the setanta streaming package in the US was a scandal, a rip off and exploitation of a captive fan base whose only other alternative was to pay $20 admission to a pub

But the marketing of it was equally as scandalous even for the more reasonable non-US service. Sure even Sports minister Leo Varadkar was on last night on Newstalk lamenting the lack of a streaming option last year when he was looking to catch a game in Spain - when premier sports had a very good service there all along that nobody knew about!!

While the price was a little high for Premier Sports in the USA the bigger issue was the quality of the feed. The service was unreliable at best and the quality of the feed was not great at all.

munchkin_utd

Squareball wrote: »

While the price was a little high for Premier Sports in the USA the bigger issue was the quality of the feed. The service was unreliable at best and the quality of the feed was not great at all.

they moved to Ustream last year and it was spot on to be honest.
I watched the Monaghan quarter final last year and it was perfect and the Cavan game the day after was perfect once I could find a decent wifi connection in the place i was on holidays at in Italy.

keane2097

davegrohl48 wrote: »

Would be good to see someone like Emmet Ryan as an analyst on every broadcast. He is ahead of all in knowledge of the modern game. His prediction of winners each week pretty impressive over last few years. His video work is not bad for self produced.

+1

Would certainly never happen on RTE.

mconigol

This is great news from the GAA and is long overdue. Now is the perfect time for this deal to take place due to the massive increase in interest in GAA internationally and the gaps in Sky Sports schedule due to the emergence of BT. There are clubs popping up all over the world in recent years, partly driven by emigration. That won't last forever however so I think there is a unique set of circumstances emerging right now which offer the potential to expand the audience for the games.

There are, for example, 40 clubs in New York and 31 in London as well as numerous clubs all over Europe, Australia, US and Asia. In comparison there are only 27 clubs in Longford! http://www.joe.ie/gaa/gaa-news/infographic-the-number-of-gaa-clubs-in-every-county-in-ireland-and-every-continent-around-the-world/

As someone playing football abroad it is great to finally see some action being taken on the vast potential there is out there for gaelic games. Those of us involved spend a great deal of money and travel thousands of km's (our closest neighboring club is 300km away) just to get to games and build the association.

There are a small army of volunteers putting in the ground work for this worldwide and it would be foolish not to recognize the potential and try to capitalize and build on that. There is huge GAA network spreading around the globe and the GAA are right to try take advantage of that. This is hopefully the first step.

People back home have no entitlement to every game free-to-air. It has been a nice luxury available to people for many years however just as you can be charged to attend actual games, so too you can you be charged to view the same game from your living room. Many of the weaker counties hardly ever have a televised game and many games aren't televised at all so there is no difference. When that's the case you have three choices (1) Go to the game (2) Listen to it on the radio or (3) Read about it the next day in the paper.

These 14 games that Sky have are no different and in fact things are far better since there still are several alternative for actually seeing these games by either paying for a subscription to sky, using their app, going to a friends/neighbors house or going to a pub (or other venue which might show the games)

rockonollie

Hidalgo wrote: »

A season pass to view online is something that's probably coming down the line Major League Baseball have a package similar, if the GAA do so in future, they would need to have cameras at all games imo to really sell it. If there's 4 qualifier games on a Saturday evening, all four would have to be available to stream online.

Before the rumblings of the Sky deal surfaced, I had the notion that when ITV/UTV went national that they would make a bid for TV3's games.

Which would require huge investment......RTE don't have hoards of cameras to set up at every ground on a busy weekend early in the season.....there's also the issue of providing commentary.

MLB have the infastructure, every team has their own local TV network with cameras and commentators at the game.....MLB.tv picks up the feed from them. There is also the option with MLB.tv to watch the TV feed, but use the audio from the radio broadcast......this may be a cheaper option if they were to go down that path.

Hidalgo

rockonollie wrote: »

Which would require huge investment......RTE don't have hoards of cameras to set up at every ground on a busy weekend early in the season.....there's also the issue of providing commentary.

MLB have the infastructure, every team has their own local TV network with cameras and commentators at the game.....MLB.tv picks up the feed from them. There is also the option with MLB.tv to watch the TV feed, but use the audio from the radio broadcast......this may be a cheaper option if they were to go down that path.

I agree that camera and equipment would be an issue in early summer as you could have 5 games on the same Sunday.

It would though be the best way of making a streaming service most successful.

rockonollie

Hidalgo wrote: »

I agree that camera and equipment would be an issue in early summer as you could have 5 games on the same Sunday.

It would though be the best way of making a streaming service most successful.

Maybe that's what their planning on using 3 years of Sky money for......

