Gambling

uch

Does anyone else get that feeling when they place a bet, that you can't possibly lose ? But you still do. Fuk the feeling

AH92

That's how I lost 300 quid yesterday.... started with 50 squid a week back and was on a good streak! Seen a potential guaranteed bet went against my never place more than 50 percent rule as I got too greedy and kapooof.

Tin Foil Hat

uch wrote: »

Does anyone else get that feeling when they place a bet, that you can't possibly lose ?

Nah! No-one except for Paddy Power.

131spanner

I remember how stupid I felt after losing €40 on the "three card trick", run by reputable gentlemen at the Ploughing Championships :rolleyes:

In the grand scheme of things it was a pretty small loss, but it kind of turned me off betting and I haven't really put money on anything since

Mr. Incognito

If you tell someone they have won a tenner but can gamble it to double their money on a fifty fifty they generally will.

However if you tell someone they can buy a fifty fifty chance to win twenty bucks for a tenner they will tell you that you get lost. However tell them you will refund the tenner too and they throw money at you.

Moral. People are stupid. Gambling is rigged. Even if you win they ban you.

Basin DePlayce

Every week I feel like im going to win the Euromillions, some times I even buy a ticket

hfallada

It's weird how no one sees the lotto or scratch cards as gambling in Ireland. You will see old women spending €5 a day on scratch cards for the craic. Not seeing anything wrong with it. But the fact that it normalised through nice advertising and that you don't have to go to a stinky bookies makes it completely acceptable

Tin Foil Hat

hfallada wrote: »

It's weird how no one sees the lotto or scratch cards as gambling in Ireland. You will see old women spending €5 a day on scratch cards for the craic. Not seeing anything wrong with it. But the fact that it normalised through nice advertising and that you don't have to go to a stinky bookies makes it completely acceptable

You've never seen a gambler, have you?

dobman88

uch wrote: »

Does anyone else get that feeling when they place a bet, that you can't possibly lose ? But you still do. Fuk the feeling

I like to gamble, it's good entertainment for me but anyone with the attitude of "this can't lose" shouldn't gamble. You're losing before you start. Of course ANY bet can lose.

The Backwards Man

Gambling is all about kicks.

When you win, you kick yourself you hadn't more on it.

When you lose, you kick yourself you hadn't less on it.

cruais

House ALWAYS wins. ...

*pity I don't keep reminding myself that.

Sunglasses Ron

hfallada wrote: »

you don't have to go to a stinky bookies makes it completely acceptable

Bookies are all soft carpet and air freshener these days. They look like the reception at a Travelodge.

I miss the dank of it all. Newspaper pages pinned to the walls, smoke in the air, crappy old TVs. Those dumps had character :pac:

J. Marston

Tiny stakes, huge accumulators. Can't go wrong.

Except when you lose. Which will be often.

amkin25

well speaking of gambling anyone got any decent bets for tomorrow football horses anything that might win lol

sunilbj

where that the match

amkin25

villa to beat united 7/1 easy money

DEFTLEFTHAND

No I always get the opposite feeling, like I'm flushing the money down the toilet. I used to bet on football a bit in college and went to a few greyhound meets with people I knew who were into it. The odd time I might still have a flutter, jump on the bandwagon for the Grand National or a big boxing match.


I just never took to it as a regular thing, it's not in me, I picked up nearly every other vice like a duck to water but not gambling. :pac:

Duffman K

Sometimes having even just a small bet on say a football match for example, makes watching it a lot more exciting.

Things like betting on football matches or horse races are usually grand in moderation, IMO betting on greyhounds is too unpredictable and is just a tax on stupidity.

Gambling is grand for a bit of fun, but when you're placing bets every day and trying to make an income from it that's when the problem starts. Most people who gamble will lose, otherwise bookies wouldn't be so profitable.

mfergus

Lost 200 on a game of poker the other night... had aa, got the full house (3 aces 2 Queens).
Lost to 4 of a kind Queens. Sickened

There's no such thing as a sure bet! I'm glad that all I had was 200. If I could I would have put my house on that one!

murpho999

Look at all the ads on TV for Paddy Power, Bet 365, Ladbrokes etc.

I think gambling is the next social problem that is not really been looked at now but will be in the future.

ArtyM

amkin25 wrote: »

villa to beat united 7/1 easy money

Its looking like easy money for the bookie.

Cork Lass

mfergus wrote: »

Lost 200 on a game of poker the other night... had aa, got the full house (3 aces 2 Queens).
Lost to 4 of a kind Queens. Sickened

There's no such thing as a sure bet! I'm glad that all I had was 200. If I could I would have put my house on that one!