Then again, that's a good idea, and we know the GAA aren't great with good ideas

lertsnim

Shady Tady wrote: »

Given the way RTE have wasted the TV licence money paying Joe Duffy and other presenters more than Obama and other world leaders I'm delighted they have got a kick up the hole,

How have they gotten a kick up the hole? Same number of games as before?

Squareball

munchkin_utd wrote: »

they moved to Ustream last year and it was spot on to be honest.
I watched the Monaghan quarter final last year and it was perfect and the Cavan game the day after was perfect once I could find a decent wifi connection in the place i was on holidays at in Italy.

Was home from the US for the All Ireland Club Final last year. I set up a bunch of lads to watch it from here.......ten minutes in they lost the signal, could not get it back. I tried to watch last years All Ireland Football final, first hald was fine second half spotty at best. Just not reliable.

Hidalgo

rockonollie wrote: »

Maybe that's what their planning on using 3 years of Sky money for......

Then again, that's a good idea, and we know the GAA aren't great with good ideas

Fairly sure Liam O' Neill said that the figures from Sky aren't that much different from what has been received from TV3 so going by that the GAA won't be fluch with cash simply from the Sky deal.

Perhaps though, Sky is seen as a safer deal than TV3, with ITV comin on down south, there may be fears within the GAA regarding TV3 future ability to pitch for a block of games

rockonollie

Squareball wrote: »

Was home from the US for the All Ireland Club Final last year. I set up a bunch of lads to watch it from here.......ten minutes in they lost the signal, could not get it back. I tried to watch last years All Ireland Football final, first hald was fine second half spotty at best. Just not reliable.

Happened to our club here for last years football final........bar had paid for the game, charged a cover for everyone to get in, and the signal quit after the first few minutes.

The bar ended up giving everyone free breakfast......thankfully they're one of the sponsors of the GAA club and almost everyone in attendance was a member so the relationship is pretty good and there was nobody too upset.

maestroamado

I asked earlier but did not get reply.... does anyone know if there will be any live matches on rte on the same day as sky are broadcasting their games..... I mean the ones in june as the semis and finals are on both.... I assume highlights are the same....

thanks

munchkin_utd

maestroamado wrote: »

I asked earlier but did not get reply.... does anyone know if there will be any live matches on rte on the same day as sky are broadcasting their games..... I mean the ones in june as the semis and finals are on both.... I assume highlights are the same....

thanks

10 of the sky matches are on a saturday (and of that 8 are qualifiers, so 2 good reasons why the deal is far from as terrible as folks are crying about)
the other 4 are on a sunday when theres normally 2 games on anyhow so you'll have no Sunday without a game to be watching.

iDave

munchkin_utd wrote: »

10 of the sky matches are on a saturday (and of that 8 are qualifiers, so 2 good reasons why the deal is far from as terrible as folks are crying about)
the other 4 are on a sunday when theres normally 2 games on anyhow so you'll have no Sunday without a game to be watching.

It is terrible....rabble rabble...PPV....rabble rabble...kids in pubs....rabble rabble...amature ethos gone....rabble rabble...out of touch....rabble rabble...

mariano rivera

Here is my tuppence worth


1.RTE's coverage has been shambolic at times. See Brolly Slouching. If he was working for me (not that anyone works for me) he would get a kick in the arse for the way he was sitting.

The cring inducing rant of Eamon O Hara or Marty's Committee room on thursday. (Or what is should be called, 4 man sit in a room and talk about a little bit of GAH)

No harm for RTE to get a kick in their arse to lift their game

GAA sport is a quality product. RTE's coverage is not

Alot of this stuff has been amateurish


2. If anyone is worried about some old lad down the road with no SKY TV and he wont be able to see the match, well


Call him up, Drive down, pick him up, bring up to your house, cook some dinner and give him a couple of bottles if he so wishes and drop him hom eafter

Alternatively, maybe bring him down the pub

keane2097

mariano rivera wrote: »

2. If anyone is worried about some old lad down the road with no SKY TV and he wont be able to see the match, well


Call him up, Drive down, pick him up, bring up to your house, cook some dinner and give him a couple of bottles if he so wishes and drop him hom eafter

Alternatively, maybe bring him down the pub

This!

Prop Joe

mariano rivera wrote: »

2. If anyone is worried about some old lad down the road with no SKY TV and he wont be able to see the match, well


Call him up, Drive down, pick him up, bring up to your house, cook some dinner and give him a couple of bottles if he so wishes and drop him home after

Alternatively, maybe bring him down the pub

What an ignorant comment