How could that be. You had 2 queens and lost to 4 of a kind (queens).
I'm confused.

The One Who Knocks

Cork Lass wrote: »

How could that be. You had 2 queens and lost to 4 of a kind (queens).
I'm confused.

No he had AA, the two queens were on the table and the other person obviously had the other two.

Spunge

Never bet more than you are willing to lose.

biko

Gambling has destroyed many families.




Wanna bet?

The_Kew_Tour

Gambling is a huge problem.

I know guys who who put the keys of the house on the table on one card, as their children and wife were asleep at home.

You can only drink so much, but you can risk losing far greater in less then 20 seconds on a bet.

Aidric

Always go with your gut instinct and never chase your losses. It should at least keep you at break even point.

dxhound2005

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Gambling is a huge problem.

I know guys who who put the keys of the house on the table on one card, as their children and wife were asleep at home.

You can only drink so much, but you can risk losing far greater in less then 20 seconds on a bet.

That sounds extraordinary. If they were in a casino they couldn't wager with a set of keys. If it was a private card game how would the other party go about taking possession of the house?

And you know of multiple cases. I lead a sheltered life. Of course they stood to win the value of their house as well. How many won and how many were made homeless?

BetterThanThou

Not big on gambling, very rarely will I put a bet on that I'm confident will win, as usually the odds make the bet not worth putting on. However, sometimes I see the odds are like 40/1, yet I think they have an outside chance, and I'll put a few euro on it, but never more than a fiver, and I'm never expecting they'll win.

Played in the casino with a few friends in Galway a few times but would never take more than €10-20 with me. Soon as I was up €5 or so I'd think it was time to get some food and head home. Of the three of us who would head down, on lad would keep going and going trying to win any loses back. Wasn't uncommon for him to lose €50 in 10 minutes and then have to borrow money for a take away.

When they were moving house they pulled out the TV cabinet and piled high was 6 months worth of losing bets belonging to the lad who felt that the only way was up. Must have been at least 300 crumpled up slips and from talking to him he reckoned he'd lost over €2,000 gambling I'm soccer and horses.

Awhile back I was doing a course and there was a guy who would complain that he didn't have the price of lunch. He'd borrow money but would always lay it back. Asked him one day where his money went and his answer was simple, "casinos". He owes money all over galway and on nights out he'd disappear for an hour and then appear again minus a few hundred euro. During the course he'd often run down to place a few bets during lunch and then spend all day looking at his phone and planning the next bet

bockeys jollocks

The biggest joke is the feckin' animated gambling that you see in the bookies, and people actually put money on it!? The thick low brow morons that bet on that deserve to have their money taken.

mickydoomsux

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Gambling is a huge problem.

I know guys who who put the keys of the house on the table on one card, as their children and wife were asleep at home.

You can only drink so much, but you can risk losing far greater in less then 20 seconds on a bet.

Yeah, a few times during the boom I witnessed card/pool games that had thousands of Euro or vehicles and stuff riding on the outcome.

It was always people in the building trade but that probably had more to do with the rough kips I hung around in back then.

The_Kew_Tour

dxhound2005 wrote: »

That sounds extraordinary. If they were in a casino they couldn't wager with a set of keys. If it was a private card game how would the other party go about taking possession of the house?

And you know of multiple cases. I lead a sheltered life. Of course they stood to win the value of their house as well. How many won and how many were made homeless?

Sorry only coming back to this now.

I know of a man in my local town whose house was burnt down because of a bet where he did not share in his side of the bargain when he lost.

I have only ever seen one game where it was serious and I saw a guy walk away with another mans car.(this was around 2000-01).

One of my best friends brother is a addict and he has had things and not every day nearly till he had to flee the country.

You say you lead a sheltered life. You're better off.

I gamble myself, but I can stop in a instant if I have too thank God. Working in a bookies as summer job helped in that regard too.

anncoates

I've just always had a instructive feeling it's a mugs game, hence saving me millions of euros down the years.

That said - when observing my friends that like it - I think the fun is more the anticipation pursuit of winning rather than the bottom line so fair enough unless the figures are a problem.

amkin25

Gambling is fine and good fun in moderation its just not everyone can gamble in moderation .

The same applies for almost anything out there .

dxhound2005

The Grand National is next Saturday. In recent years it is just about the only gambling I do apart from the Lotto. I put on €100 in total on four or five horses. I use this site for guidance, later on they will give their list of five or six horses which they reckon will fill the top positions.

http://www.grandnational.org.uk/

Tin Foil Hat

dxhound2005 wrote: »

That sounds extraordinary. If they were in a casino they couldn't wager with a set of keys. If it was a private card game how would the other party go about taking possession of the house?

There was a Chinese restaurant lost in a card game in Dungarvan recently.

Stavros Murphy

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

There was a Chinese restaurant lost in a card game in Dungarvan recently.

I'm more surprised a chinese restaurant was allowed sit in on a game - must have been a huge table.

I don't gamble, due to mental impairment. I never know what the winner is going to be. Doesn't stop a load of my mates though. Breakfast is like an autopsy of last nights slaughter in paddy Powers every day.

tomwaterford

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

I'm more surprised a chinese restaurant was allowed sit in on a game - must have been a huge table.

I don't gamble, due to mental impairment. I never know what the winner is going to be. Doesn't stop a load of my mates though. Breakfast is like an autopsy of last nights slaughter in paddy Powers every day.

this is actually true (the restaurant in dungarvan)

there was a pub won in the village where I went to school...your man put half his farm down against it:eek:

Gmol

Betting is a mugs game the betting company has more information in general than the person placing the bet so you're at a disadvantage before you even start.

Hank Scorpio

people who say gambling is a mugs game just don't understand it. Poker for example is a game of skill and over a big sample size if you're a winning player you`ll always be up money. Most peoples problems is that they're weak minded and don't put in the effort to develop a winning strategy

Tin Foil Hat

tomwaterford wrote: »

this is actually true (the restaurant in dungarvan)

there was a pub won in the village where I went to school...your man put half his farm down against it:eek:

Mad, isn't it? I've never put more than twenty quid on a bet. Even then it was very, very rarely. Gambling, real gambling (i.e. wagering something on an event that is out of your control and that will make even a slight difference to your life), is for absolute muppets.

Stavros Murphy

Gmol wrote: »

Betting is a mugs game the betting company has more information in general than the person placing the bet so you're at a disadvantage before you even start.

There's eleven bookies in my local town. Eight take-aways and one hire shop. Probably a dozen pubs. Eleven Bookies. 11. Who do ye think is winning, day to day? If there was one Bookies, and it was struggling, there'd be a hint gambling pays. I always hear about the wins, the losses, not so much.

Poker is different, my wifes aunt is a poker player -a little old lady, and she wins big, she also owns a bookies shop. But for every 100 poker players, there's 99 mugs and one player. Being a player takes a sharp mind and a small ego. Most have it the other way around.

tomwaterford

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Mad, isn't it? I've never put more than twenty quid on a bet. Even then it was very, very rarely. Gambling, real gambling (i.e. wagering something on an event that is out of your control and that will make even a slight difference to your life), is for absolute muppets.

TBH I wouldn't even know how to put on a bet - don't really want to learn....though I do see people betting on the bonus number on the lotto at 33/1
and there over 40 numbers in the lotto...when you see people doing that/bookies handing out them odds...you don't have to be a maths genius to see who is going to come out on top:rolleyes:

Hank Scorpio

jaysus this lad musta got lucky over 320k hands, every hand he played he got lucky over several months. All luck, no skill

Stavros Murphy

nuxxx wrote: »

jaysus this lad musta got lucky over 320k hands, every hand he played he got lucky over several months. All luck, no skill

No - like I said, poker, and a lot of other card games are different - that's skill. Guessing which horse is feeling good out of twenty horses, doesn't trip, the jokey wasn't on the batter, the ground suited, that's luck. Usually. Or a fix, for the real players. Which again, is different. My wifes family are gamblers, but they're professional gamblers, and there's a difference.

Lou.m

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

No - like I said, poker, and a lot of other card games are different - that's skill. Guessing which horse is feeling good out of twenty horses, doesn't trip, the jokey wasn't on the batter, the ground suited, that's luck. Usually. Or a fix, for the real players. Which again, is different. My wifes family are gamblers, but they're professional gamblers, and there's a difference.

Poker is skill over time and variance.

I don't know much about poker beyond being a hobby player. I have played poker in my Dad's gold club, a little online, card rooms and pub poker. But I never played for more than fun. But there are many who are very skilled. My brother and his mates play and even amongst that level the better players win more consistently over time.

Betting involves knowledge I think rather than skill. My brother worked in the greyhound track during his undergrad years. Some punters won much more consistently than others. Understanding what odds mean and how to process that and working out value. And also knowing a little about the statistics and about that sport.

It is a fascinating topic though. A little beyond me though. Some people have that type of mind.